• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:18
CEST 15:18
KST 22:18
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202538Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up4LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced55
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up How to leave Master league - bug fix? Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Interview with Chris "ChanmanV" Chan
Tourneys
$5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION TO CRYPTO RECOVERY WITH PRO Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 688 users

2015 Worlds Group Stage Day 1-4 Results - Page 229

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 227 228 229 230 231 323 Next
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6421 Posts
October 03 2015 19:33 GMT
#4561
wow there are so many upsets this year. I'm actually really excited about following worlds this year after somewhat boring s3 and s4 worlds. if tsm beats lgd, i'm going to lose my mind.
bnet: caelym#1470 | Twitter: @caelym
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 03 2015 19:37 GMT
#4562
On October 04 2015 04:05 oneofthem wrote:
this is the league of legends anime featuring hai


EE transferred all of his anime to Hai in a last ditch effort to get C9 to win something huge
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-03 19:52:01
October 03 2015 19:38 GMT
#4563
im re-looking at the TSM vs Origen atm and Lustboy might be the worst support along with Kitties at Worlds. I dont include WC teams of couse.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-03 19:50:23
October 03 2015 19:50 GMT
#4564
On October 04 2015 04:38 Mensol wrote:
im re-looking at the TSM vs Origen atm and Lustboy might be the worst support along with Kiddies at Worlds. I dont include WC teams of couse.


Probably. I think he started believing his own stupid "Lust Cena" hype a bit too much, without realizing it was against crappy NA competition. Competition got better, he's still doing stupid stuff all day long. Never going to cut it on the world stage.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-03 19:54:12
October 03 2015 19:53 GMT
#4565
On October 04 2015 04:50 zer0das wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 04:38 Mensol wrote:
im re-looking at the TSM vs Origen atm and Lustboy might be the worst support along with Kiddies at Worlds. I dont include WC teams of couse.


Probably. I think he started believing his own stupid "Lust Cena" hype a bit too much, without realizing it was against crappy NA competition. Competition got better, he's still doing stupid stuff all day long. Never going to cut it on the world stage.


Lustboy got worse over time imo, he either didn't put in the effort to improve, let the FREESM stuff get to him, or he was a failing player.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-03 19:57:27
October 03 2015 19:55 GMT
#4566
Idk, lustboy's career has always seen him fall off hard when the meta shifted back to melee engage supports. On disengage supports like nami and janna he's great (The legendary lustboy lulu) but this meta is never going to accommodate that so he's stuck in a hole.

Like he had a very similar pattern on CJ Blaze, when the meta started to drift away from him CJ had to literally build an entire strat around covering him and cptjack by sending helios bot with nasus so they can three man shove to keep the pressure of flame and ambition.
Glorious SEA doto
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 03 2015 20:00 GMT
#4567
On October 04 2015 04:55 Fusilero wrote:
Idk, lustboy's career has always seen him fall off hard when the meta shifted back to melee engage supports. On disengage supports like nami and janna he's great (The legendary lustboy lulu) but this meta is never going to accommodate that so he's stuck in a hole.

Like he had a very similar pattern on CJ Blaze, when the meta started to drift away from him CJ had to literally build an entire strat around covering him and cptjack by sending helios bot with nasus so they can three man shove to keep the pressure of flame and ambition.

Janna, still legit good.
liftlift > tsm
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
October 03 2015 20:03 GMT
#4568
On October 04 2015 05:00 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 04:55 Fusilero wrote:
Idk, lustboy's career has always seen him fall off hard when the meta shifted back to melee engage supports. On disengage supports like nami and janna he's great (The legendary lustboy lulu) but this meta is never going to accommodate that so he's stuck in a hole.

Like he had a very similar pattern on CJ Blaze, when the meta started to drift away from him CJ had to literally build an entire strat around covering him and cptjack by sending helios bot with nasus so they can three man shove to keep the pressure of flame and ambition.

