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Join the LiquidLegends 2017 Worlds Pick'em Group!

Ban bets!!
Ban bets will continue for the duration of Worlds. You can place bet at any phase of Worlds; on individual games, series, whatever your heart desires.
Bans will be enacted the day after Worlds ends, to ensure everyone can still post on LL while Worlds is ongoing. glhf~

- Winners in bold
- better, better's win condition, bettee [ban duration for loser]
- Yorbon, EDG fails to make it out of groups, vs DarkCore [1 week]
- Sleight, Fnatic doesn't make it out of groups, vs AlterKot [2:1 weeks]
- Apex, Gigabyte getting out of groups as a 1st place seed + TSM will finish 1st in their groups + Samsung will fail to qualify from their group + C9 will get out of their groups, vs JimmiC [1 week]
- geript, Korean teams will win a combined 17 or more games in Groups, vs Gahlo [1 month]
- geript, NA teams will win a combined 7 or less games in Groups, vs Torchise [1 month]
- zer0das, SKT doesn't win Worlds, vs no one [1 year]
- Zato-1, NA teams combined wins will be greater than or equal to EU teams combined wins, vs Yorbon [1 month]
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-15 05:19:56
October 15 2017 05:14 GMT
#1141
All of worlds should be Gauntlet style, C9 is unstoppable in gauntlets.

NA.... Please stop picking Ryze. QQ.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
October 15 2017 05:20 GMT
#1142
Hmmmm, I think Cass would've been a better pick here. Also think EDG's teamcomp just looks a lot stronger
darkness overpowering
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-15 05:40:36
October 15 2017 05:40 GMT
#1143
Cataclysmic Entrance.....ok Papa I like that..... nice.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
October 15 2017 05:43 GMT
#1144
The issue here is more that C9 didn't ban or pick Galio. The Graves isn't going to help too much either now that the team is so far behind, but Galio lets Scout be ham like this.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-15 05:46:20
October 15 2017 05:45 GMT
#1145
I just don't like the Ryze at all. If Jungle can't hard snowball it it just leads to giving up mid priority 100%.

I just don't see the appeal.

Just like... Pick Taliyah instead she does all the same shit but has waveclear and tons of pressure. Just.. ugh.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-15 05:57:07
October 15 2017 05:55 GMT
#1146
Yeah, this game was over the moment that EDG got the super dunk composition with the Galio to keep the J4 alive.

But I don't think C9 will overlook this mistake again, so hopefully they can adjust in time for their games vs. SKT and AHQ. C9 probably needs to beat AHQ and hope that EDG loses a game to get them out of groups.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
October 15 2017 05:55 GMT
#1147
Can't believe they got the fight at top inhib and then spaghettied it back with a terrible baron fight.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-15 06:01:27
October 15 2017 06:01 GMT
#1148
Analyst desk losing their freaking minds over the weird pick/ban choices from C9, as Froskiren is literally going, "I saw this every day in LPL, I saw this coming the moment the J4 got picked."
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 15 2017 06:04 GMT
#1149
Crumz is 100% correct, I don't see the argument otherwise except to not make the panel all be on the same page.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
October 15 2017 06:07 GMT
#1150
On October 15 2017 15:01 Kinie wrote:
Analyst desk losing their freaking minds over the weird pick/ban choices from C9, as Froskiren is literally going, "I saw this every day in LPL, I saw this coming the moment the J4 got picked."


Is this a C9 analyst loss then? I am sure they have folks that watch other leagues to see certain trends.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-15 06:10:21
October 15 2017 06:09 GMT
#1151
On October 15 2017 15:07 lilwisper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 15:01 Kinie wrote:
Analyst desk losing their freaking minds over the weird pick/ban choices from C9, as Froskiren is literally going, "I saw this every day in LPL, I saw this coming the moment the J4 got picked."


Is this a C9 analyst loss then? I am sure they have folks that watch other leagues to see certain trends.


Weren't GAM doing shit like this at MSI or was it just the Galio/Zed shenanigans? Pretty sure this Galio + X synergistic thing has been going on for months everywhere. I'd just consider it a disrespect or a huge oversight
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
October 15 2017 06:15 GMT
#1152
On October 15 2017 15:07 lilwisper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 15:01 Kinie wrote:
Analyst desk losing their freaking minds over the weird pick/ban choices from C9, as Froskiren is literally going, "I saw this every day in LPL, I saw this coming the moment the J4 got picked."


