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On October 04 2015 08:27 Hider wrote:Show nested quote + think Fnatic got exposed massively yesterday. During the Summer split Huni was largely left untouched due to their 18-0 run. But the final vs Origen we saw a lot of weaknesses with Huni. This time the flaw is becoming even more obvious. Your just making shit up here. Huni didn't get "exposed". His TP useage has always been consistently good throughout both spring and summersplit. This was just a level of megatilt and overaggresiveness that he doesn't do normally. In the circumstances where you can clearly identify where a player performs at his absollute E game, I wouldn't worry so much going forward. Being exposed implies that they were playing their normal game and getting outplayed, which definitely wasn't the case here. Fnatic was outplaying AHQ. This was just Huni's loss.
I think you are just arguing with me on syntax. This has happened during Fnatic vs Origen too where Huni plays too aggressive and get punished. I don't really see how this game is that different.
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Did anyone count the amount of unique champions (pick or p+b) and compare that to last year? The picks feel far more diverse than they did last year but it might just be me. Definitely a lot of picks I wasn't expecting to see so far at least.
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On October 04 2015 08:29 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 08:27 Hider wrote: think Fnatic got exposed massively yesterday. During the Summer split Huni was largely left untouched due to their 18-0 run. But the final vs Origen we saw a lot of weaknesses with Huni. This time the flaw is becoming even more obvious. Your just making shit up here. Huni didn't get "exposed". His TP useage has always been consistently good throughout both spring and summersplit. This was just a level of megatilt and overaggresiveness that he doesn't do normally. In the circumstances where you can clearly identify where a player performs at his absollute E game, I wouldn't worry so much going forward. Being exposed implies that they were playing their normal game and getting outplayed, which definitely wasn't the case here. Fnatic was outplaying AHQ. This was just Huni's loss. I think you are just arguing with me on syntax. This has happened during Fnatic vs Origen too where Huni plays too aggressive and get punished. I don't really see how this game is that different.
Well Huni's weakness is that he at times won't respect the ganks and thus he is especially weak on champs with weak escapes (like Lulu, Darius). But mid/late game he is always solid and his TP useage has historically been really good.
That's why this game was unusual. He died to a gank once and then just went complete nuts on megatilt with awfull TPing.
Like imagine the game if Huni had just went back to farm after dying to the first gank. Fnatic would have been so much in the lead. Especially because Huni's TP would have been up then.
The notion that they have been "exposed" or figured out or whatever you want to make it out to be is just ridiclous. Don't overanalyze after one loss where one player clearly is hitting rock-rock bottom.
Rather imagine - going forward - how FNC will play if he is on a different champion+ his top useage is of similar level to how it has been the last 50 games he has played with FNC.
If anything I am a lot more worried about IG's macroplay. They were ahead by 4-2 kills vs C9 and even then it seemed like they were destined to lose as they were losing towers left and right.
That seems to be a much more worrying trend as it's not easily adressable.
Even though I do think C9 is legit good (and I never agreed with the consensus that they just got through the Gauntlet as Monte said because the other teams had "given up"), I still consider Fnatic to be big favourites tomorrow.
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On October 04 2015 08:39 Mikau wrote:
Did anyone count the amount of unique champions (pick or p+b) and compare that to last year? The picks feel far more diverse than they did last year but it might just be me. Definitely a lot of picks I wasn't expecting to see so far at least.
59 or something so far.
Last year it was 48 overall
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Also, is it just me or did Darius only win one game so far?
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Edit button. 
Also, that's true of Braum iirc.
