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Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
September 28 2014 14:38 GMT
#8241
On September 28 2014 23:37 419 wrote:
number of upvotes on the Kabum vs ALL reddit thread is effectively a spoiler lol

You can say that about every match. If Korean team beats Western team, there will be sub 1000 comments. If Western team beats Korean team, there will be > 2000 comments.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 28 2014 14:38 GMT
#8242
On September 28 2014 23:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:14 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
C9 just choked under pressure, tbh.
They had this game if they executed properly.

And now they're getting 0-3'd by Blue.

Are you kidding? You really think they had the upper hand in this game when kassadin was just ramping up and pretty much just getting to a point where he could one destroy any split pusher? C9 were hoping for a miraculous fuck up on the side of NJWS and getting some sort of base trade scenario.


After they got inhibitor and nexus turret, it was their game, it gives incredible amount of pressure to NJWS, so they could just recover their gold deficit.
But instead they continued to dive for those inhibitors, suffering more, more and more casualties instead of slowing this game a bit, gold deficit wasn't that big to excuse bunch of Hai and Sneaky hail marys.


They'd never have won straight-up. They had Hai on non-Zed, remember? Even worse, he was behind, and on Talon of all champions. They had to keep split-pushing anyway.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 28 2014 14:41 GMT
#8243
On September 28 2014 23:35 Doctorbeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:34 Sufficiency wrote:
God I feel that I missed out so much by dousing off last night.

Yesterday I was like meh C9 is over they have to beat Najin and THEN win some sort of tiebreaker against A to advance....


They A lost to BR and C9 wwon against Najin.....


And they play Blue in brackets...

TSM is already dead, but C9 got a tiny shot at making semis.


OK I think it was pretty amazing that C9 even made it out of the group. Unlike TSM, C9 was facing some actual challenges.
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ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 14:44:42
September 28 2014 14:42 GMT
#8244
On September 28 2014 23:17 Shikyo wrote:
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On September 28 2014 23:16 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Death timers and lack of buybacks in League = rat-killer
C9 had limited number of tries, the more the failed the more people died, the fatter Kass got, the longer the death timers got as well....

Still waiting for the revive/teleport splitpush comp.

I'm personally waiting for League-variation of DK's global comp.

ADC Ashe arrow into Jungle Pantheon/Nocturn ult into Top Glanplank ult into Mid Kathrus reqiuem/TF ult.
Skip the jungle ult if the target is too deep in enemy territory.

True Global Strat the Dream.

Edit: can swap Ashe out for any of the other global-ult-ADCs, but I like her for her risk-free stun to set things up like AA in DK's comp does.
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 28 2014 14:43 GMT
#8245
I feel like season 2 TSM did comps like that before
Glorious SEA doto
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 14:47:46
September 28 2014 14:45 GMT
#8246
On September 28 2014 23:43 Fusilero wrote:
I feel like season 2 TSM did comps like that before

Someone give me VODs, please.
Global strat is the most entertaining strat to me ever. (along with DK's zoo strat, but micro isn't a thing in League so I've given up on that)

edit: I might come back from VOD-watching as a TSM fans. /le horror(?)
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 28 2014 14:46 GMT
#8247
Karthus/Nocturne and Shen was their go to comp.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 14:48:05
September 28 2014 14:47 GMT
#8248
On September 28 2014 23:45 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:43 Fusilero wrote:
I feel like season 2 TSM did comps like that before

Someone give me VODs, please.
Global strat is the most entertaining strat to me ever. (along with DK's zoo strat, but micro isn't a thing in League so I've given up on that)


TSM was famous for their Shen, Nocturne, TF team comps even as late as last season. They never used Revive in them, though.

