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omg.... I did get the feel of awkwardness from the interview when it was conducted, but didn't think much of it at that time...
poor(?) imp xD
Thanks for sharing
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He was definitely getting answers through his earpiece, that or they told him to be humble.
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I look at the last few pages of this thread and I tell myself ... Roffles would never have let it come to this =(.
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Roffles died for our toxicity rip never forget
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On September 20 2014 06:45 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2014 06:22 Azarkon wrote:
It's pretty obvious the issue isn't genetics, as China and other Asian countries aren't nearly as successful as Korea and were we to remove Korea from the equation, every major region that invests in eSports is internationally competitive. The standout has been and remains Korea in all games. huh? korea is nonexistant in dota 2. and if you cant show me why leagues such as the NFL and NBA still have little to no asian players then you can't simply dismiss genetics.
Whenever I come across this argument about eSports success being genetic I ask the following questions:
Why is it that Korea, alone out of all countries, is heads and shoulders above the rest in eSports?
Why is it that Koreans born in America, Canada, Europe, etc. aren't equally successful in eSports?
I've never received answers that did not utterly break the limits of credibility.
Look at C9 and TSM, the two best teams in NA. Not a single Korean American/Canadian on them.
You know which Asian immigrant group is on them, though? Try Vietnamese - Hai, WildTurtle, Balls.
GPL op?
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On September 20 2014 08:43 Fusilero wrote:
Roffles died for our toxicity rip never forget
rip, never forget
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Are people really wondering why a nation which fully embraces competitive gaming as a real sport and has a professional infrastructure built around it dominates countries in which the same games are little more than a hobby?
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On September 20 2014 10:17 cuppatea wrote:
Are people really wondering why a nation which fully embraces competitive gaming as a real sport and has a professional infrastructure built around it dominates countries in which the same games are little more than a hobby?
Logic? That crap doesn't belong in these forums.
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Samsung's coach apparently just dismissed people's stupid misconceptions about Korean esports right now:
" I rather have someone who only practice 3 hours as obligated and yield result, than 10 hours but yield no results"
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the key is that they yield results; which is basically the opposite of the west in which streaming is king
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On September 20 2014 10:38 Kupon3ss wrote:
the key is that they yield results; which is basically the opposite of the west in which streaming is king
plz, viewership #'s is a result.
Just a different kind of result.
also, any recommended games from last night I should watch? didn't get a chance to watch rebroadcast today.
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SK vs SHRC was pretty good IMO.
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Lol the genetics thing is kind of silly. While they may play a small role (As they are a factor). I think its undeniable that the main reason Koreans dominate the scene is because of cultural differences and the fact that people have grown up with Esports.
Also unrelated can people recommend me the best games to watch for the new set. Sank you!!
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On September 20 2014 12:18 KissBlade wrote:
SK vs SHRC was pretty good IMO.
Lol saw this any more to recommend?
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On September 20 2014 12:26 jaybrundage wrote:Lol saw this any more to recommend?
just finished watching SK vs TPA, interesting how the game developed out imo.
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well im not referring to just koreans when i mention genetics, thats asinine lol. just people putting words in my mouth. chinese dominating dota 2 wouldnt make any sense then. just that things that take high reaction speeds and hand eye coordination are usually dominated by asians (ping pong and badminton comes to mind as well, moreso then tennis which requires a lot more physical prowess, which again, upholds my argument)
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On September 20 2014 13:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
well im not referring to just koreans when i mention genetics, thats asinine lol. just people putting words in my mouth. chinese dominating dota 2 wouldnt make any sense then. just that things that take high reaction speeds and hand eye coordination are usually dominated by asians (ping pong and badminton comes to mind as well, moreso then tennis which requires a lot more physical prowess, which again, upholds my argument)
Moreso that those sports are much more popular in those regions than elsewhere.
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On September 20 2014 06:45 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2014 06:22 Azarkon wrote:
It's pretty obvious the issue isn't genetics, as China and other Asian countries aren't nearly as successful as Korea and were we to remove Korea from the equation, every major region that invests in eSports is internationally competitive. The standout has been and remains Korea in all games. huh? korea is nonexistant in dota 2. and if you cant show me why leagues such as the NFL and NBA still have little to no asian players then you can't simply dismiss genetics.
Cultural differences play a pretty big role. First, you have to keep in mind that the US is basically the only country/culture in the world that plays American football. Then when you consider that Asians only make up a little over 5% of the population (according to 2013 census data) it's not too surprising that there are no Asians playing in the NFL and very very little in other pro sports leagues in the US.
Than you have to consider the fact that a large portion of Asians in the US are first or second generation. The whole "Asian parents" thing is not entirely untrue. Asian parents and families do put significant pressure on their children to pursue white collar careers. That is evidenced by the fact that Asians have a disproportionate representation in white collar jobs (or doctors). As a result, there's less Asian American children actively pursuing a career in sports, further diminishing Asian representation in professional sports leagues.
And then you have to add in racism/discrimination. You can't deny that Asians will be discriminated against in sports since Asians are typically seen as not athletic. During the Linsanity craze, Jeremy Lin talked a lot about his personal experiences regarding that.
I don't believe that Asians are simply "less athletic" than non-Asians. Otherwise China wouldn't win so many gold medals during the Olympics. This is not to say genetics don't play a role; they certainly do. Rather, there are a whole host of other factors that play into racial representation in pro sport leagues.
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On September 20 2014 13:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
well im not referring to just koreans when i mention genetics, thats asinine lol. just people putting words in my mouth. chinese dominating dota 2 wouldnt make any sense then. just that things that take high reaction speeds and hand eye coordination are usually dominated by asians (ping pong and badminton comes to mind as well, moreso then tennis which requires a lot more physical prowess, which again, upholds my argument)
A Japanese man made it to the US Open finals, overcoming the #1 seed, your tennis comment is invalid!!! + Show Spoiler +
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