Janna, still legit good.

interestingly hasn't been picked yet this worlds I think
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 03 2015 20:03 GMT
#4569
One good champion does not make a support, Janna is still pretty strong but this worlds we've been seeing a lot of Braum. I wonder if Tahm support will show up more, but I expect we'd see him in top instead, or just very little.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 03 2015 20:07 GMT
#4570
On October 04 2015 05:03 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 05:00 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 04 2015 04:55 Fusilero wrote:
Idk, lustboy's career has always seen him fall off hard when the meta shifted back to melee engage supports. On disengage supports like nami and janna he's great (The legendary lustboy lulu) but this meta is never going to accommodate that so he's stuck in a hole.

Like he had a very similar pattern on CJ Blaze, when the meta started to drift away from him CJ had to literally build an entire strat around covering him and cptjack by sending helios bot with nasus so they can three man shove to keep the pressure of flame and ambition.

Janna, still legit good.

interestingly hasn't been picked yet this worlds I think

failure of tsm's coaching staff to realize what their player's champion pool are.
liftlift > tsm
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9198 Posts
October 03 2015 20:08 GMT
#4571
On October 04 2015 05:03 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2015 05:00 wei2coolman wrote:
On October 04 2015 04:55 Fusilero wrote:
Idk, lustboy's career has always seen him fall off hard when the meta shifted back to melee engage supports. On disengage supports like nami and janna he's great (The legendary lustboy lulu) but this meta is never going to accommodate that so he's stuck in a hole.

Like he had a very similar pattern on CJ Blaze, when the meta started to drift away from him CJ had to literally build an entire strat around covering him and cptjack by sending helios bot with nasus so they can three man shove to keep the pressure of flame and ambition.

Janna, still legit good.

interestingly hasn't been picked yet this worlds I think


For some reason everyone picks Braum when Janna seems like a good choice
You're now breathing manually
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
October 03 2015 20:09 GMT
#4572
Holy shit, I just saw lgd against kt. Lgd, and in particular their jungler and toplane, seem to really have fallen apart these last games. (And of course their draft, but even given the draft, i think they could've performed better)
KT's play was just beautiful. Very calculated risks, quick and decisive rotations, overall really polished. Before I thought they were quite good, but now I'm actually quite impressed.
Farari
Profile Joined January 2015
United States99 Posts
October 03 2015 20:18 GMT
#4573
worlds analyst ranking:

1. clement chu

2. who fucking cares
Don't make excuses, that's what pussies do -Moonmeander
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 03 2015 20:21 GMT
#4574
It's arguable if TBQ was even good to begin with. His job is to babysit his lanes, LGD has three massive threats, but right now the team is just in shambles, GODV really letting me down, Imp is playing sloppy. Was Acorn doing that bad? I just thought he had no impact on the game, but he wasn't throwing the game.

KT played the game well, yeah. Although LGD had some absolutely atrocious decision making, Imp gave free kills to Arrow's Kog. Very curious how they play vs OG, Niels vs Arrow hype.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-03 20:26:46
October 03 2015 20:24 GMT
#4575
Acorn laned decently by dear fucking god his TP usage. Acorn's greatest strength was his TP usage so this was a (wait for it) worrying trend

But yeah LGD's collapse can only really be understood by LGD themselves, Pyl's shotcalling dropped off a cliff. Imp had a very good game against origen then went full garbage mode against KT and I don't even want to talk about godv. One of these things happening is understandable but all of them at the same time and you're on some S3 SSW shit.