EDIT: Oh yeah, Karthus in place of TF as well.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
September 28 2014 14:48 GMT
#8249
ayy lmao can we just appreciate how good these last two groups were? So many highlights... we have Deft crying because Blue lost to fnatic, Rekkles crying after that ridiculous 70 minute game which came down to one auto attack, Xpeke's outplay vs. dade and then later that trade kill between the two, Kabum's win vs. Alliance, C9's win vs. Shield and then later the tiebreaker match where they almost won by splitpushing with a 5k+ gold deficit... this group stage has been better than basically all of last year's worlds combined.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 28 2014 14:49 GMT
#8250
On September 28 2014 23:48 IMoperator wrote:
ayy lmao can we just appreciate how good these last two groups were? So many highlights... we have Deft crying because Blue lost to fnatic, Rekkles crying after that ridiculous 70 minute game which came down to one auto attack, Xpeke's outplay vs. dade and then later that trade kill between the two, Kabum's win vs. Alliance, C9's win vs. Shield and then later the tiebreaker match where they almost won by splitpushing with a 5k+ gold deficit... this group stage has been better than basically all of last year's worlds combined.

Tbh SKT K made worlds boring last year "Oh look, another team got curb stomped in 20 by them". Fnatic vs Royal was legit, NJBS vs gambit, group B and C9 vs fnatic were fun (even if C9 vs FNC ended anti-climaticly)
Glorious SEA doto
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
September 28 2014 14:51 GMT
#8251
On September 28 2014 23:49 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:48 IMoperator wrote:
ayy lmao can we just appreciate how good these last two groups were? So many highlights... we have Deft crying because Blue lost to fnatic, Rekkles crying after that ridiculous 70 minute game which came down to one auto attack, Xpeke's outplay vs. dade and then later that trade kill between the two, Kabum's win vs. Alliance, C9's win vs. Shield and then later the tiebreaker match where they almost won by splitpushing with a 5k+ gold deficit... this group stage has been better than basically all of last year's worlds combined.

Tbh SKT K made worlds boring last year "Oh look, another team got curb stomped in 20 by them". Fnatic vs Royal was legit, NJBS vs gambit, group B and C9 vs fnatic were fun (even if C9 vs FNC ended anti-climaticly)

White is going to be the SKT T1 K of this tournament. They're going to curbstomp quarters, struggle in semis, curbstomp finals (if they make it through).
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 14:55:06
September 28 2014 14:53 GMT
#8252
On September 28 2014 23:48 IMoperator wrote:
ayy lmao can we just appreciate how good these last two groups were? So many highlights... we have Deft crying because Blue lost to fnatic, Rekkles crying after that ridiculous 70 minute game which came down to one auto attack, Xpeke's outplay vs. dade and then later that trade kill between the two, Kabum's win vs. Alliance, C9's win vs. Shield and then later the tiebreaker match where they almost won by splitpushing with a 5k+ gold deficit... this group stage has been better than basically all of last year's worlds combined.

S3 was pretty entertaining; it just had a boring stompy finals. Let's see if you'll hold the same sentiment if(when) SSW crushes their bracket and the final in the same way SKT did.

The lack of byes certainly does make S4 the better tournament, but you're selling S3 a little short here.

P.S. SSW get rid of your team-kill curse before the semis pls.
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 14:55:48
September 28 2014 14:55 GMT
#8253
On September 28 2014 23:38 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:15 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:14 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:12 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
C9 just choked under pressure, tbh.
They had this game if they executed properly.

And now they're getting 0-3'd by Blue.

Are you kidding? You really think they had the upper hand in this game when kassadin was just ramping up and pretty much just getting to a point where he could one destroy any split pusher? C9 were hoping for a miraculous fuck up on the side of NJWS and getting some sort of base trade scenario.


After they got inhibitor and nexus turret, it was their game, it gives incredible amount of pressure to NJWS, so they could just recover their gold deficit.
But instead they continued to dive for those inhibitors, suffering more, more and more casualties instead of slowing this game a bit, gold deficit wasn't that big to excuse bunch of Hai and Sneaky hail marys.


They'd never have won straight-up. They had Hai on non-Zed, remember? Even worse, he was behind, and on Talon of all champions. They had to keep split-pushing anyway.


Keeping splitpushing and hail mary diving inhibitors is slightly different thing, to say the least.

