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Join the LiquidLegends 2017 Worlds Pick'em Group!

Ban bets!!
Ban bets will continue for the duration of Worlds. You can place bet at any phase of Worlds; on individual games, series, whatever your heart desires.
Bans will be enacted the day after Worlds ends, to ensure everyone can still post on LL while Worlds is ongoing. glhf~

- Winners in bold
- better, better's win condition, bettee [ban duration for loser]
- Yorbon, EDG fails to make it out of groups, vs DarkCore [1 week]
- Sleight, Fnatic doesn't make it out of groups, vs AlterKot [2:1 weeks]
- Apex, Gigabyte getting out of groups as a 1st place seed + TSM will finish 1st in their groups + Samsung will fail to qualify from their group + C9 will get out of their groups, vs JimmiC [1 week]
- geript, Korean teams will win a combined 17 or more games in Groups, vs Gahlo [1 month]
- geript, NA teams will win a combined 7 or less games in Groups, vs Torchise [1 month]
- zer0das, SKT doesn't win Worlds, vs no one [1 year]
- Zato-1, NA teams combined wins will be greater than or equal to EU teams combined wins, vs Yorbon [1 month]
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 30 2017 00:26 GMT
#301
On September 30 2017 09:23 Ansibled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 09:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 30 2017 08:52 Numy wrote:
On September 30 2017 08:40 Sent. wrote:
I expect Marines to perfom like a true wildcard team. Don't believe they can repeat the surprise from last year. SSG not advancing is hella wild.

I'm questioning if I believe less in LCS or GAM. It's a tough choice honestly.



IMT shouldn't be trusted with second place. The only high pressure games they played they crumbled to TSM. The Marine's MSI performance and YG gives me enough confidence in GAM to say they could definitely get 3rd over IMT. Hell they just might be able to get out, but that's a pretty out there chance.


SSG not advancing is 'as simple as' RNG showing up and 2-0ing them, and G2 splitting games with them, where G2 gets lucky and wins the tie breaker. Is that going to happen? Most likely not. Is G2 good enough to beat SSG in a best of 5? Probably not. Could they beat them in 2 separate games and advance because RNG put in the real work? I see it as possible

Since G2 has a solid history of performance in group stages.


That's why its in 'wild but justifiable' not 'pretty safe bets'
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
September 30 2017 00:28 GMT
#302
G2 has had 1 decent international tournament where they snuck out of groups because TSM was playing Wildturtle instread of Doublelift.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 30 2017 00:34 GMT
#303
Chipmunklord is tilting me in a way that can only be settled by ban betting. I want SSG to place higher than RNG for 1 week and IMT to place over Fnatic for another week.

Put your money where your mouth is.
Carrilord has arrived.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 30 2017 00:39 GMT
#304
Ahh, the time honored tradition of ban bets during Worlds. attn: LimpingGoat
At least I'd give TSM better odds this year than last. zz
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
September 30 2017 00:42 GMT
#305
Bets are actually nice.

Is anyone willing to bet against me on EDG's performance? I'd say they don't get out of groups.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 30 2017 00:44 GMT
#306
On September 30 2017 09:34 Slusher wrote:
Chipmunklord is tilting me in a way that can only be settled by ban betting. I want SSG to place higher than RNG for 1 week and IMT to place over Fnatic for another week.

Put your money where your mouth is.


Why would I accept a ban bet for a prediction I've openly said is 'wild but justifiable'? Am I missing something? Why would I bet you anything when I specifically said its a wild prediction?
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 30 2017 00:48 GMT
#307
On September 30 2017 09:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 08:52 Numy wrote:
On September 30 2017 08:40 Sent. wrote:
I expect Marines to perfom like a true wildcard team. Don't believe they can repeat the surprise from last year. SSG not advancing is hella wild.

I'm questioning if I believe less in LCS or GAM. It's a tough choice honestly.



IMT shouldn't be trusted with second place. The only high pressure games they played they crumbled to TSM. The Marine's MSI performance and YG gives me enough confidence in GAM to say they could definitely get 3rd over IMT. Hell they just might be able to get out, but that's a pretty out there chance.


SSG not advancing is 'as simple as' RNG showing up and 2-0ing them, and G2 splitting games with them, where G2 gets lucky and wins the tie breaker. Is that going to happen? Most likely not. Is G2 good enough to beat SSG in a best of 5? Probably not. Could they beat them in 2 separate games and advance because RNG put in the real work? I see it as possible


this quote is not part of the wild but justifiable thread of comments, did I misunderstand what you meant here?
Carrilord has arrived.
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 00:54:05
September 30 2017 00:49 GMT
#308
On September 30 2017 08:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 08:54 dsyxelic wrote:
going full NA fanboy

though i wouldnt mind them all dropping :D

As expected from a 2017 TL fan.
hue


the first or the second LOL

hey tbf i got free sushi dinner off betting 0 NA in brackets last year :D

On September 30 2017 09:39 NeoIllusions wrote:
Ahh, the time honored tradition of ban bets during Worlds. attn: LimpingGoat
At least I'd give TSM better odds this year than last. zz


i think i ban bet him right? i remember he got literally every single prediction wrong lmao

TL/SKT
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 00:55:47
September 30 2017 00:52 GMT
#309
On September 30 2017 09:48 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 09:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On September 30 2017 08:52 Numy wrote:
On September 30 2017 08:40 Sent. wrote:
I expect Marines to perfom like a true wildcard team. Don't believe they can repeat the surprise from last year. SSG not advancing is hella wild.

I'm questioning if I believe less in LCS or GAM. It's a tough choice honestly.



