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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 02:42:17
July 06 2014 02:41 GMT
#1021
at least I know with wonderful I know he's a clg fanboy so he's trying to rationalize the loss, and that's cool I'm that way with dig (and anti with curse). But to the others blaming Lulu fp, they played their comp poorly Shy AND Twitch are good with Lulu you guys are nuts.
Carrilord has arrived.
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
July 06 2014 02:42 GMT
#1022
On July 06 2014 11:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 11:30 Slusher wrote:
look ofc this was not a good look for CLG but blaming lulu fp, one of the best possible champions to fp in the game currently is misguided.

also Aphro is one of the few supports who still breaks her out as support so it's a triple ambigious threat


They could pick TF first and play same game as against C9, just giving Lulu and Tristana instead of Kayle and Kog'Maw.

LMQ peeled perfectly for Vasilii this game, if he died at least once when he was on the brink, CLG would have rolled over.
Didn't happen, CLG lost. Anyway, valiant effort.
I'm ok with CLG losing until they're not looking completely clueless and lost like C9 right now. It means that they're in good shape.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 11:32 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:28 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:26 Swords wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh.


Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last.

On July 06 2014 11:23 Swords wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives.


And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway.

On July 06 2014 11:22 Slusher wrote:
IS THAT A BLOODTHIRSTER? haven't seen one of those in ages


They're sieging, so it's ok.


I dunno, if you play safe against LMQ they dive too hard and you can just counter gank them into oblivion.


They don't have damage anyway.
Only Doublelift deals something but lichbane Lulu and full tank Shyvana isn't something to be scared of.


Yeah, for sure, but the way LMQ usually tends to lose is teams read where they're trying to make over aggressive plays and punish it. CLG seemed to just look to slug it out instead of trying to catch LMQ diving or invading stupidly.

In an even situation they'd still lose, but if they got LMQ to overextend early LMQ tends to fall way behind.


LMQ tends to lose games where they're getting outscaled anyway. Like with those slugfests against C9, when LMQ destroys early game and then throws the shit of this game.

Okay, boys and girls, 6-30 am in Moscow, we're done. CLG, why you do it for me ;_;

Poll: CLG - LMQ

- Excellent game (3)
 
38%

- Good game (2)
 
25%

- Mediocre game (2)
 
25%

- Never watch it, ever. (1)
 
13%

- Bad game (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: CLG - LMQ

(Vote): - Excellent game
(Vote): - Good game
(Vote): - Mediocre game
(Vote): - Bad game
(Vote): - Never watch it, ever.




On July 06 2014 11:28 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:23 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives.


And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway.

Just cause u get outscaled in 1 lane doesn't mean u fight them early with a much weaker early game comp lol.


Tristana-TF is two lanes already.

And if you kill Doublelift in CLG comp, they don't have damage at all.
Plus, CLG can't play with LMQ like they do with Dignitas, those Chinese guys won't stay and wait until everything falls.

Dandel just secured his victory in fantasy, rofl.

Lulu doesn't get outscaled by TF. All CLG had to do was not try to fight that early fight mid and they would've been perfectly fine going into mid game. Even with that disaster early fight u could still see how close the team fights were.


Lulu is all about peeling for carries in late game, not dealing damage and TF can oneshot Doublelift with dfg late game, not even caring about Lulu.


Outscaling doesn't just mean just doing more dmg. His shields, ult and overall utility scale extremely well into lategame. Definitely doesn't fall off against someone like TF.


But it doesn't mean thing if Liftlift dies instantly, right?

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 11:37 Slusher wrote:
I don't think NA TF is even close to priority over Lulu


After how hard Link humiliated C9? I will take his TF 99/100 times over any Lulu in CLG comp.
Also, when Syndra, Yasuo, Kassadin and Kayle are banned, you can play TF into everything.

The whole point of Lulu is to prevent Dlift from dying lol, TF's late game dmg can't even break through lulu shield and ult. You're acting like late game TF just ports on twitch and 1 shots him b/c he outscales lulu so hard...which doesn't happen at all.
Jaedong :D
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 02:47:35
July 06 2014 02:46 GMT
#1023
On July 06 2014 11:42 Neverhood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 11:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:30 Slusher wrote:
look ofc this was not a good look for CLG but blaming lulu fp, one of the best possible champions to fp in the game currently is misguided.

also Aphro is one of the few supports who still breaks her out as support so it's a triple ambigious threat


They could pick TF first and play same game as against C9, just giving Lulu and Tristana instead of Kayle and Kog'Maw.

