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Join the LiquidLegends 2017 Worlds Pick'em Group!

Ban bets!!
Ban bets will continue for the duration of Worlds. You can place bet at any phase of Worlds; on individual games, series, whatever your heart desires.
Bans will be enacted the day after Worlds ends, to ensure everyone can still post on LL while Worlds is ongoing. glhf~

- Winners in bold
- better, better's win condition, bettee [ban duration for loser]
- Yorbon, EDG fails to make it out of groups, vs DarkCore [1 week]
- Sleight, Fnatic doesn't make it out of groups, vs AlterKot [2:1 weeks]
- Apex, Gigabyte getting out of groups as a 1st place seed + TSM will finish 1st in their groups + Samsung will fail to qualify from their group + C9 will get out of their groups, vs JimmiC [1 week]
- geript, Korean teams will win a combined 17 or more games in Groups, vs Gahlo [1 month]
- geript, NA teams will win a combined 7 or less games in Groups, vs Torchise [1 month]
- zer0das, SKT doesn't win Worlds, vs no one [1 year]
- Zato-1, NA teams combined wins will be greater than or equal to EU teams combined wins, vs Yorbon [1 month]
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 18:38:22
September 29 2017 18:38 GMT
#281
Haha, there's a real possibility that quarterfinals might be three KR v CN matches plus one NA v NA match:

SKT v RNG
LZ v EDG
SSG v WE
TSM v IMT
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
September 29 2017 18:46 GMT
#282
On September 29 2017 22:26 Sent. wrote:
Rito where are my Pick'ems???

Group A
1. SKT 2. EDG 3. C9 4. AHQ
Certain about first and second. Don't know who will take the third but there is no way C9 or AHQ advance.

Group B
1. Longzhu 2.IMT 3. FNC. 4. Marines
Fnatic can take second if IMT shits the bed or 4th if they shit the bed.

Group C
1. SSG 2. RNG 3. G2 4. Turkey
Rooting for G2 though. I think SSG and RNG are beatable.

Group of Death /s
1. TSM 2. WE 3. FW 4. Misfits
Taipeichingong's Revenge.

I don't understand how group 4 is the group of death. In general, the team's are closest to each other in skill. If any team has a 3-0 day they should at worst be playing a win and in. Any of those four could get out of that group. IMO, group 1 is the group of death; you have 3 good teams that generally do well at worlds and have a history of being strong; and then you have C9. In group 1, one good team is not making semifinals; in group four, maybe one good team is making semifinals.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 29 2017 18:49 GMT
#283
I'm pretty sure he's being facetious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 29 2017 18:53 GMT
#284
He tagged it /s, which means he's sarcastic
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 19:04:00
September 29 2017 19:01 GMT
#285
I'm slow
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35150 Posts
September 29 2017 20:04 GMT
#286
[image loading]

A: Pretty standard* here, I think. Not much point in discussing.

B: I'm not high on Fnatic at all, which is why I have them placed 4th. I think the prospect of them getting out of the group is laughable.

C: Like group A, I think this is pretty standard*.

D: This is going off of WE's play in the play-in stage and TSM getting to sit in Korea the whole bootcamp and scrim against any Korean team they can get a hold of. Maybe Misfits can make an upset and topple Flash Wolves.

*barring China collapse trend.
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
September 29 2017 20:07 GMT
#287
C9 can upset EDG with a little luck. Likely? No. IMT are going to wreck FNC. All the EU hype beasts forgot how shitty Fnatic looked vs YG. There 3-0 doesn't impress me. At all. All the first seeds would have looked as good vs that garbage. Group 3 is going to be fun for G2 stealing a game from either RNG or SSG and deciding first vs second seed. Group 4... TSM is so much better than WE. All the LMS fanboys are kidding themselves. Anyone looking through my history will see I hate Regi and TSM... But I live in reality. TSM easy first. WE can fight FW for second. MSF only can play dream crusher. They are a lock for 4th.

The smart bets are
A - SKT EDG
B - LZ IMT
C - RNG SSG (coin flip)
D - TSM WE

But I will put C9 as 2nd on hope.
One Love
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
September 29 2017 20:16 GMT
#288
[image loading]
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
September 29 2017 21:27 GMT
#289
Just because Crown got put in the dumpster by Faker doesn't suddenly make ssg a non favorite vs any non Korean team some of you guys are nuts.

