EPTSamsung win the 2017 World Championship! - Page 57
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Join the LiquidLegends 2017 Worlds Pick'em Group! Ban bets!! Ban bets will continue for the duration of Worlds. You can place bet at any phase of Worlds; on individual games, series, whatever your heart desires. Bans will be enacted the day after Worlds ends, to ensure everyone can still post on LL while Worlds is ongoing. glhf~ - Winners in bold - better, better's win condition, bettee [ban duration for loser] - Yorbon, EDG fails to make it out of groups, vs DarkCore [1 week] - Sleight, Fnatic doesn't make it out of groups, vs AlterKot [2:1 weeks] - Apex, Gigabyte getting out of groups as a 1st place seed + TSM will finish 1st in their groups + Samsung will fail to qualify from their group + C9 will get out of their groups, vs JimmiC [1 week] - geript, Korean teams will win a combined 17 or more games in Groups, vs Gahlo [1 month] - geript, NA teams will win a combined 7 or less games in Groups, vs Torchise [1 month] - zer0das, SKT doesn't win Worlds, vs no one [1 year] - Zato-1, NA teams combined wins will be greater than or equal to EU teams combined wins, vs Yorbon [1 month] | ||
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Sent.
Poland9198 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On October 15 2017 05:57 Sent. wrote: Does the emergance of support MF count as meta change? Short answer: yes. Long answer (to explain further upon your point about support MF from last year) : Leading into this years Worlds everyone knew that Ardent Sensor was super OP and that if you don't pick support champs that can build it, you're going to lose or be VERY far behind in teamfights in the mid/late game. So what every team did was pick an Ardent Sensor champion and paired it with an ADC that has a weak early game but strong mid/late game. Right now, those ADCs are Trist, Kog'Maw, the on-hit Varus build, and Xayah. Kalista is permaban because she can abuse these early game ADCs and supports thanks to her spear stacking, AND scales just as well as the above ADCs. The other three roles either had continued scaling due to being super tanks like Chogath, Maokai, and Sejuani, and strong 1-2 item power spikes with solid scaling into mid/late game like Cassio, Ryze, and Syndra. Corki also benefits from the Ardent Sensor, but needs both Triforce and IE to fully come online, which is just a bit too slow in some cases. And by in large, you saw all those champions in week 1. The thing is that for week 2, other teams were able to identify these super slow scalers and weak early games from the week 1 team compositions and exploit it with proactive plays and champions like J4, Rumble, and Jayce, who have strong early games and fall off more in mid/late game. Trundle also re-emerged as a split pusher, tank shredding champion to combat the Cho and Maokai in top lane. That's why the Caitlyn pick was so smart and so brutal in the week 2 WE vs. TSM game. It's an ADC who people thought had been nerfed out of the meta, but her large AA range and strong lane presence, when combined with Ardent Sensor means that with just a BF Sword she hits for a stupid amount of damage in the 8-12 minute mark, even if her attack speed is low. This let WE push down towers fast, get turret gold + ward up TSM's jungle, and suffocate them with item advantage and vision advantage. | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On October 15 2017 05:50 Scip wrote: Then why am I still laughing at all the TSMtards crying their salty tears you just didnt laugh hard enough before | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On October 15 2017 07:13 Ansibled wrote: TSM losing will continue to be funny for as long as TSM fans believe they're actually going to win. maybe its because in america there are too many people who have similar delusions about various things  i used to laughnow im sad boy i think the funnier thing is NA vs EU though like it's been back and forth every single year with one region taking turns massively failing like you think one region is shit but then the roles reverse every time | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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GrandInquisitor
New York City13113 Posts
On October 15 2017 05:57 Sent. wrote: Does the emergance of support MF count as meta change? Yes. It was a theoretical novelty, to borrow chess lingo, that ROX prepared specifically for their SKT semifinal. I'm excited to see what TNs the Korean teams have saved up for this year, because you sure as shit know that SKT ain't busting out their secret strats against ahq. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
On October 15 2017 09:42 NeoIllusions wrote: Here's to hoping no KR region killing in quarters. I thought it would have been funnier to have TSM and the 3 Koreans on the same side of the bracket for maximum lols. | ||
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AdsMoFro
Japan4761 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35152 Posts
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synapse
China13814 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
SKT goes 0-3 EDG goes 3-0 C9 goes 1-2 and AHQ goes 2-1 everyone would be 3-3 | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
LOL. | ||
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dsyxelic
United States1417 Posts
On October 15 2017 14:01 chipmonklord17 wrote: What would they do if everyone goes 3-3? I know it won't happen but if SKT goes 0-3 EDG goes 3-0 C9 goes 1-2 and AHQ goes 2-1 everyone would be 3-3 I assume it'd be similar to group B where they have a mini 'gauntlet' where the fastest game time win sits at the top and the slowest has to work their way up from the bottom also skt losing to a taiwanese team in group stages is pretty much tradition at this point | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
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