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On April 23 2017 14:39 Gahlo wrote:
Yeah, I don't think Flyquest are going to do better in the summer. Nor do I think they're above average. They were able to sneak into playoffs due to cheesing teams out early in the split. A lot of teams got better as time went along and could make big strides with 1 roster change in the right direction. Who does Flyquest have that's an actual carry potential in NA outside of Hai's shotcalling?
I think a decent proxy for that is to look at Player of the Game awards.
Lemon: 1
Balls: 1
Altec: 3
Moon: 8
Hai: 9
I think Hai carried a fair number of games for Flyquest and deserves a lot of credit for how far the team made it this split. Moon is no LirA but he's one of the better players on the team as well. Altec is a legit good ADC who I place roughly at Stixxay's level, only below the likes of Sneaky and Doublelift.
But to answer the question specifically, I think Hai represents Flyquest's best carry potential. He's no Bjergsen, Jensen or Ryu, but he's a good enough player in the most important role in the game and has been the one to carry Flyquest more often than not in their wins.
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I think Hai and Moon make an excellent combo that has carry potential and Altec is a very solid adc. I don't think it's terribly surprising where they ended up this split. If Flyquest can nab a top tier top laner I could see them improving quite a bit.
With that said, while I think Hai is a very good mid laner he is not quite top tier and with the mid lane being so critical, that seriously handicaps how high they can rise at the moment because Hai is also the glue that holds everything together and can't really be replaced for Flyquest.
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I am so excited, watching this live :D
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Did they announce the split MVP yet?
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This is brutal so far. TSM mullering C9 in game 1.
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Yeah, C9 getting wrecked, hope this isn't an indicator for the rest of the series. Every lane losing...
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On April 24 2017 04:33 DarkCore wrote:
Yeah, C9 getting wrecked, hope this isn't an indicator for the rest of the series. Every lane losing...
Only top is losing. Mid is even and bot is just a matchup+contractz inting.
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NA teams need to start banning kennen so they can stop picking this absolute garbage.
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I'd rather see Kennen's build Nashor's if they want to become a split push threat than this AD garbage.
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Wow haha, Hauntzer just got styled on but still won 
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That looks so unfair for Ray.
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About as crushing a game as you'll ever see.
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Think we're going to see Impact fielded for the rest of the series, Ray is getting absolutely hammered. I feel bad for him, he almost outplayed Hauntzer despite being so far behind, but he failed.
26 minute inhib, ouch that's brutal.
What a one sided game, TSM played it flawlessly, and C9 couldn't keep up with the pace.
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Don't even think it was really Ray's fault. He soaked up two tank attempts from Ivern and stayed even in CS. Most of the crushing came later on. Largely I think it was a failed draft and bottom lane getting pulverized due to that which allowed Biofrost and Turtle to make some important early game plays. Jensen also didn't do squat despite facing a laner starting with 10% hp. Still, C9 should have just started with Impact.
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It seems like subs are usually a detriment in playoff games. I can't remember a sub making a difference in an important game. I only remember the "starters" having to come back to save the day.
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Sven with the usual inting on invade.
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On April 24 2017 05:14 lilwisper wrote:
It seems like subs are usually a detriment in playoff games. I can't remember a sub making a difference in an important game. I only remember the "starters" having to come back to save the day.
Faker and Easyhoon is the classic, although it's SKT, so not really the best example. EDG made it work today, China in general is the region you see teams fielding subs often, if not always to great effect.
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What in the world is Cloud9 doing
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EPT