Anyway, now people will say that C9 might probably have a shot against Blue, meh.
Blue typically drop a game though, only time they won 3-0 in last 2 OGN season was against Stealths and Stealths, to say the least, should won at least 1 game there, if dade didn't carry Blue alone.

That said, only team to beat Blue in current roster in bo5 is KT A and this final is better to be forgotten asap.

On September 28 2014 23:51 Shiznick wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 23:49 Fusilero wrote:
On September 28 2014 23:48 IMoperator wrote:
ayy lmao can we just appreciate how good these last two groups were? So many highlights... we have Deft crying because Blue lost to fnatic, Rekkles crying after that ridiculous 70 minute game which came down to one auto attack, Xpeke's outplay vs. dade and then later that trade kill between the two, Kabum's win vs. Alliance, C9's win vs. Shield and then later the tiebreaker match where they almost won by splitpushing with a 5k+ gold deficit... this group stage has been better than basically all of last year's worlds combined.

Tbh SKT K made worlds boring last year "Oh look, another team got curb stomped in 20 by them". Fnatic vs Royal was legit, NJBS vs gambit, group B and C9 vs fnatic were fun (even if C9 vs FNC ended anti-climaticly)

White is going to be the SKT T1 K of this tournament. They're going to curbstomp quarters, struggle in semis, curbstomp finals (if they make it through).


PawN will choke, DanDy and imp will throw, Mata will cry a river because his team is worse than Blue.
1-3, as usual.
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sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
September 28 2014 15:06 GMT
#8254
C9 YEEEEESS!!

Thank you and God bless Brazil!
Forever Young
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 15:10:32
September 28 2014 15:09 GMT
#8255
Wow I am watching this Kabum vs Alliance right now...

Now THAT look matchfixed. Alliance either did not want to win, or thought that they could win despite being 4 towers behind.

User was warned for this post
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
September 28 2014 15:10 GMT
#8256
Weakest link of the western teams

Tsm got amazing and wildturtle

Alliance got wickd and nyph

Fnatic got cyanide and soaz

C9 got hai and lemonation


Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 28 2014 15:11 GMT
#8257
On September 29 2014 00:10 skykh wrote:
Weakest link of the western teams

Tsm got amazing and wildturtle

Alliance got wickd and nyph

Fnatic got cyanide and soaz

C9 got hai and lemonation




Sneaky looked a lot weaker than Hai or Lemonation today, and for most of the group stages. Some of his target choices were very questionable.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 28 2014 15:13 GMT
#8258
On September 29 2014 00:10 skykh wrote:
Weakest link of the western teams

Tsm got amazing and wildturtle

Alliance got wickd and nyph

Fnatic got cyanide and soaz

C9 got hai and lemonation




Are you saying that SK and LMQ have no weak links?
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 15:15:09
September 28 2014 15:14 GMT
#8259
On September 29 2014 00:13 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 00:10 skykh wrote:
Weakest link of the western teams

Tsm got amazing and wildturtle

Alliance got wickd and nyph

Fnatic got cyanide and soaz

C9 got hai and lemonation




Are you saying that SK and LMQ have no weak links?



Ackerman,Noname

Botlane,jesiz

But dada7 is the worst player in the tournament together with achie.
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 15:20:45
September 28 2014 15:17 GMT
#8260
On September 29 2014 00:14 skykh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 00:13 Kupon3ss wrote:
On September 29 2014 00:10 skykh wrote:
Weakest link of the western teams

Tsm got amazing and wildturtle

Alliance got wickd and nyph

Fnatic got cyanide and soaz

C9 got hai and lemonation




Are you saying that SK and LMQ have no weak links?



Ackerman,Noname

Botlane,jesiz

But dada7 is the worst player in the tournament together with achie.

dada7 vs gorilla hype?

Also, the funny thing about Wickd is that he is their strongest player when given Irelia, and their weakest when off of Irelia. Soaz, I think, is more disappointing than Wickd. For someone who was so touted for having a deep champion pool, and being excellent on AP champs, he sure didn't show it. But then again, I've never thought Soaz was anything special, so I may be biased.
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