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chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 14 2017 08:05 GMT
#981
Rakan hard carries their last game
Rakan is left up and you're on blue side
????
First pick Lulu


What the actual fuck
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
October 14 2017 08:07 GMT
#982
Why not pick up the Janna either? Rakan or Janna first pick is more understandable than the first pick Lulu. This obsession TSM has with Lulu is probably going to lose them Worlds.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 14 2017 08:07 GMT
#983
I don't actually understand dude.

Why the Lulu.... Pick that sexy Rakan wtf. Bio Rakan is so dirty.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 14 2017 08:08 GMT
#984
I'm still trying to process which I find stupider, not first picking Rakan as TSM or not taking it as FW. Its like they both hate winning
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-14 08:09:27
October 14 2017 08:09 GMT
#985
The ONLY reason I can think of them not picking Janna is because they never got to play it in scrims because they always banned it or had it banned against them, so Biofrost doesn't have as much comfort on it than others.

But if that's the case, why not get the Rakan for Biofrost? Dude's proven that he can carry on it.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
October 14 2017 08:27 GMT
#986
Even if TSM wins this game, they need to clean up their early game to even have a hope of making it past quarters.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 14 2017 08:27 GMT
#987
The TSM early game. Jesus.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
October 14 2017 08:29 GMT
#988
Well late game only matters if you make it there. 7k down now.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
October 14 2017 08:29 GMT
#989
On October 14 2017 17:27 iCanada wrote:
The TSM early game. Jesus.

yeah they've gotten dumpstered 3 games in a row now early game.

This game they only had one bad early matchup too, the rest was just bad macro play.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
October 14 2017 08:31 GMT
#990
This is yet another series where I feel like TSM's pick/ban is losing them this early game as bad as they are right now.

Seriously, 30% win rate Lulu vs. 75% win rate Janna... First pick Lulu!?

Someone go look, have TSM's losses so far had a Lulu on the team in this year's Worlds?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 14 2017 08:32 GMT
#991
If they get a tiebreaker they should honestly think about picking Lee for Sven, he just provides 0 pressure on the meta picks
Carrilord has arrived.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
October 14 2017 08:32 GMT
#992
They don't have the Rakan to make the big comeback plays, they don't have the Janna for the 75% winrate, they're literally losing pickban on the first pick. This is ridiculous.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 14 2017 08:35 GMT
#993
Sven so outclassed by Karsa.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
October 14 2017 08:36 GMT
#994
Drafting in 2017
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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-14 08:37:09
October 14 2017 08:36 GMT
#995
No, this game was lost on literal first pick because of the Lulu obsession TSM has right now.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-14 08:39:59
October 14 2017 08:37 GMT
#996
Can we get NA some coaches that can draft coherently?

I guess we getting G2 next year...

On October 14 2017 17:36 Kinie wrote:
No, this game was lost on literal first pick because of the Lulu obsession TSM has right now.


I mean, if Sven isn't 30 seconds slow to everything its probably not an issue. I don't get what Sven is doing wrong, but he is just slow and takes a ton of damage in the jungle.

Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-14 08:38:54
October 14 2017 08:38 GMT
#997
It's not even like Reapered is a bad coach. This feels like some MAJOR draft issue that we're not fully aware of that TSM have, but literally everyone else can recognize and exploit.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35153 Posts
October 14 2017 08:38 GMT
#998
Year after year Parth has control of drafts and I have yet to see him put more than 2 or 3 together outside of NA at a time.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
October 14 2017 08:41 GMT
#999
I think this is the worst early game I've seen in a while from a team that's expected to at least be halfway decent.

It's a literal dumpster fire of an early game. If I'm Misfits, I'm happy going into a tiebreaker with TSM since this early game is so exploitable.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 14 2017 08:42 GMT
#1000
Exploitable is perhaps a conservative word.

Their early game is free as hell. Just walk right in and have whatever you like. No one will stop you.
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