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Unfounded matchfixing accusations are not welcome. Refrain from making off-the-wall accusations without concrete evidence.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 14:23:18
September 28 2014 14:19 GMT
#8221
On September 28 2014 23:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:14 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
C9 just choked under pressure, tbh.
They had this game if they executed properly.

And now they're getting 0-3'd by Blue.

Are you kidding? You really think they had the upper hand in this game when kassadin was just ramping up and pretty much just getting to a point where he could one destroy any split pusher? C9 were hoping for a miraculous fuck up on the side of NJWS and getting some sort of base trade scenario.


After they got inhibitor and nexus turret, it was their game, it gives incredible amount of pressure to NJWS, so they could just recover their gold deficit.
But instead they continued to dive for those inhibitors, suffering more, more and more casualties instead of slowing this game a bit, gold deficit wasn't that big to excuse bunch of Hai and Sneaky hail marys.


One pick using a zed and a kassadin 50 minutes in is enough to stop any pressure dead in its tracks and create a huge opening. Save wasn't retardedly using his TPs either and always had it if he needed to defend against it.

Split pushing and guerilla tactics only delays the game when your split pusher can't get past the other split pusher.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
September 28 2014 14:20 GMT
#8222
On September 28 2014 23:17 las91 wrote:
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On September 28 2014 23:15 BrownBear wrote:
Say what you will - the fact that C9 was able to 1-1 NJWS and play them close even in the loss, gives me hope that they won't get completely annhilated by Samsung Blue.

I don't think they'll win unless Dade goes full Dade, but losing 3-1 or even 3-2 is possible.


Considering their tendency to gift Zed to Korean mids while picking a really shitty Talon (Hai just doesn't look good on the champion) and getting really awful comps because of it I don't believe they will take a game off Blue.


Given Dade's record with Zed, though, I'd be surprised if they gave it to him the same way they gave it to Ggoong.
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loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
September 28 2014 14:22 GMT
#8223
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/2hor9t/noname_godlike_forgot_to_switch_smart_cast_on/ lol
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 28 2014 14:22 GMT
#8224
On September 28 2014 23:20 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:17 las91 wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:15 BrownBear wrote:
Say what you will - the fact that C9 was able to 1-1 NJWS and play them close even in the loss, gives me hope that they won't get completely annhilated by Samsung Blue.

I don't think they'll win unless Dade goes full Dade, but losing 3-1 or even 3-2 is possible.


Considering their tendency to gift Zed to Korean mids while picking a really shitty Talon (Hai just doesn't look good on the champion) and getting really awful comps because of it I don't believe they will take a game off Blue.


Given Dade's record with Zed, though, I'd be surprised if they gave it to him the same way they gave it to Ggoong.


They have weird pick/ban issues against Korean teams. I'm not sure what's going on, but they didn't look like the standard C9 in that phase of the game this group at all.
In Inca we trust
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 28 2014 14:23 GMT
#8225
33:17 Blue vs Red side.

66% winrate on blue side, cmon this is a real problem :/
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 14:26:01
September 28 2014 14:24 GMT
#8226
On September 28 2014 23:20 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:17 las91 wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:15 BrownBear wrote:
Say what you will - the fact that C9 was able to 1-1 NJWS and play them close even in the loss, gives me hope that they won't get completely annhilated by Samsung Blue.

I don't think they'll win unless Dade goes full Dade, but losing 3-1 or even 3-2 is possible.


Considering their tendency to gift Zed to Korean mids while picking a really shitty Talon (Hai just doesn't look good on the champion) and getting really awful comps because of it I don't believe they will take a game off Blue.


Given Dade's record with Zed, though, I'd be surprised if they gave it to him the same way they gave it to Ggoong.


blue looked not so focused to me here at worlds. They didn´t look too focused in the summer finals either. Maybe they just got ahead of themselves after they beat white twice in a row and think, they are the best anyways and stopped working hard for it. If that´s the case, then C9 have a good chance to win the series. If Blue practices hard for the match though and play like they did, when they won OGN, it will be a clean 3-0 or 3-1.