Carrilord has arrived.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 22:57:15
September 29 2017 22:55 GMT
#290
[image loading]

Korean teams being first is a no-brainer for me as a Korean fanboy, but not too sure about the rest. I'll possibly change after watching some more games this weekend. Group B,C and D are toss ups for 2nd or third for me atm.

Btw, is there a LL group, just like last time?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 29 2017 23:07 GMT
#291
Made an LL Pick'em group. Link is at the top, public note.
glhf all
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-29 23:31:26
September 29 2017 23:26 GMT
#292
If you had to make a "wild but also justifiable predictions" what would you do?

I'd put (from most justifiable to wildest):
G2 second,
C9 second (above EDG),
IMT last, FNC second
Misfits second (tiebreakers due to some multi-way tie clusterfuck) ,
You're now breathing manually
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 29 2017 23:36 GMT
#293
On September 30 2017 08:26 Sent. wrote:
If you had to make a "wild but also justifiable predictions" what would you do?

I'd put (from most justifiable to wildest):
G2 second,
C9 second (above EDG),
IMT last, FNC second
Misfits second (tiebreakers due to some multi-way tie clusterfuck) ,


SSG not making it out of groups would be the most 'wild but justifiable' I think I could get. I don't think IMT last is actually that wild. Sure they're probably getting third, but the Marines are an odd bunch
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
September 29 2017 23:40 GMT
#294
I expect Marines to perfom like a true wildcard team. Don't believe they can repeat the surprise from last year. SSG not advancing is hella wild.
You're now breathing manually
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 29 2017 23:47 GMT
#295
The two tossups I'm looking at are: C9 <> EDG for second. and TSM <> WE for first.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 29 2017 23:52 GMT
#296
On September 30 2017 08:40 Sent. wrote:
I expect Marines to perfom like a true wildcard team. Don't believe they can repeat the surprise from last year. SSG not advancing is hella wild.

I'm questioning if I believe less in LCS or GAM. It's a tough choice honestly.
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
September 29 2017 23:54 GMT
#297
going full NA fanboy

though i wouldnt mind them all dropping :D
TL/SKT
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 29 2017 23:55 GMT
#298
On September 30 2017 08:54 dsyxelic wrote:
going full NA fanboy

though i wouldnt mind them all dropping :D

As expected from a 2017 TL fan.
hue
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
September 30 2017 00:19 GMT
#299
On September 30 2017 08:52 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 08:40 Sent. wrote:
I expect Marines to perfom like a true wildcard team. Don't believe they can repeat the surprise from last year. SSG not advancing is hella wild.

I'm questioning if I believe less in LCS or GAM. It's a tough choice honestly.



IMT shouldn't be trusted with second place. The only high pressure games they played they crumbled to TSM. The Marine's MSI performance and YG gives me enough confidence in GAM to say they could definitely get 3rd over IMT. Hell they just might be able to get out, but that's a pretty out there chance.


SSG not advancing is 'as simple as' RNG showing up and 2-0ing them, and G2 splitting games with them, where G2 gets lucky and wins the tie breaker. Is that going to happen? Most likely not. Is G2 good enough to beat SSG in a best of 5? Probably not. Could they beat them in 2 separate games and advance because RNG put in the real work? I see it as possible
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
September 30 2017 00:23 GMT
#300
On September 30 2017 09:19 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2017 08:52 Numy wrote:
On September 30 2017 08:40 Sent. wrote:
I expect Marines to perfom like a true wildcard team. Don't believe they can repeat the surprise from last year. SSG not advancing is hella wild.

I'm questioning if I believe less in LCS or GAM. It's a tough choice honestly.



IMT shouldn't be trusted with second place. The only high pressure games they played they crumbled to TSM. The Marine's MSI performance and YG gives me enough confidence in GAM to say they could definitely get 3rd over IMT. Hell they just might be able to get out, but that's a pretty out there chance.


SSG not advancing is 'as simple as' RNG showing up and 2-0ing them, and G2 splitting games with them, where G2 gets lucky and wins the tie breaker. Is that going to happen? Most likely not. Is G2 good enough to beat SSG in a best of 5? Probably not. Could they beat them in 2 separate games and advance because RNG put in the real work? I see it as possible

Since G2 has a solid history of performance in group stages.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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