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Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
April 22 2017 19:27 GMT
#121
Is Ivern's early game shit, or is Inori just getting outjungled really hard by Moon? 26 cs to 53 is terrible
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
April 22 2017 19:34 GMT
#122
On April 23 2017 04:27 Zato-1 wrote:
Is Ivern's early game shit, or is Inori just getting outjungled really hard by Moon? 26 cs to 53 is terrible


Ivern has a kind of shitty early game CS wise. The plus side is Ivern's lesser cs numbers should include tri buffing the enemy (because of his passive) and stealing a few early game camps
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-22 19:43:39
April 22 2017 19:40 GMT
#123
On April 23 2017 04:27 Zato-1 wrote:
Is Ivern's early game shit, or is Inori just getting outjungled really hard by Moon? 26 cs to 53 is terrible

Ivern doesn't CS that hard. He's often down 20-30 cs but makes up for it with being boss once item thresholds come on.

He also doesn't really need items to make himself good, his abilities tend to be item independent so he just uses those small cs numbers to get support items.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9169 Posts
April 22 2017 19:43 GMT
#124
Ryu and Zig have ~40% damage participation each lul
You're now breathing manually
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35130 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-22 19:49:04
April 22 2017 19:48 GMT
#125
Keep in mind that Ivern has underinflated CS scores because when he clears Krugs he only get credit from the ones the spawn. So he gets 2 CS for 80 gold from it as opposed to the 10 CS for 160g.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
April 22 2017 19:50 GMT
#126
wow that's how you close a game
dsyxelic
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1417 Posts
April 22 2017 19:52 GMT
#127
jungle cs is hardly relevant anymore in trying to gauge who is behind or not. just check items/levels
TL/SKT
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-22 19:59:05
April 22 2017 19:58 GMT
#128
This should be an easy 3-0 but I said that last time and CLG shit the bed so who knows anymore.
On April 23 2017 04:48 Gahlo wrote:
Keep in mind that Ivern has underinflated CS scores because when he clears Krugs he only get credit from the ones the spawn. So he gets 2 CS for 80 gold from it as opposed to the 10 CS for 160g.

Forgot about that. Yea CS numbers for junglers just really don't mean much since camps are so diverse when it comes to number of units unlike lane CS being uniform. Item breakpoints and level are way easier/better ways to check.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-22 20:02:42
April 22 2017 20:02 GMT
#129
CS numbers don't matter on junglers because the jungler's job isn't to farm. Makes no sense to look at it. About as useful as support cs.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
April 22 2017 21:00 GMT
#130
The teams are taking turns at being mentally challenged in champ select.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 22 2017 21:02 GMT
#131
I'm still so baffled NA picks J4 top. It just looks boosted every time I see it.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
April 22 2017 21:13 GMT
#132
Was that a Gragas AA bug, or did he cancel the AA?
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
April 22 2017 21:33 GMT
#133
Watching the stream muted is weirdly satisfying because you can relax and understand the game on your own. No hate against casters but I lately do this quite often.
Science>Mechanics
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
April 22 2017 21:40 GMT
#134
Do they have a midlane sub? Could have used it really badly for the whole playoffs.
Kyo Yuy
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1286 Posts
April 22 2017 21:41 GMT
#135
So do people still think FlyQuest is a 10th place team?
#1 KawaiiRice fan :D
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
April 22 2017 22:09 GMT
#136
On April 23 2017 06:41 Kyo Yuy wrote:
So do people still think FlyQuest is a 10th place team?


I think they're the third best team in the league, and in an hour I'll be proven right
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-22 23:41:43
April 22 2017 22:25 GMT
#137
I still don't think they are a good team though. It's just the drop off after C9/TSM is so severe that they may be the top of the pack after that. These are meant to be part of the top 4 but the level of play really doesn't feel it is.

edit: Turns out NA mids are just too heavy.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
April 23 2017 01:34 GMT
#138
On April 23 2017 06:41 Kyo Yuy wrote:
So do people still think FlyQuest is a 10th place team?

People stopped thinking Flyquest is a 10th place team a long time ago. The fact that they're an above-average team just speaks volumes about how shallow the number of good teams in NA is because Flyquest has some pretty washed up players in Balls and Lemon (I don't think Hai is washed up though).
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35130 Posts
April 23 2017 05:39 GMT
#139
Yeah, I don't think Flyquest are going to do better in the summer. Nor do I think they're above average. They were able to sneak into playoffs due to cheesing teams out early in the split. A lot of teams got better as time went along and could make big strides with 1 roster change in the right direction. Who does Flyquest have that's an actual carry potential in NA outside of Hai's shotcalling?
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
April 23 2017 06:34 GMT
#140
Balls is really bad. That's all I have to say about this series.
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