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lulu is 1st pick worthy just because clg is getting rekt doesn't change that
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On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh. Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last.
That's why i'm confused? why keep picking lulu if kog is banned?
On July 06 2014 11:24 Slusher wrote:
lulu is 1st pick worthy just because clg is getting rekt doesn't change that
It is if you have the right ADC or top lane to go with it.
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On July 06 2014 11:23 Neverhood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives. And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway. Just cause u get outscaled in 1 lane doesn't mean u fight them early with a much weaker early game comp lol.
Tristana-TF is two lanes already.
And if you kill Doublelift in CLG comp, they don't have damage at all.
Plus, CLG can't play with LMQ like they do with Dignitas, those Chinese guys won't stay and wait until everything falls.
Dandel just secured his victory in fantasy, rofl.
On July 06 2014 11:25 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh. Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last. That's why i'm confused? why keep picking lulu if kog is banned? Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:24 Slusher wrote:
lulu is 1st pick worthy just because clg is getting rekt doesn't change that It is if you have the right ADC or top lane to go with it.
MINDGAMES.
Dunno why didn't they take TF just, clearly was a bait but this 4v4 skirmish just killed it.
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On July 06 2014 11:25 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh. Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last. That's why i'm confused? why keep picking lulu if kog is banned?
flex pick, near top tier at worst, basically 0 lane losing match ups
getting outplayed =/= lulu sucks out of nowhere
shes good with Twitch AND shyvana pls just give it up, they lost for reasons other than Lulu fp
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On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh. Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last. Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:23 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives. And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway. On July 06 2014 11:22 Slusher wrote:
IS THAT A BLOODTHIRSTER? haven't seen one of those in ages They're sieging, so it's ok. I dunno, if you play safe against LMQ they dive too hard and you can just counter gank them into oblivion. They don't have damage anyway. Only Doublelift deals something but lichbane Lulu and full tank Shyvana isn't something to be scared of.
Yeah, for sure, but the way LMQ usually tends to lose is teams read where they're trying to make over aggressive plays and punish it. CLG seemed to just look to slug it out instead of trying to catch LMQ diving or invading stupidly.
In an even situation they'd still lose, but if they got LMQ to overextend early LMQ tends to fall way behind.
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On July 06 2014 11:20 Shiznick wrote:
Has doublelift used his items? I feel like in the last two teamfights, he didn't use botrk or ghostblade active, but maybe I'm wrong.
I'm relatively certain he forgets to use items when he is focusing hard/trying to play from behind. I don't know if it's something he actively realizes and will fix, or if he doesn't realize he has this issue. I recall someone pointed this out in one of his games earlier in the LCS, but I don't remember which one(s).
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well last game was refreshing
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On July 06 2014 11:26 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:25 wei2coolman wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh. Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last. That's why i'm confused? why keep picking lulu if kog is banned? flex pick, near top tier at worst, basically 0 lane losing match ups getting outplayed =/= lulu sucks out of nowhere
lulu in mid. why. with no dmg anywhere else on that team. like wut.
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On July 06 2014 11:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:23 Neverhood wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives. And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway. Just cause u get outscaled in 1 lane doesn't mean u fight them early with a much weaker early game comp lol. Tristana-TF is two lanes already. And if you kill Doublelift in CLG comp, they don't have damage at all. Plus, CLG can't play with LMQ like they do with Dignitas, those Chinese guys won't stay and wait until everything falls. Dandel just secured his victory in fantasy, rofl.
Lulu doesn't get outscaled by TF. All CLG had to do was not try to fight that early fight mid and they would've been perfectly fine going into mid game. Even with that disaster early fight u could still see how close the team fights were.
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On July 06 2014 11:26 Swords wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh. Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last. On July 06 2014 11:23 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives. And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway. On July 06 2014 11:22 Slusher wrote:
IS THAT A BLOODTHIRSTER? haven't seen one of those in ages They're sieging, so it's ok. I dunno, if you play safe against LMQ they dive too hard and you can just counter gank them into oblivion. They don't have damage anyway. Only Doublelift deals something but lichbane Lulu and full tank Shyvana isn't something to be scared of. Yeah, for sure, but the way LMQ usually tends to lose is teams read where they're trying to make over aggressive plays and punish it. CLG seemed to just look to slug it out instead of trying to catch LMQ diving or invading stupidly. In an even situation they'd still lose, but if they got LMQ to overextend early LMQ tends to fall way behind.
LMQ tends to lose games where they're getting outscaled anyway. Like with those slugfests against C9, when LMQ destroys early game and then throws the shit of this game.
Okay, boys and girls, 6-30 am in Moscow, we're done. CLG, why you do it for me ;_;
Poll: CLG - LMQ- Excellent game (3) 38% - Good game (2) 25% - Mediocre game (2) 25% - Never watch it, ever. (1) 13% - Bad game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: CLG - LMQ (Vote): - Excellent game
(Vote): - Good game
(Vote): - Mediocre game
(Vote): - Bad game
(Vote): - Never watch it, ever.