On September 28 2014 23:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
33:17 Blue vs Red side.

66% winrate on blue side, cmon this is a real problem :/


We have some ridiculous strong OP champs in the pool right now. So firstpick >> counterpick.
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
September 28 2014 14:24 GMT
#8227
NA vs CN on the semis and finals...
KR to be steamrolled at their own turf....
GODs will die Oct 6...
NA for the win~!
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ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
September 28 2014 14:25 GMT
#8228
On September 28 2014 23:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
33:17 Blue vs Red side.

66% winrate on blue side, cmon this is a real problem :/


I think a lot of it has to do with how pick/ban stage is done right now as well. c9 is a lot weaker on red side, and a lot of that is due to the drafting.
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
September 28 2014 14:25 GMT
#8229
there is no game for 3rd? :/
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
September 28 2014 14:26 GMT
#8230
On September 28 2014 23:25 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:23 The_Red_Viper wrote:
33:17 Blue vs Red side.

66% winrate on blue side, cmon this is a real problem :/


I think a lot of it has to do with how pick/ban stage is done right now as well. c9 is a lot weaker on red side, and a lot of that is due to the drafting.

Well yeah, there are a few reasons i think, drafting is one of them i guess
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
September 28 2014 14:27 GMT
#8231
Jokes aside, Monte is right.
Plus it's not bo3s but bo5s now, uh.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
September 28 2014 14:27 GMT
#8232
why is phreak on the analyst desk aHhHHhhHhHhhh
TSM
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 28 2014 14:28 GMT
#8233
On September 28 2014 23:18 Shikyo wrote:
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On September 28 2014 23:17 Sufficiency wrote:
Guys I just woke up. Group D is Najin and C9 right? What happened to Allliance???

They got destroyed by Kaboom.



Wtf hahahhahahahhahahahahaha



What happened to OMG? How did they get out of thr group?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 14:32:58
September 28 2014 14:30 GMT
#8234
On September 28 2014 23:28 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:18 Shikyo wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:17 Sufficiency wrote:
Guys I just woke up. Group D is Najin and C9 right? What happened to Allliance???

They got destroyed by Kaboom.



Wtf hahahhahahahhahahahahaha



What happened to OMG? How did they get out of thr group?


LMQ were only good on the first day. Fnatic lost their game yesterday, which guaranteed OMG to be playing for at least 2nd place today. Fnatic needed to beat Blue again, and LMQ needed to win against OMG for Fnatic to get to tiebreakers.

The game against LMQ today was decent. LMQ started strong(with first blood), but OMG had the better vision control which allowed them to control their early game much better. Loveling showed up again, and Kha'Zix is the last carry jungle left(this applies for the c9 vs Shield game too)
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 28 2014 14:34 GMT
#8235
God I feel that I missed out so much by dousing off last night.

Yesterday I was like meh C9 is over they have to beat Najin and THEN win some sort of tiebreaker against A to advance....


They A lost to BR and C9 wwon against Najin.....
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
September 28 2014 14:34 GMT
#8236
All korean teams leave as first seed, no eu teams advance. All is right with the world?
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
September 28 2014 14:35 GMT
#8237
On September 28 2014 23:34 Sufficiency wrote:
God I feel that I missed out so much by dousing off last night.

Yesterday I was like meh C9 is over they have to beat Najin and THEN win some sort of tiebreaker against A to advance....


They A lost to BR and C9 wwon against Najin.....


And they play Blue in brackets...

TSM is already dead, but C9 got a tiny shot at making semis.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 28 2014 14:35 GMT
#8238
On September 28 2014 23:34 Shiznick wrote:
All korean teams leave as first seed, no eu teams advance. All is right with the world?

Guess we'll need to wait until october 5 until we have an all-asian playoffs, too.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
September 28 2014 14:37 GMT
#8239
Also I'll be pretty disappointed if the finals will be a 3-0 again.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
September 28 2014 14:37 GMT
#8240
number of upvotes on the Kabum vs ALL reddit thread is effectively a spoiler lol
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