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Join the LiquidLegends 2017 Worlds Pick'em Group! Ban bets!! Ban bets will continue for the duration of Worlds. You can place bet at any phase of Worlds; on individual games, series, whatever your heart desires. Bans will be enacted the day after Worlds ends, to ensure everyone can still post on LL while Worlds is ongoing. glhf~ - Winners in bold - better, better's win condition, bettee [ban duration for loser] - Yorbon, EDG fails to make it out of groups, vs DarkCore [1 week] - Sleight, Fnatic doesn't make it out of groups, vs AlterKot [2:1 weeks] - Apex, Gigabyte getting out of groups as a 1st place seed + TSM will finish 1st in their groups + Samsung will fail to qualify from their group + C9 will get out of their groups, vs JimmiC [1 week] - geript, Korean teams will win a combined 17 or more games in Groups, vs Gahlo [1 month] - geript, NA teams will win a combined 7 or less games in Groups, vs Torchise [1 month] - zer0das, SKT doesn't win Worlds, vs no one [1 year] - Zato-1, NA teams combined wins will be greater than or equal to EU teams combined wins, vs Yorbon [1 month] | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Kinie
United States3106 Posts
On October 14 2017 20:09 nafta wrote: Hauntzer is not a problem. He played perfectly fine. At this point they need a jungler and they need to not make him worse the longer he plays on this team. Next step is getting a new ad. First ROX now LZ are 2 teams without sponsors. This obsession of always blaming support staff in the west is stupid. Sponsors help pay for support staff and give surplus salery to the players, but both ROX and LZ had enough of a support staff in their draft coach and team coach to shape their raw talent into a semi-cohesive, successful form. And that's because Koreans have been doing eSports related stuff on a professional level longer than any other region, so there is precident, lessons, and ideas they can draw upon to teach and mild these players from raw talent into superstars. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 14 2017 20:18 Ansibled wrote: I'm looking forward to the next rebuild around Bjergsen and TSM being the exact same team with an internationally invisible mid laner Huhi still the best NA midlaner internationally. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On October 14 2017 20:18 Kinie wrote: Sponsors help pay for support staff and give surplus salery to the players, but both ROX and LZ had enough of a support staff in their draft coach and team coach to shape their raw talent into a semi-cohesive, successful form. And that's because Koreans have been doing eSports related stuff on a professional level longer than any other region, so there is precident, lessons, and ideas they can draw upon to teach and mild these players from raw talent into superstars. NA has more money and better infrastructure than EU. If you lack "raw talent" everything else doesn't matter. You can't look at these games and tell me that svenskeren wasn't basically inting. Coaching staff can't control your mouse in the game. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On October 14 2017 20:23 Numy wrote: Huhi still the best NA midlaner internationally. i read that as Huni first and was rather confused | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On October 14 2017 20:09 nafta wrote: Hauntzer is not a problem. He played perfectly fine. At this point they need a jungler and they need to not make him worse the longer he plays on this team. Next step is getting a new ad. First ROX now LZ are 2 teams without sponsors. This obsession of always blaming support staff in the west is stupid. I'm so fucking hoping for TSM Dardoch. It would be the perfect saltmine to come from this year. If the guy who is in charge of p/b makes terrible p/b mistakes which are obviously bad, then he needs to go. The reason why the west can keep blaming support staff, is that the coaches keep on learning the wrong lessons. There are other issues too. Like no players knowing how to think about the game; they know what responses to make, but don't really understand the exact reasoning. If you can't understand why things work, how can you give correct feedback? If C9 doesn't win a game in week 2, I will be fucking ecstatic. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On October 14 2017 20:26 geript wrote: I'm so fucking hoping for TSM Dardoch. It would be the perfect saltmine to come from this year. If the guy who is in charge of p/b makes terrible p/b mistakes which are obviously bad, then he needs to go. The reason why the west can keep blaming support staff, is that the coaches keep on learning the wrong lessons. There are other issues too. Like no players knowing how to think about the game; they know what responses to make, but don't really understand the exact reasoning. If you can't understand why things work, how can you give correct feedback? If C9 doesn't win a game in week 2, I will be fucking ecstatic. Said it before, if I was TSM I would look into Maxlore. I am not hoping it happens though from a european perspective. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