Is this a C9 analyst loss then? I am sure they have folks that watch other leagues to see certain trends.


I think it was more that C9 was worried about a more aggressive early/mid game and wanted to secure the lane for their top laner, which is why they banned Rumble in the first phase.

It was only after that EDG first picked the J4 that they realized they fucked up, and I think they were hoping that the Janna would be enough of a disengage vs. the J4 + Galio combo.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
October 15 2017 06:17 GMT
#1153
On October 15 2017 15:09 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 15:07 lilwisper wrote:
On October 15 2017 15:01 Kinie wrote:
Analyst desk losing their freaking minds over the weird pick/ban choices from C9, as Froskiren is literally going, "I saw this every day in LPL, I saw this coming the moment the J4 got picked."


Is this a C9 analyst loss then? I am sure they have folks that watch other leagues to see certain trends.


Weren't GAM doing shit like this at MSI or was it just the Galio/Zed shenanigans? Pretty sure this Galio + X synergistic thing has been going on for months everywhere. I'd just consider it a disrespect or a huge oversight

Hell, TSM was doing it all split.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
October 15 2017 06:25 GMT
#1154
On October 15 2017 15:15 Kinie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 15:07 lilwisper wrote:
On October 15 2017 15:01 Kinie wrote:
Analyst desk losing their freaking minds over the weird pick/ban choices from C9, as Froskiren is literally going, "I saw this every day in LPL, I saw this coming the moment the J4 got picked."


Is this a C9 analyst loss then? I am sure they have folks that watch other leagues to see certain trends.


I think it was more that C9 was worried about a more aggressive early/mid game and wanted to secure the lane for their top laner, which is why they banned Rumble in the first phase.

It was only after that EDG first picked the J4 that they realized they fucked up, and I think they were hoping that the Janna would be enough of a disengage vs. the J4 + Galio combo.


But wouldn't Galio still be a priority to ban over Rumble even then? He's the one that can flex and I am sure there are tons of tops that can beat a Rumble and still be fairly tanky right?
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-15 06:37:14
October 15 2017 06:30 GMT
#1155
Clearlove with the Levi special

Holy fuck iBoy stop, they're already dead
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-15 06:47:03
October 15 2017 06:46 GMT
#1156
On October 04 2017 10:50 Skitter wrote:
Permaban bet China finishes groups with above 60% winrate


Conditions fulfilled, LPL currently has at the least 12 wins out of potential 18 wins.
xd
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
October 15 2017 06:53 GMT
#1157
iBoy confirms the start of the downloading to beat SKT. I can't wait.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
October 15 2017 06:57 GMT
#1158
On October 15 2017 15:25 lilwisper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2017 15:15 Kinie wrote:
On October 15 2017 15:07 lilwisper wrote:
On October 15 2017 15:01 Kinie wrote:
Analyst desk losing their freaking minds over the weird pick/ban choices from C9, as Froskiren is literally going, "I saw this every day in LPL, I saw this coming the moment the J4 got picked."


Is this a C9 analyst loss then? I am sure they have folks that watch other leagues to see certain trends.


I think it was more that C9 was worried about a more aggressive early/mid game and wanted to secure the lane for their top laner, which is why they banned Rumble in the first phase.

It was only after that EDG first picked the J4 that they realized they fucked up, and I think they were hoping that the Janna would be enough of a disengage vs. the J4 + Galio combo.


But wouldn't Galio still be a priority to ban over Rumble even then? He's the one that can flex and I am sure there are tons of tops that can beat a Rumble and still be fairly tanky right?


Not in current meta, that's the problem. Maokai and Chogath will eventually lose to a Rumble in a sustained trade. Shen might eventually, but he'll be building for teamfight and not against the lane opponent outside of something like a Spirit Visage and eventually Gargoyle's Stoneplate. Gnar might be able to as well, but then he's so dependent upon both him stopping the Rumble and then managing their rage bar.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
October 15 2017 06:58 GMT
#1159
iBoy is hilarious.

"As long as we don't pick Lucian, we'll win." Scout pls.
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
October 15 2017 07:01 GMT
#1160
Imagine if SKT chokes and don't get out of groups...
Que Sera Sera
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