As for TBQ I don't consider this a falloff, more a regression to mean on his abilities.
Glorious SEA doto
MuddyJam
Profile Joined September 2014
535 Posts
October 03 2015 20:28 GMT
#4576
On October 04 2015 05:21 DarkCore wrote:
KT played the game well, yeah. Although LGD had some absolutely atrocious decision making, Imp gave free kills to Arrow's Kog. Very curious how they play vs OG, Niels vs Arrow hype.


banning Kalista would be a start.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
October 03 2015 20:28 GMT
#4577
On October 04 2015 05:21 DarkCore wrote:
It's arguable if TBQ was even good to begin with. His job is to babysit his lanes, LGD has three massive threats, but right now the team is just in shambles, GODV really letting me down, Imp is playing sloppy. Was Acorn doing that bad? I just thought he had no impact on the game, but he wasn't throwing the game.

KT played the game well, yeah. Although LGD had some absolutely atrocious decision making, Imp gave free kills to Arrow's Kog. Very curious how they play vs OG, Niels vs Arrow hype.


TBQ was never good. No one has ever said he was good. He's a joke in LPL where the fact that LGD managed to win with him is a miracle.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 03 2015 20:32 GMT
#4578
Yes, I want to see Niels play something not called Kalista. It's double priority bc Mithy knows how to use the ult well too. But who knows, if stuff like Morde or GP gets through bc of it, then idk if it was worth banning. Niels is strong Kalista, but juggernauts are another problem...
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
October 03 2015 20:54 GMT
#4579
I just watched Acorn's interview with Susie Kim. When they talked about the coaching issues of the team he mentioned that "Chinese players don't seem to know much about playing as a team" and he looked kind of annoyed as he was saying that. I feel like some Korean players are getting really tired by the exodus and if their contracts allow it we might see some of them coming back to Korea after worlds.

Of course that can depend a lot on the final result too ; EDG not winning worlds would certainly break the Korean players' faith in a possible Chinese-Korean cooperation whereas if EDG does end up winning they might just stay in China in the hope that the Chinese teammates they get next year are less heavy.

I know Acorn's play looked questionable too but he wasn't talking about the team's play at this particular tournament, it was a very broad statement. In general, I wouldn't be surprised if a good number of Koreans were legitimately upset at the teammates they are getting.
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
October 03 2015 21:15 GMT
#4580
I missed fnatic vs ahq. What happened?!
Prev 1 227 228 229 230 231 323 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
Mondays #46
WardiTV761
Harstem397
Rex141
CranKy Ducklings93
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 397
Lowko240
Rex 141
ProTech55
Codebar 21
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 35595
Calm 5538
Sea 3166
Horang2 2902
Shuttle 2566
Flash 1766
ggaemo 1380
hero 1107
EffOrt 1039
Barracks 1010
[ Show more ]
actioN 538
Hyuk 528
Mini 503
Larva 395
BeSt 357
Soulkey 294
Zeus 290
ZerO 228
Pusan 226
Soma 217
Mong 192
Snow 152
TY 133
Rush 126
Mind 94
Nal_rA 86
Sea.KH 62
Sharp 59
Movie 51
sSak 48
soO 36
[sc1f]eonzerg 31
sas.Sziky 29
JulyZerg 28
sorry 20
scan(afreeca) 19
Bale 13
Terrorterran 9
IntoTheRainbow 7
910 3
Dota 2
Gorgc2323
Dendi2092
qojqva1547
XcaliburYe460
KheZu454
Counter-Strike
ScreaM3418
olofmeister2842
x6flipin457
flusha244
oskar124
markeloff85
Other Games
singsing2406
B2W.Neo1486
hiko999
crisheroes417
Fuzer 270
mouzStarbuck174
XaKoH 158
Happy131
ArmadaUGS73
rGuardiaN41
QueenE39
FunKaTv 24
ZerO(Twitch)16
Hui .0
KnowMe0
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1540
lovetv 11
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 62
• davetesta25
• iHatsuTV 10
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV531
League of Legends
• Nemesis5319
• Jankos1386
Upcoming Events
RotterdaM Event
2h 42m
OSC
10h 42m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
21h 42m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 1h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 10h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 21h
Stormgate Nexus
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV Summer Champion…
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.