Like I had people on reddit telling me that Misfits is the worst team at worlds and would not have made it through play-ins. Alright then. All around this worlds has been great so far with how unpredictable results were, with the exception of the Koreans. Although those seemed beatable a few times as well. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On October 14 2017 20:43 Redox wrote: Said it before, if I was TSM I would look into Maxlore. I am not hoping it happens though from a european perspective. Yah, he's probably a decent fit. I just want Dardoch on TSM so I can write him off for good and lick the salt from TSM fans as the team implodes or savor in the knowledge that I knew that TSM was the only team he had a chance of succeeding on. It's going to sound funny, but I think Bjerg needs to go too if they can't fix him. It's looked like he's lost the will to play. He's likely the most skilled mid they'll ever have but I don't think he's the mid they need. Maybe DL too. | ||
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Sleight
2471 Posts
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
From what I've seen, I would imagine that all the first seeds will be the ones to make it into the semi finals, unless SSG upsets someone. WE, SKT, LZ and RNG look quite a bit ahead of everyone else, especially the latter two (WE showed up big today though, so if they play like that they will be a strong contender).. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On October 14 2017 20:58 DarkCore wrote: Only SSG seemed genuinely beatable, because they uh, lost games. LZ and SKT were close to losing like once each, but they stalled and were able to punish mistakes. I don't expect KR to drop entire series now in the playoffs. From what I've seen, I would imagine that all the first seeds will be the ones to make it into the semi finals, unless SSG upsets someone. WE, SKT, LZ and RNG look quite a bit ahead of everyone else, especially the latter two (WE showed up big today though, so if they play like that they will be a strong contender).. That is the thing though the Chinese teams might actually have a shot which would be awesome for the home crowd and overall excitement. And LZ is hard to judge anyway because their group was probably the weakest. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On October 14 2017 20:58 DarkCore wrote: Only SSG seemed genuinely beatable, because they uh, lost games. LZ and SKT were close to losing like once each, but they stalled and were able to punish mistakes. I don't expect KR to drop entire series now in the playoffs. From what I've seen, I would imagine that all the first seeds will be the ones to make it into the semi finals, unless SSG upsets someone. WE, SKT, LZ and RNG look quite a bit ahead of everyone else, especially the latter two (WE showed up big today though, so if they play like that they will be a strong contender).. Honestly SKT and LZ both looked beatable. Problem is this always happens in groups and then they turn it on in playoffs. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On October 14 2017 20:43 Redox wrote: Said it before, if I was TSM I would look into Maxlore. I am not hoping it happens though from a european perspective. Why would you want Maxlore to suffer the fate of TSM junglers? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On October 14 2017 20:23 Numy wrote: Huhi still the best NA midlaner internationally. Yeah I value Huhi a lot too. If only CLG could get a jungler :[ | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
wait he ulted shen | ||
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Sent.
Poland9198 Posts
Laughed when casters called Bjergsen NA Clearlove This is why I don't banbet + Show Spoiler + Group of Death /s 1. TSM 2. WE 3. FW 4. Misfits Taipeichingong's Revenge. gg ez TSM should get to the semis, can't imagine them losing to any second place team other than RNG and mayyybe EDG if that team gets its shit together I do not consider TSM performances good or very bad, just think FW, WE and MSF are trash. Yes, Sven is doing his best to drag his team down to their level but overall they're still much better. As long as Doublelift won't mentally crumble after today's loss, TSM should be first. Predictions for tomorrow Misfits vs Flash Wolves - why are you such a disappointment FW? Team World Elite vs Team SoloMid - Doubletilt will carry Chyna Flash Wolves vs Team World Elite Team SoloMid vs Misfits - ugly 50 minute win Team SoloMid vs Flash Wolves - ugly 40 minute win Misfits vs Team World Elite - WE will try too hard and fail Tiebreakers: TSM and WE advance And holy shit that Yasuo pick, I'm still triggered | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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