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AlterKot
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AdsMoFro
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
I'm predicting Fnatic is going to start strong while TL will look terrible, but they'll play each other for the decisive tiebreaker, which Fnatic will lose, ending in 4th and getting knocked out by KZ. RNG will stomp TL, and then we'll watch the slow, painful execution of Uzi as he magically carries his team to a single win but ultimately doesn't have what it takes to beat Peanut and friends. | ||
AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
So apparently there are people on reddit who think that Xiaohu is not a good midlaner, and Caps is much better. wat ![]() | ||
starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On May 10 2018 03:14 DarkCore wrote: So apparently there are people on reddit who think that Xiaohu is not a good midlaner, and Caps is much better. I'm just curious if anyone here actually agrees with that sentiment, because I sure as hell don't. Similar story with FW vs GMB, I didn't even bother watching the play in because I just sort of assumed FW was going to make it through, even if it's their weakest iteration yet (is it? I haven't watched the games). I'm predicting Fnatic is going to start strong while TL will look terrible, but they'll play each other for the decisive tiebreaker, which Fnatic will lose, ending in 4th and getting knocked out by KZ. RNG will stomp TL, and then we'll watch the slow, painful execution of Uzi as he magically carries his team to a single win but ultimately doesn't have what it takes to beat Peanut and friends. I'm just hoping for Flash Wolves to knock either Fnatic or TL out of the top 4, I even saw people saying Caps was better than BDD on reddit so... | ||
DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
I'm not joking, it's the highest voted comment on a front page post right now: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/8i5vqs/snowflower_kingzone_have_a_90_chance_to_win_msi/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=leagueoflegends I was just so surprised because the guy says he watched LPL, and I honestly thought Xiaohu was doing work this season, his roaming plays are fantastic, he pretty much never loses lane, and he is good at team fighting. I felt he outperformed Scout and Xiye this season too when you look at total performance, RNG was never going to win the league if they didn't have a worldclass mid laner who can contain EDG/iG/WE. RNG is not the Uzi one man show, he's the playmaker who finally has a team that doesn't let him down. | ||
cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Yorbon
Netherlands4272 Posts
On May 10 2018 03:56 DarkCore wrote: I'm not joking, it's the highest voted comment on a front page post right now: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/8i5vqs/snowflower_kingzone_have_a_90_chance_to_win_msi/?utm_content=comments&utm_medium=hot&utm_source=reddit&utm_name=leagueoflegends I was just so surprised because the guy says he watched LPL, and I honestly thought Xiaohu was doing work this season, his roaming plays are fantastic, he pretty much never loses lane, and he is good at team fighting. I felt he outperformed Scout and Xiye this season too when you look at total performance, RNG was never going to win the league if they didn't have a worldclass mid laner who can contain EDG/iG/WE. RNG is not the Uzi one man show, he's the playmaker who finally has a team that doesn't let him down. Saying caps, bdd and maple are on another level compared to xiaohu is just weird. Also the combination caps, bdd and maple strike me as very odd. I have to say that I didn't watch all the games, and what I saw was mostly during the start of the split. I'll just watch some more play-off games to be sure. | ||
dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On May 10 2018 05:04 cLutZ wrote: I feel like players around Uzi get denigrated much like players around Lebron or Westbrook do. Look, if someone demands tons of resources, and your team wins, the rest of the players gonna look like mere role players. Even Faker looks pedestrian on A-Sol or Lulu sometimes. I get your point but your examples are pretty bad imo Lebron's a ball handler but he doesn't 'demand' resources. He is forced to carry a lot, especially this playoffs. Westbrook kinda, but Melo just sucks balls. Faker's lulu has always been at worst, top 2 lulu in the world and as a lulu main back then I don't ever recall thinking his lulu looked pedestrian. Pretty much learned something new from him every time. I think in the case of Uzi, his reputation is just much more well known and well regarded compared to his counterparts and redditors dont exactly watch LPL so they of course will just attribute most of the success to Uzi without really watching the games. Not to mention all the ADC hype lately around MSI and a bunch of interviews coming out talking about how good Uzi is. On caps/fnatic, I really feel like reddit is overrating them more than they did other LCS teams. TL's hype doesn't seem to be anywhere close. | ||
chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On May 10 2018 07:52 dsyxelic wrote: I get your point but your examples are pretty bad imo Lebron's a ball handler but he doesn't 'demand' resources. He is forced to carry a lot, especially this playoffs. Westbrook kinda, but Melo just sucks balls. Faker's lulu has always been at worst, top 2 lulu in the world and as a lulu main back then I don't ever recall thinking his lulu looked pedestrian. Pretty much learned something new from him every time. I think in the case of Uzi, his reputation is just much more well known and well regarded compared to his counterparts and redditors dont exactly watch LPL so they of course will just attribute most of the success to Uzi without really watching the games. Not to mention all the ADC hype lately around MSI and a bunch of interviews coming out talking about how good Uzi is. On caps/fnatic, I really feel like reddit is overrating them more than they did other LCS teams. TL's hype doesn't seem to be anywhere close. I think that's because TL has the least cool story lines of any team coming. Will Kingzone perfect run the tournament, redeeming them for their embarrassing lose at worlds? How far can Uzi bring RNG? Can Evos be the next GAM? Can neutered Flash Wolves make the same dent in the tournament the famous line up did? How well will the kings of Europe fair? TL is just sort of there. No one on the team is the best in their role at the tournament, no one is a rookie, we've seen everyone here on the world stage before. I think everyone just accepts TL is going to get 3rd/4th in the groups and lose to RNG/KZ in brackets. | ||
dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On May 10 2018 08:16 chipmonklord17 wrote: I think that's because TL has the least cool story lines of any team coming. Will Kingzone perfect run the tournament, redeeming them for their embarrassing lose at worlds? How far can Uzi bring RNG? Can Evos be the next GAM? Can neutered Flash Wolves make the same dent in the tournament the famous line up did? How well will the kings of Europe fair? TL is just sort of there. No one on the team is the best in their role at the tournament, no one is a rookie, we've seen everyone here on the world stage before. I think everyone just accepts TL is going to get 3rd/4th in the groups and lose to RNG/KZ in brackets. No, I get why TL doesn't get much hype. I just think its funny how Fnatic gets a disproportionate amount of hype for simply being 'best of EU' when their only challenge is the former shell of G2. I just don't see what is there to be so excited over in regards to Fnatic and its players (relative to their hype). | ||
chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On May 10 2018 10:03 dsyxelic wrote: No, I get why TL doesn't get much hype. I just think its funny how Fnatic gets a disproportionate amount of hype for simply being 'best of EU' when their only challenge is the former shell of G2. I just don't see what is there to be so excited over in regards to Fnatic and its players (relative to their hype). its potentially Bwipo's debut on an international stage after winning the finals. There's plenty of story lines to use to hype up Fnatic. Yes, as someone who watched the league I agree that their biggest challenge was a gimped G2, but we're talking about your average redditor here EDIT: You know you might just be on to something, I'm watching a vod of hotline league and a caller just said Fnatic will "lose 1 game to KZ in groups then take it to 5 games in the finals" EDIT: It isn't Fnatic's first MSI, oops | ||
cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 10 2018 07:52 dsyxelic wrote: I get your point but your examples are pretty bad imo Lebron's a ball handler but he doesn't 'demand' resources. He is forced to carry a lot, especially this playoffs. Westbrook kinda, but Melo just sucks balls. Faker's lulu has always been at worst, top 2 lulu in the world and as a lulu main back then I don't ever recall thinking his lulu looked pedestrian. Pretty much learned something new from him every time. I think in the case of Uzi, his reputation is just much more well known and well regarded compared to his counterparts and redditors dont exactly watch LPL so they of course will just attribute most of the success to Uzi without really watching the games. Not to mention all the ADC hype lately around MSI and a bunch of interviews coming out talking about how good Uzi is. On caps/fnatic, I really feel like reddit is overrating them more than they did other LCS teams. TL's hype doesn't seem to be anywhere close. #1. If you don't think the media/average fan forgets how good his teammates are, just look at what they said about Bosh, or say about Love now. Same with PG3 this year or Dipo last year with WB. They become an offense unto themselves. #2. I Agree with your Faker Lulu comments, but how many times did you see the #1 Reddit thread say he needs to be on carries more? Its the clowns vs people who actually watch games. Same as always | ||
dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On May 10 2018 10:10 chipmonklord17 wrote: Its Fnatic's first MSI, its potentially Bwipo's debut on an international stage after winning the finals. There's plenty of story lines to use to hype up Fnatic. Yes, as someone who watched the league I agree that their biggest challenge was a gimped G2, but we're talking about your average redditor here EDIT: You know you might just be on to something, I'm watching a vod of hotline league and a caller just said Fnatic will "lose 1 game to KZ in groups then take it to 5 games in the finals" It's also TL's first MSI and Bwipo is pretty uninteresting since there isn't much that makes him unique. It just proved how bad the rest of EU are compared to Fnatic right now that they can win so easily without one of their most valuable players. Like I could also easily make similar story lines with TL, it's just that less people are really caring to. Whereas for Fnatic it seems they are willing to just make whatever up. On May 10 2018 10:50 cLutZ wrote: #1. If you don't think the media/average fan forgets how good his teammates are, just look at what they said about Bosh, or say about Love now. Same with PG3 this year or Dipo last year with WB. They become an offense unto themselves. #2. I Agree with your Faker Lulu comments, but how many times did you see the #1 Reddit thread say he needs to be on carries more? Its the clowns vs people who actually watch games. Same as always I'm not really disagreeing that the random viewer has shit opinions but that these guys you listed as examples demands as much resources as it sounds like. | ||
cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On May 10 2018 13:06 dsyxelic wrote: It's also TL's first MSI and Bwipo is pretty uninteresting since there isn't much that makes him unique. It just proved how bad the rest of EU are compared to Fnatic right now that they can win so easily without one of their most valuable players. Like I could also easily make similar story lines with TL, it's just that less people are really caring to. Whereas for Fnatic it seems they are willing to just make whatever up. I'm not really disagreeing that the random viewer has shit opinions but that these guys you listed as examples demands as much resources as it sounds like. By resources, in the NBA context, I would say, "needs to have the ball in his hands, and doesn't fit into a standard offensive system/refuses to play in one." | ||
General_Winter
United States719 Posts
Some highlights were the graves play in the later games and the Camille / Trundle combos in game 1. I hadn’t seen that before but it was some crazy 2 man ganks where someone is in the middle of lane looking safe then all of a sudden camille is hook shooting off a pillar that wasn’t there a second ago. Brutal! | ||
chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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eagle
United States693 Posts
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starkiller123
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