LMQ peeled perfectly for Vasilii this game, if he died at least once when he was on the brink, CLG would have rolled over.
Didn't happen, CLG lost. Anyway, valiant effort.
I'm ok with CLG losing until they're not looking completely clueless and lost like C9 right now. It means that they're in good shape.

On July 06 2014 11:32 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:28 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:26 Swords wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh.


Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last.

On July 06 2014 11:23 Swords wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives.


And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway.

On July 06 2014 11:22 Slusher wrote:
IS THAT A BLOODTHIRSTER? haven't seen one of those in ages


They're sieging, so it's ok.


I dunno, if you play safe against LMQ they dive too hard and you can just counter gank them into oblivion.


They don't have damage anyway.
Only Doublelift deals something but lichbane Lulu and full tank Shyvana isn't something to be scared of.


Yeah, for sure, but the way LMQ usually tends to lose is teams read where they're trying to make over aggressive plays and punish it. CLG seemed to just look to slug it out instead of trying to catch LMQ diving or invading stupidly.

In an even situation they'd still lose, but if they got LMQ to overextend early LMQ tends to fall way behind.


LMQ tends to lose games where they're getting outscaled anyway. Like with those slugfests against C9, when LMQ destroys early game and then throws the shit of this game.

Okay, boys and girls, 6-30 am in Moscow, we're done. CLG, why you do it for me ;_;

Poll: CLG - LMQ

- Excellent game (3)
 
38%

- Good game (2)
 
25%

- Mediocre game (2)
 
25%

- Never watch it, ever. (1)
 
13%

- Bad game (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: CLG - LMQ

(Vote): - Excellent game
(Vote): - Good game
(Vote): - Mediocre game
(Vote): - Bad game
(Vote): - Never watch it, ever.




On July 06 2014 11:28 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:23 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives.


And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway.

Just cause u get outscaled in 1 lane doesn't mean u fight them early with a much weaker early game comp lol.


Tristana-TF is two lanes already.

And if you kill Doublelift in CLG comp, they don't have damage at all.
Plus, CLG can't play with LMQ like they do with Dignitas, those Chinese guys won't stay and wait until everything falls.

Dandel just secured his victory in fantasy, rofl.

Lulu doesn't get outscaled by TF. All CLG had to do was not try to fight that early fight mid and they would've been perfectly fine going into mid game. Even with that disaster early fight u could still see how close the team fights were.


Lulu is all about peeling for carries in late game, not dealing damage and TF can oneshot Doublelift with dfg late game, not even caring about Lulu.


Outscaling doesn't just mean just doing more dmg. His shields, ult and overall utility scale extremely well into lategame. Definitely doesn't fall off against someone like TF.


But it doesn't mean thing if Liftlift dies instantly, right?

On July 06 2014 11:37 Slusher wrote:
I don't think NA TF is even close to priority over Lulu


After how hard Link humiliated C9? I will take his TF 99/100 times over any Lulu in CLG comp.
Also, when Syndra, Yasuo, Kassadin and Kayle are banned, you can play TF into everything.

The whole point of Lulu is to prevent Dlift from dying lol, TF's late game dmg can't even break through lulu shield and ult. You're acting like late game TF just ports on twitch and 1 shots him b/c he outscales lulu so hard...which doesn't happen at all.


I just know how Doublelift dies and where he usually dies.
Also it's not hard to get dfg TF and focus Lulu first + exhaust Twitch.

And Tristana won't die anyway having those shields, Nami and Lee Sin ahead of her. Or behind, considering how Vasilii jumps.

Who can CLG focus? Nami? TF will just hourglass and ghost after it to reposition, Tristana is well-protected and it's not like tidal wave disengage cd is > wild growth cd to get those windows at least.

On July 06 2014 11:41 Slusher wrote:
at least I know with wonderful I know he's a clg fanboy so he's trying to rationalize the loss, and that's cool I'm that way with dig (and anti with curse). But to the others blaming Lulu fp, they played their comp poorly Shy AND Twitch are good with Lulu you guys are nuts.


Honestly, they played it pretty well considering what happened early in this game and that CLG weren't able to get at least one from those three dragons.

Noone says that it's bad, LMQ comp was just better in dealing damage.
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Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
July 06 2014 02:46 GMT
#1024
Getting those wins tomorrow would be huge for Dig... which of course means they won't get them.
Neverhood
Profile Joined August 2009
United States5388 Posts
July 06 2014 02:53 GMT
#1025
On July 06 2014 11:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 11:42 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:30 Slusher wrote:
look ofc this was not a good look for CLG but blaming lulu fp, one of the best possible champions to fp in the game currently is misguided.

also Aphro is one of the few supports who still breaks her out as support so it's a triple ambigious threat


They could pick TF first and play same game as against C9, just giving Lulu and Tristana instead of Kayle and Kog'Maw.

