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eagle
Profile Joined April 2009
United States693 Posts
May 20 2018 11:12 GMT
#301
chinese ezreal>korean cait
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 20 2018 11:48 GMT
#302
Could Uzi be banned out? RNG seem to mostly pick comps around protecting him as the main (sometimes sole) damage-dealer.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
May 20 2018 12:17 GMT
#303
On May 20 2018 20:48 Alaric wrote:
Could Uzi be banned out? RNG seem to mostly pick comps around protecting him as the main (sometimes sole) damage-dealer.


I wouldn't think so. I think it's been shown before that it isn't worth it to try to ban out ADCs that are world tier on them.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9195 Posts
May 20 2018 12:24 GMT
#304
On May 20 2018 20:48 Alaric wrote:
Could Uzi be banned out? RNG seem to mostly pick comps around protecting him as the main (sometimes sole) damage-dealer.


How? KZ could ban like Kaisa, Ezreal and Cait and then Uzi gets to first pick Xayah, Varus or Kog.
You're now breathing manually
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 20 2018 12:33 GMT
#305
Dirty Sion mid pickers. Cant stand that.
Off-season = best season
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 12:53:01
May 20 2018 12:40 GMT
#306
I guess it's a by-product of that AD carry meta too (but they were bitching again not like 1 month ago against tanks).

KZ keep failing to finish off people or running into outnumbered fights through corridor, that's not exactly an exciting match.

That fight in the top river bush with the Tahm ult away from the flank, then splitting up twice against different targets, and having to flash not to get flanked themselves thanks to their great positioning...
This match is a joke.

And this Ezreal build is a joke too. I get that it's expensive but since they're allowed to free farm anyway, it doesn't matter and it's dumb how something so gold-inefficient on paper with the passives not stacking is still so strong.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
May 20 2018 12:52 GMT
#307
On May 20 2018 21:40 Alaric wrote:
KZ keep failing to finish off people or running into outnumbered fights through corridor, that's not exactly an exciting match.

Continuation of group stage performance, so I feel it is appropriate.
Off-season = best season
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
May 20 2018 12:56 GMT
#308
--- Nuked ---
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 13:20:46
May 20 2018 13:14 GMT
#309
So are KZ tilted and desperate or resigned and clowning?

Uh they even picked Olaf with a 0-cc 0-initiation comp. Def tilted off the face of the earth.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
May 20 2018 13:28 GMT
#310
On May 20 2018 22:14 Alaric wrote:
Uh they even picked Olaf with a 0-cc 0-initiation comp.


Rakan?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 13:34:48
May 20 2018 13:33 GMT
#311
So basically he needs flash up and for them to clump? Illaoi is terrible at diving too.
They've got no answer to Ornn ult too, either as initiation or in reaction to a Rakan initiation.

Not that it matters, they're gonna get shat on because they have absolutely 0 vision control. Khan's playing like your stereotypical splitpushing soloq top laner, under the enemy tower with 0 wards and getting collapsed on for free.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
May 20 2018 13:42 GMT
#312
On May 20 2018 22:33 Alaric wrote:
So basically he needs flash up and for them to clump?


I'm not sure what's your point here. Is there any champion in the game that can initiate on 5 champions if they don't clump? If you keep Olaf and Illaoi, what other champions would you have picked to get better iniation here?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 13:59:45
May 20 2018 13:47 GMT
#313
Well... I'm not quite up to snuff on jungle meta right now, but there's got to be tanky junglers that can initiative and do'nt give up all early pressure aside from Skarner right now? Especially with Kaisa needing to be locked down (or Malz blown up before he ults I guess but his passive makes that hard).
It's more "why pick Olaf?!" than "why not pick X?"

Also Illaoi needs set-up. She needs a nest of tentacles ready (and to get her ult off before she's cc'd so she can get damage in/heal a bit), and since she's not mobile at all that means if she starts running away when collapsed on while split-pushing, she can't really fight.
She can't initiate nor follow a diver for the same reasons (well she can follow and flash ult in but without a flank or follow-up cc to prevent them from scattering/retreating out of the zone you end up 4v5 in terms of effectiveness).

She's more of a protector in a siege comp since you force them to dive you (and your nest) and you want to spend time in a single space (near the tower you're sieging) to set up and use E to "poke" people.

Here it worked... because RNG rushed them, which was because of the baron attempt. That's not how it should go typically at all.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
May 20 2018 13:51 GMT
#314
Well they clumped.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 20 2018 13:55 GMT
#315
See my edit, when your opponents fuck up it works but if your comp relies on them fucking up just to enable you, that's not the greatest premise.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NpG)Explosive
Profile Joined January 2003
France994 Posts
May 20 2018 13:58 GMT
#316
I agree that it only works if RNG fucks up. With Xayah, Vel Koz and Illaoi it looks more like a low elo press R comp than a MSI final comp.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4768 Posts
May 20 2018 14:02 GMT
#317
Xayah excels when kiting imo. And RNG picked a very dive heavy comp. So the comp KZ picked is kind of a perfect answer. It's very difficult to siege and break the base, sure, but you won't lose 5v5s really. If you don't suppress the Illaoi with Malz or Skarner, he gets free time. Then you have one more supress for Rakan I guess? But then there's an Olaf running to your Kai'sa (1v3 damaging trying to kill him off while the 2 supressers cc'd themselves) and you get free piercing feathers and Vel'koz aoe going through your back and frontline.
It's pretty nice imo, but it's a very specific answer to what RNG have drafted.
Taxes are for Terrans
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 20 2018 14:08 GMT
#318
KZ are terrible.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-05-20 14:13:27
May 20 2018 14:08 GMT
#319
That Kaisa


Uzi's a beast
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
May 20 2018 14:09 GMT
#320
Well, that escalated quickly. GG RNG! GG Uzi!
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