IMT shouldn't be trusted with second place. The only high pressure games they played they crumbled to TSM. The Marine's MSI performance and YG gives me enough confidence in GAM to say they could definitely get 3rd over IMT. Hell they just might be able to get out, but that's a pretty out there chance.


SSG not advancing is 'as simple as' RNG showing up and 2-0ing them, and G2 splitting games with them, where G2 gets lucky and wins the tie breaker. Is that going to happen? Most likely not. Is G2 good enough to beat SSG in a best of 5? Probably not. Could they beat them in 2 separate games and advance because RNG put in the real work? I see it as possible


this quote is not part of the wild but justifiable thread of comments, did I misunderstand what you meant here?


Considering the SSG not advancing comment was directly related to me saying in a post or two above that that was my wild prediction yea you probably missed something. Also I was giving my opinion on which of IMT (LCS) or GAM should be trusted more. And my answer was GAM. I even use 'could' and 'out there chance' when talking about GAM getting 2nd or 3rd in that group. I don't trust IMT at all after their bo5 versus TSM. The safe bet is IMT to beat GAM and get 3rd, but its certainly within the realm of possibility that IMT gets last.

I should clarify, I personally disagree with the 'safe' bet that IMT is second place, but acknowledge that it is in fact the safe bet
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
September 30 2017 00:55 GMT
#310
The fact that you think Fnatic is good the the most unreasonable part.
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
September 30 2017 01:11 GMT
#311
On September 30 2017 09:49 dsyxelic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 08:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
On September 30 2017 08:54 dsyxelic wrote:
going full NA fanboy

though i wouldnt mind them all dropping :D

As expected from a 2017 TL fan.
hue


the first or the second LOL

hey tbf i got free sushi dinner off betting 0 NA in brackets last year :D


... but NA did make it to brackets last year ... ?
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
September 30 2017 01:18 GMT
#312
I would consider IMT placing last shocking because I can't imagine them losing to Marines twice. Much harder to predict who'll win IMT vs FNC, but currently I'm leaning towards Immortals because Fnatic's bot lane played like shit in lane. Caps has the potential to destroy Pobelter, but I think it's not as likely to happen as Rekkles going for a suicidal early all-in.
You're now breathing manually
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
September 30 2017 01:21 GMT
#313
On September 30 2017 10:11 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 09:49 dsyxelic wrote:
On September 30 2017 08:55 NeoIllusions wrote:
On September 30 2017 08:54 dsyxelic wrote:
going full NA fanboy

though i wouldnt mind them all dropping :D

As expected from a 2017 TL fan.
hue


the first or the second LOL

hey tbf i got free sushi dinner off betting 0 NA in brackets last year :D


... but NA did make it to brackets last year ... ?


right c9 did

the bet was actually koreans all #1 and no NA 1st (aka betting against a tsm fan for group D) and just assumed that it ended up being 0 NA

woops
TL/SKT
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 30 2017 02:58 GMT
#314
I'm so confused your saying you think ppl are wrong when they say imt over fnc is a good bet but you won't bet on it.

Good stuff man
Carrilord has arrived.
St3MoR
Profile Joined November 2002
Spain3256 Posts
September 30 2017 07:46 GMT
#315
It seems like FNC 2nd in B is a quite popular opinion, but I don't really see it, in fact I believe teams from play-in come at a significant disadvantage to the group stage, I expect FNC 3-4 but maybe the REKKINCREW will prove me wrong.
Prophet in TL of the Makoto0124 ways
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 10:03:16
September 30 2017 09:31 GMT
#316
Is anyone willing to bet against me on EDG's performance? I'd say they don't get out of groups.


imgur.com

I'm taking you on that bet. If EDG doesn't make it out, I want to be banned for a week because I believed in them.

Reasoning for each group:

SKT and EDG are going to win all their games except SKT beats EDG, but Ahq will somehow win a game against EDG just like last time they met in groups. That will edge them over C9 because they go 1-1. iBoy and Scout are going to slaughter some poor kids in cold blood at least once each.

LZ being first is obvious. Fnatic is going to play poorly against GAM but eek out wins, then they will magically become good in one game against IMT. IMT, who have a chance to return the favour in their second game, loses a game to GAM by surprise, and end up falling out of contention.

RNG will win at least one game against SSG. There will be a tiebreaker, and Uzi will remember that he didn't win the championship this split, and proceeds to destroy the SSG bot lane. Chinese fans will be so loud Phreak will go deaf and be forced to retire.

This group is going to be really low quality, sad games. WE will look poorly but somehow win every game, might lose a game to TSM. TSM will have at least one clown fiesta, but that's OK because FW are going to join in, except they forget to win any games. MSF will trouble everyone and look really good, but somehow finish last. People will pat them on the back and say 'better luck next year'.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 30 2017 09:35 GMT
#317
On September 30 2017 16:46 St3MoR wrote:
It seems like FNC 2nd in B is a quite popular opinion, but I don't really see it, in fact I believe teams from play-in come at a significant disadvantage to the group stage, I expect FNC 3-4 but maybe the REKKINCREW will prove me wrong.

I went with my heart over my mind there personally.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
September 30 2017 09:39 GMT
#318
I just think Immortals sucks.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
September 30 2017 12:17 GMT
#319
Uhh LL pick'em group keeps kicking out my EUW account. Is It because the site detects I'm physically in EUNE and the page tells me it doesn't support my region so some functionalities may be unavailable?
You're now breathing manually
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-30 12:38:16
September 30 2017 12:37 GMT
#320
Worked on my euw acc

+ Show Spoiler +
u mnie działa
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
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