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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
October 04 2014 21:34 GMT
#2201
On October 05 2014 05:38 Sufficiency wrote:
My impression of the C9 games:

C9 can only win against strong teams when they got sufficiently far ahead in the early game that Hai derping does not impact the game.


I wanna see Hai work really hard at playing Utility mages like Zil / Ori / Liss. This way he doesn't need to beat kids in lane, he can tie most lanes pretty easily and even if he is 1/10/1 he still is helping his team.

I'm sorry but a 1/10/1 Zed doesn't do much.

Its an awklward situtation, Hai is their best and worst player at the same time. lol.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 04 2014 22:22 GMT
#2202
On October 04 2014 17:22 krndandaman wrote:
this translator just summarizes instead of translating word for word

that bothers me


Sjoks (or w/e) shouldn't ask such meandering questions when there is a translator. She doesn't change her interview style whether she is talking to Regi/Meteos, or Homme/Imp.
Freeeeeeedom
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
October 04 2014 22:48 GMT
#2203
On October 05 2014 07:22 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 17:22 krndandaman wrote:
this translator just summarizes instead of translating word for word

that bothers me


Sjoks (or w/e) shouldn't ask such meandering questions when there is a translator. She doesn't change her interview style whether she is talking to Regi/Meteos, or Homme/Imp.

She's probably just reading the script, can't blame her, Riot is dumb with their policies and stuff so she doesn't have much freedom.
<3 Kim Taeyeon
lega
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada290 Posts
October 04 2014 23:20 GMT
#2204
There is a rumour from Cloud's fan's group that OMG is gonna play with Cloud tomorrow.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 04 2014 23:38 GMT
#2205
On October 05 2014 07:48 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 07:22 cLutZ wrote:
On October 04 2014 17:22 krndandaman wrote:
this translator just summarizes instead of translating word for word

that bothers me


Sjoks (or w/e) shouldn't ask such meandering questions when there is a translator. She doesn't change her interview style whether she is talking to Regi/Meteos, or Homme/Imp.

She's probably just reading the script, can't blame her, Riot is dumb with their policies and stuff so she doesn't have much freedom.


"What do you think won you that game."
"Do you think you can finally win against Blue."

Not

"So after you went in after a game 1 loss to Cloud 9 and Sneaky's Lucian getting out of control and then they kind of just snowballed the game against you, you came back to win game 2, how did you manage to accomplish that. Mindset"

"So we know that you lost to Blue the last two times you faced. You guys lost in the OGN Spring and the OGN Summer in the semifinals, and well people have said that Blue just has the keys to beating Samsung White, and if you think about it maybe they do, but before maybe they say you have been a little too arrogant in some matchups here at worlds but can you beat Blue this time next Saturday."

What she says can't be a script, because it wouldn't make sense to write that. Even Dickens doesn't pad his dialogue that much.
Freeeeeeedom
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 04 2014 23:43 GMT
#2206
Giving more contextual questions is good interviewing technique generally though. It focuses the question and will generally elicit better, more in-depth and focused answers. When you ask general question, you typically get general answers, which doesn't make for good viewing.

The problem, however, is when you're interviewing someone who requires a translator, it's really hard to get direct one to one translation from interviewer to interviewee back to interviewer. You have to give up something. Either you give up directed, focused questions in favor of general, but easily and accurately translatable answers OR you continue asking focused questions, but get in-depth answers which will almost always lose something in the translation.
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
October 04 2014 23:58 GMT
#2207
I'm guessing then maybe she discusses with Riot about what to ask, and she sort of plans it out/freestyles it on the interview desk
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
October 05 2014 00:32 GMT
#2208
On October 05 2014 08:20 lega wrote:
There is a rumour from Cloud's fan's group that OMG is gonna play with Cloud tomorrow.


Eh ... That's a toughie ... OMG hasn't played with Cloud for a WHILE now ... I don't know how they're gonna do with him =(
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 05 2014 01:00 GMT
#2209
On October 05 2014 08:43 Ryuu314 wrote:
Giving more contextual questions is good interviewing technique generally though. It focuses the question and will generally elicit better, more in-depth and focused answers. When you ask general question, you typically get general answers, which doesn't make for good viewing.

The problem, however, is when you're interviewing someone who requires a translator, it's really hard to get direct one to one translation from interviewer to interviewee back to interviewer. You have to give up something. Either you give up directed, focused questions in favor of general, but easily and accurately translatable answers OR you continue asking focused questions, but get in-depth answers which will almost always lose something in the translation.


Well, the problem with saying "well you need to ask in depth questions to get in depth answers" is that no one gives good answers in these interviews because they are trained not to.
Freeeeeeedom
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35154 Posts
October 05 2014 01:06 GMT
#2210
On October 05 2014 10:00 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 08:43 Ryuu314 wrote:
Giving more contextual questions is good interviewing technique generally though. It focuses the question and will generally elicit better, more in-depth and focused answers. When you ask general question, you typically get general answers, which doesn't make for good viewing.

The problem, however, is when you're interviewing someone who requires a translator, it's really hard to get direct one to one translation from interviewer to interviewee back to interviewer. You have to give up something. Either you give up directed, focused questions in favor of general, but easily and accurately translatable answers OR you continue asking focused questions, but get in-depth answers which will almost always lose something in the translation.