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
wolf played pretty well on braum. good wolf
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On October 04 2015 08:40 Hider wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 08:29 Sufficiency wrote:On October 04 2015 08:27 Hider wrote: think Fnatic got exposed massively yesterday. During the Summer split Huni was largely left untouched due to their 18-0 run. But the final vs Origen we saw a lot of weaknesses with Huni. This time the flaw is becoming even more obvious. Your just making shit up here. Huni didn't get "exposed". His TP useage has always been consistently good throughout both spring and summersplit. This was just a level of megatilt and overaggresiveness that he doesn't do normally. In the circumstances where you can clearly identify where a player performs at his absollute E game, I wouldn't worry so much going forward. Being exposed implies that they were playing their normal game and getting outplayed, which definitely wasn't the case here. Fnatic was outplaying AHQ. This was just Huni's loss. I think you are just arguing with me on syntax. This has happened during Fnatic vs Origen too where Huni plays too aggressive and get punished. I don't really see how this game is that different. Well Huni's weakness is that he at times won't respect the ganks and thus he is especially weak on champs with weak escapes (like Lulu, Darius). But mid/late game he is always solid and his TP useage has historically been really good. That's why this game was unusual. He died to a gank once and then just went complete nuts on megatilt with awfull TPing. Like imagine the game if Huni had just went back to farm after dying to the first gank. Fnatic would have been so much in the lead. Especially because Huni's TP would have been up then. The notion that they have been "exposed" or figured out or whatever you want to make it out to be is just ridiclous. Don't overanalyze after one loss where one player clearly is hitting rock-rock bottom. Rather imagine - going forward - how FNC will play if he is on a different champion+ his top useage is of similar level to how it has been the last 50 games he has played with FNC. If anything I am a lot more worried about IG's macroplay. They were ahead by 4-2 kills vs C9 and even then it seemed like they were destined to lose as they were losing towers left and right. That seems to be a much more worrying trend as it's not easily adressable. Even though I do think C9 is legit good (and I never agreed with the consensus that they just got through the Gauntlet as Monte said because the other teams had "given up"), I still consider Fnatic to be big favourites tomorrow.
Well it wasn't even that. Huni did not die to a gank.
AHQ rotated 3 top to take the tower. Huni saw it and back off then stuck around in his jungle for no reason and got caught and killed. He chose to fight at the krugs bush after he saw the collapse and ceded the tower.
Then the port->flash E onto elise which give away two kills.
What is amazing is that FNC were still up in team gold after this and could probably still win any team fight because while Kench has lots of burst protect; FNC easily had better consistent damage and threat in Olaf and Darius so long as Huni only attempts to start an ult on Gnar, Kench, or Jinx with Kench w down. And really the tankier the target the better use you get out of that large true damage nuke.
But Huni ulted Elise first like every fight and Elise just rappelled it.
Edit: The end of the game and the bad port was shotcalling. FNC chose that fight that Huni couldn't port to and there was no reason for them to do so. Some of the baron calls were pretty suspect too.
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On October 04 2015 08:50 Sufficiency wrote:
Also, is it just me or did Darius only win one game so far?
It's just you. He's 6-5. Doesn't feel like it.
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On October 04 2015 09:10 zer0das wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2015 08:50 Sufficiency wrote:
Also, is it just me or did Darius only win one game so far? It's just you. He's 6-5. Doesn't feel like it.
I think it's because when he is on the losing team he looks TERRIBLE.
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Pretty sure the result of Group B is upside down, LOL....
User was warned for this post (repeated double posts)
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Lol TSM.
Seriously though, NA is leading in two different groups.
:O
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On October 04 2015 09:25 iCanada wrote:
Lol TSM.
Seriously though, NA is leading in two different groups.
:O
At least one NA team is living up the NA stereotype :^)
But honestly, last year TSM just got lucky being placed in a non-Korean group...
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France12883 Posts
Yeah I think as well that Darius looks terrible on the losing team because it feels like it's useless, I was even wondering if Darius won except for super one sided MU such as EDG/SKT vs BKT, before seeing 6-5 w/l...
Tomorrow is gonna be good as well!
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So who is gonna shit the bed worse, LGD or TSM? Trying to decide my liquibets and that's the only one I'm not sure of
On October 04 2015 11:09 plasmidghost wrote:
Whoa holy shit an Anivia pick, I need to watch that game and see xPeke dominate
The rebroadcast will have it in like 5 minutes
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Whoa holy shit an Anivia pick, I need to watch that game and see xPeke dominate
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On October 04 2015 10:21 Poopi wrote:
Yeah I think as well that Darius looks terrible on the losing team because it feels like it's useless, I was even wondering if Darius won except for super one sided MU such as EDG/SKT vs BKT, before seeing 6-5 w/l...
Tomorrow is gonna be good as well!
Darius' win/loss record is misleading. On CLG's first game, vs. Flash Wolves, Zion was playing Darius and CLG won- but they won despite Zion's Darius, not because of it. C9 also won a game where they had to carry a very heavy Darius from Balls.
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On October 04 2015 11:09 plasmidghost wrote:
Whoa holy shit an Anivia pick, I need to watch that game and see xPeke dominate
That game was more about Wildturtle running into Anivia ice balls.
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why didnt they put the shitlord game at 8 AM 
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