On July 06 2014 11:28 Neverhood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 Neverhood wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives. And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway. Just cause u get outscaled in 1 lane doesn't mean u fight them early with a much weaker early game comp lol. Tristana-TF is two lanes already. And if you kill Doublelift in CLG comp, they don't have damage at all. Plus, CLG can't play with LMQ like they do with Dignitas, those Chinese guys won't stay and wait until everything falls. Dandel just secured his victory in fantasy, rofl. Lulu doesn't get outscaled by TF. All CLG had to do was not try to fight that early fight mid and they would've been perfectly fine going into mid game. Even with that disaster early fight u could still see how close the team fights were.
Lulu is all about peeling for carries in late game, not dealing damage and TF can oneshot Doublelift with dfg late game, not even caring about Lulu.
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On July 06 2014 11:27 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:26 Slusher wrote:On July 06 2014 11:25 wei2coolman wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh. Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last. That's why i'm confused? why keep picking lulu if kog is banned? flex pick, near top tier at worst, basically 0 lane losing match ups getting outplayed =/= lulu sucks out of nowhere lulu in mid. why. with no dmg anywhere else on that team. like wut.
It is good but he needed to run ignite so he can bully tf.His tp didn't do anything.Let's not forget clg kinda uber fed at start too.
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On July 06 2014 11:28 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:26 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh. Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last. On July 06 2014 11:23 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives. And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway. On July 06 2014 11:22 Slusher wrote:
IS THAT A BLOODTHIRSTER? haven't seen one of those in ages They're sieging, so it's ok. I dunno, if you play safe against LMQ they dive too hard and you can just counter gank them into oblivion. They don't have damage anyway. Only Doublelift deals something but lichbane Lulu and full tank Shyvana isn't something to be scared of. Yeah, for sure, but the way LMQ usually tends to lose is teams read where they're trying to make over aggressive plays and punish it. CLG seemed to just look to slug it out instead of trying to catch LMQ diving or invading stupidly. In an even situation they'd still lose, but if they got LMQ to overextend early LMQ tends to fall way behind. LMQ tends to lose games where they're getting outscaled anyway. Like with those slugfests against C9, when LMQ destroys early game and then throws the shit of this game. Okay, boys and girls, 6-30 am in Moscow, we're done. CLG, why you do it for me ;_; Poll: CLG - LMQ- Excellent game (3) 38% - Good game (2) 25% - Mediocre game (2) 25% - Never watch it, ever. (1) 13% - Bad game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: CLG - LMQ (Vote): - Excellent game
(Vote): - Good game
(Vote): - Mediocre game
(Vote): - Bad game
(Vote): - Never watch it, ever.
Yeah definitely, picking no late damage aside from Twitch made it very hard for them in the first place.
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look ofc this was not a good look for CLG but blaming lulu fp, one of the best possible champions to fp in the game currently is misguided.
also Aphro is one of the few supports who still breaks her out as support so it's a triple ambigious threat
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Lulu mid/Shyv top is a great combo, CLG played it bad, I dunno what you guys are talking about. The TP on Lulu didn't help though, that's for sure
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On July 06 2014 11:28 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:26 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh. Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last. On July 06 2014 11:23 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives. And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway. On July 06 2014 11:22 Slusher wrote:
IS THAT A BLOODTHIRSTER? haven't seen one of those in ages They're sieging, so it's ok. I dunno, if you play safe against LMQ they dive too hard and you can just counter gank them into oblivion. They don't have damage anyway. Only Doublelift deals something but lichbane Lulu and full tank Shyvana isn't something to be scared of. Yeah, for sure, but the way LMQ usually tends to lose is teams read where they're trying to make over aggressive plays and punish it. CLG seemed to just look to slug it out instead of trying to catch LMQ diving or invading stupidly. In an even situation they'd still lose, but if they got LMQ to overextend early LMQ tends to fall way behind. LMQ tends to lose games where they're getting outscaled anyway. Like with those slugfests against C9, when LMQ destroys early game and then throws the shit of this game. Okay, boys and girls, 6-30 am in Moscow, we're done. CLG, why you do it for me ;_; Poll: CLG - LMQ- Excellent game (3) 38% - Good game (2) 25% - Mediocre game (2) 25% - Never watch it, ever. (1) 13% - Bad game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: CLG - LMQ (Vote): - Excellent game
(Vote): - Good game
(Vote): - Mediocre game
(Vote): - Bad game
(Vote): - Never watch it, ever.
Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:28 Neverhood wrote:On July 06 2014 11:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 Neverhood wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives. And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway. Just cause u get outscaled in 1 lane doesn't mean u fight them early with a much weaker early game comp lol. Tristana-TF is two lanes already. And if you kill Doublelift in CLG comp, they don't have damage at all. Plus, CLG can't play with LMQ like they do with Dignitas, those Chinese guys won't stay and wait until everything falls. Dandel just secured his victory in fantasy, rofl. Lulu doesn't get outscaled by TF. All CLG had to do was not try to fight that early fight mid and they would've been perfectly fine going into mid game. Even with that disaster early fight u could still see how close the team fights were. Lulu is all about peeling for carries in late game, not dealing damage and TF can oneshot Doublelift with dfg late game, not even caring about Lulu.
Outscaling doesn't just mean just doing more dmg. His shields, ult and overall utility scale extremely well into lategame. Definitely doesn't fall off against someone like TF.
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when the best answer you can come up with is lulu is a bad champion chances are one team just got outplayed.
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On July 06 2014 11:30 Slusher wrote:
look ofc this was not a good look for CLG but blaming lulu fp, one of the best possible champions to fp in the game currently is misguided.
also Aphro is one of the few supports who still breaks her out as support so it's a triple ambigious threat
They could pick TF first and play same game as against C9, just giving Lulu and Tristana instead of Kayle and Kog'Maw.
LMQ peeled perfectly for Vasilii this game, if he died at least once when he was on the brink, CLG would have rolled over.
Didn't happen, CLG lost. Anyway, valiant effort.
I'm ok with CLG losing until they're not looking completely clueless and lost like C9 right now. It means that they're in good shape.
On July 06 2014 11:32 Neverhood wrote:Show nested quote +On July 06 2014 11:28 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:26 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh. Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last. On July 06 2014 11:23 Swords wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives. And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway. On July 06 2014 11:22 Slusher wrote:
IS THAT A BLOODTHIRSTER? haven't seen one of those in ages They're sieging, so it's ok. I dunno, if you play safe against LMQ they dive too hard and you can just counter gank them into oblivion. They don't have damage anyway. Only Doublelift deals something but lichbane Lulu and full tank Shyvana isn't something to be scared of. Yeah, for sure, but the way LMQ usually tends to lose is teams read where they're trying to make over aggressive plays and punish it. CLG seemed to just look to slug it out instead of trying to catch LMQ diving or invading stupidly. In an even situation they'd still lose, but if they got LMQ to overextend early LMQ tends to fall way behind. LMQ tends to lose games where they're getting outscaled anyway. Like with those slugfests against C9, when LMQ destroys early game and then throws the shit of this game. Okay, boys and girls, 6-30 am in Moscow, we're done. CLG, why you do it for me ;_; Poll: CLG - LMQ- Excellent game (3) 38% - Good game (2) 25% - Mediocre game (2) 25% - Never watch it, ever. (1) 13% - Bad game (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: CLG - LMQ (Vote): - Excellent game
(Vote): - Good game
(Vote): - Mediocre game
(Vote): - Bad game
(Vote): - Never watch it, ever.
On July 06 2014 11:28 Neverhood wrote:On July 06 2014 11:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:23 Neverhood wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives. And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway. Just cause u get outscaled in 1 lane doesn't mean u fight them early with a much weaker early game comp lol. Tristana-TF is two lanes already. And if you kill Doublelift in CLG comp, they don't have damage at all. Plus, CLG can't play with LMQ like they do with Dignitas, those Chinese guys won't stay and wait until everything falls. Dandel just secured his victory in fantasy, rofl. Lulu doesn't get outscaled by TF. All CLG had to do was not try to fight that early fight mid and they would've been perfectly fine going into mid game. Even with that disaster early fight u could still see how close the team fights were. Lulu is all about peeling for carries in late game, not dealing damage and TF can oneshot Doublelift with dfg late game, not even caring about Lulu. Outscaling doesn't just mean just doing more dmg. His shields, ult and overall utility scale extremely well into lategame. Definitely doesn't fall off against someone like TF.
But it doesn't mean thing if Liftlift dies instantly, right?
On July 06 2014 11:37 Slusher wrote:
I don't think NA TF is even close to priority over Lulu
After how hard Link humiliated C9? I will take his TF 99/100 times over any Lulu in CLG comp.
Also, when Syndra, Yasuo, Kassadin and Kayle are banned, you can play TF into everything.
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I don't think NA TF is even close to priority over Lulu, especially vs. xwx who I'm sure knows how to play at least one of the TF counters.
like TF isn't a bad first pick, but to claim it is definitive better than Lulu fp?? no.
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On July 06 2014 11:37 Slusher wrote:
I don't think NA TF is even close to priority over Lulu, especially vs. xwx who I'm sure knows how to play at least one of the TF counters
Lulu priority is fine if they ran jax top. Or ran lulu top with something strong in mid.
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Hope COL and C9 win tomorrow. Dig has to go down!!!
Sadly we won't see 2-2 everybody in this week, since EG already lost 3 
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