Well, the problem with saying "well you need to ask in depth questions to get in depth answers" is that no one gives good answers in these interviews because they are trained not to.

Hey, I found the Korean interview script

Win?
The other team played well, but we practiced really hard and showed good games.

Lose?
Our play was disappointing. In the future we will practice harder and show the fans good games.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 05 2014 01:20 GMT
#2211
On October 05 2014 10:06 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 10:00 cLutZ wrote:
On October 05 2014 08:43 Ryuu314 wrote:
Giving more contextual questions is good interviewing technique generally though. It focuses the question and will generally elicit better, more in-depth and focused answers. When you ask general question, you typically get general answers, which doesn't make for good viewing.

The problem, however, is when you're interviewing someone who requires a translator, it's really hard to get direct one to one translation from interviewer to interviewee back to interviewer. You have to give up something. Either you give up directed, focused questions in favor of general, but easily and accurately translatable answers OR you continue asking focused questions, but get in-depth answers which will almost always lose something in the translation.


Well, the problem with saying "well you need to ask in depth questions to get in depth answers" is that no one gives good answers in these interviews because they are trained not to.

Hey, I found the Korean interview script

Win?
The other team played well, but we practiced really hard and showed good games.

Lose?
Our play was disappointing. In the future we will practice harder and show the fans good games.


Its not just Koreans, watch a midgame or postgame interview with even a talkative coach lie Doc Rivers, the dont give interviewers anything. And then there is the mastery of Gregg Popovich:

Freeeeeeedom
Marmy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Iran1697 Posts
October 05 2014 02:33 GMT
#2212
Prolly got benched for goldenglue... wtf
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
October 05 2014 02:46 GMT
#2213
On October 05 2014 10:06 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 10:00 cLutZ wrote:
On October 05 2014 08:43 Ryuu314 wrote:
Giving more contextual questions is good interviewing technique generally though. It focuses the question and will generally elicit better, more in-depth and focused answers. When you ask general question, you typically get general answers, which doesn't make for good viewing.

The problem, however, is when you're interviewing someone who requires a translator, it's really hard to get direct one to one translation from interviewer to interviewee back to interviewer. You have to give up something. Either you give up directed, focused questions in favor of general, but easily and accurately translatable answers OR you continue asking focused questions, but get in-depth answers which will almost always lose something in the translation.


Well, the problem with saying "well you need to ask in depth questions to get in depth answers" is that no one gives good answers in these interviews because they are trained not to.

Hey, I found the Korean interview script

Win?
The other team played well, but we practiced really hard and showed good games.

Lose?
Our play was disappointing. In the future we will practice harder and show the fans good games.


They should hire parting and mc for a seminar for league korean players.
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Cheren
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States2911 Posts
October 05 2014 02:52 GMT
#2214
On October 05 2014 11:46 stuchiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 10:06 Gahlo wrote:
On October 05 2014 10:00 cLutZ wrote:
On October 05 2014 08:43 Ryuu314 wrote:
Giving more contextual questions is good interviewing technique generally though. It focuses the question and will generally elicit better, more in-depth and focused answers. When you ask general question, you typically get general answers, which doesn't make for good viewing.

The problem, however, is when you're interviewing someone who requires a translator, it's really hard to get direct one to one translation from interviewer to interviewee back to interviewer. You have to give up something. Either you give up directed, focused questions in favor of general, but easily and accurately translatable answers OR you continue asking focused questions, but get in-depth answers which will almost always lose something in the translation.


Well, the problem with saying "well you need to ask in depth questions to get in depth answers" is that no one gives good answers in these interviews because they are trained not to.

Hey, I found the Korean interview script

Win?
The other team played well, but we practiced really hard and showed good games.

Lose?
Our play was disappointing. In the future we will practice harder and show the fans good games.


They should hire parting and mc for a seminar for league korean players.


No need, just send Locodoco back to Korea.
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 03:56:52
October 05 2014 02:56 GMT
#2215
On October 05 2014 05:38 Sufficiency wrote:
My impression of the C9 games:

C9 can only win against strong teams when they got sufficiently far ahead in the early game that Hai derping does not impact the game.


Am I the only one who feels American teams got tricked into thinking we are back in a league of assassins meta? I'm not saying Fizz and Zed are not good right now, I'm just saying that they are not season 3 levels of good. The current state of assassins in competitive play seems like if you get ahead they feel like old times but if your team is behind you are negated. If this is true then why would any American team ever pick an assassin mid against a Korean team? Even if you are super confident in a 60/40 chance of winning early the odds still don't seem good enough to bet the game on.

If I were the coach I would have advised C9 and TSM to always pick strong wave clear lane bully mids like Xerath, Orianna and Syndra.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
October 05 2014 04:23 GMT
#2216
6:23am, I'm ready for some action.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 05 2014 05:01 GMT
#2217
Intro is up. Hoping for Uzi to do some crazy things.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
October 05 2014 05:04 GMT
#2218
no korean team no monte????
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 05:05:51
October 05 2014 05:05 GMT
#2219
Nevermind.

Why only 4 people? No MonteCristerino?
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
October 05 2014 05:12 GMT
#2220
I cant take Doublelift's hair seriously LOL
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
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