LMQ peeled perfectly for Vasilii this game, if he died at least once when he was on the brink, CLG would have rolled over.
Didn't happen, CLG lost. Anyway, valiant effort.
I'm ok with CLG losing until they're not looking completely clueless and lost like C9 right now. It means that they're in good shape.

On July 06 2014 11:32 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:28 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:26 Swords wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh.


Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last.

On July 06 2014 11:23 Swords wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives.


And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway.

On July 06 2014 11:22 Slusher wrote:
IS THAT A BLOODTHIRSTER? haven't seen one of those in ages


They're sieging, so it's ok.


I dunno, if you play safe against LMQ they dive too hard and you can just counter gank them into oblivion.


They don't have damage anyway.
Only Doublelift deals something but lichbane Lulu and full tank Shyvana isn't something to be scared of.


Yeah, for sure, but the way LMQ usually tends to lose is teams read where they're trying to make over aggressive plays and punish it. CLG seemed to just look to slug it out instead of trying to catch LMQ diving or invading stupidly.

In an even situation they'd still lose, but if they got LMQ to overextend early LMQ tends to fall way behind.


LMQ tends to lose games where they're getting outscaled anyway. Like with those slugfests against C9, when LMQ destroys early game and then throws the shit of this game.

Okay, boys and girls, 6-30 am in Moscow, we're done. CLG, why you do it for me ;_;

Poll: CLG - LMQ

- Excellent game (3)
 
38%

- Good game (2)
 
25%

- Mediocre game (2)
 
25%

- Never watch it, ever. (1)
 
13%

- Bad game (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: CLG - LMQ

(Vote): - Excellent game
(Vote): - Good game
(Vote): - Mediocre game
(Vote): - Bad game
(Vote): - Never watch it, ever.




On July 06 2014 11:28 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:23 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 Neverhood wrote:
CLG played straight into LMQ's playstyle with the early skirmishes. They should have just farmed safely and played for objectives.


And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway.

Just cause u get outscaled in 1 lane doesn't mean u fight them early with a much weaker early game comp lol.


Tristana-TF is two lanes already.

And if you kill Doublelift in CLG comp, they don't have damage at all.
Plus, CLG can't play with LMQ like they do with Dignitas, those Chinese guys won't stay and wait until everything falls.

Dandel just secured his victory in fantasy, rofl.

Lulu doesn't get outscaled by TF. All CLG had to do was not try to fight that early fight mid and they would've been perfectly fine going into mid game. Even with that disaster early fight u could still see how close the team fights were.


Lulu is all about peeling for carries in late game, not dealing damage and TF can oneshot Doublelift with dfg late game, not even caring about Lulu.


Outscaling doesn't just mean just doing more dmg. His shields, ult and overall utility scale extremely well into lategame. Definitely doesn't fall off against someone like TF.


But it doesn't mean thing if Liftlift dies instantly, right?

On July 06 2014 11:37 Slusher wrote:
I don't think NA TF is even close to priority over Lulu


After how hard Link humiliated C9? I will take his TF 99/100 times over any Lulu in CLG comp.
Also, when Syndra, Yasuo, Kassadin and Kayle are banned, you can play TF into everything.

The whole point of Lulu is to prevent Dlift from dying lol, TF's late game dmg can't even break through lulu shield and ult. You're acting like late game TF just ports on twitch and 1 shots him b/c he outscales lulu so hard...which doesn't happen at all.


I just know how Doublelift dies and where he usually dies.
Also it's not hard to get dfg TF and focus Lulu first + exhaust Twitch.

And Tristana won't die anyway having those shields, Nami and Lee Sin ahead of her. Or behind, considering how Vasilii jumps.

Who can CLG focus? Nami? TF will just hourglass and ghost after it to reposition, Tristana is well-protected and it's not like tidal wave disengage cd is > wild growth cd to get those windows at least.

Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 11:41 Slusher wrote:
at least I know with wonderful I know he's a clg fanboy so he's trying to rationalize the loss, and that's cool I'm that way with dig (and anti with curse). But to the others blaming Lulu fp, they played their comp poorly Shy AND Twitch are good with Lulu you guys are nuts.


Honestly, they played it pretty well considering what happened early in this game and that CLG weren't able to get at least one from those three dragons.

Noone says that it's bad, LMQ comp was just better in dealing damage.

You are giving LMQ way too much credit and CLG too little lol. U say u know how DL always dies...have you seen vasili? He fucks up more often than just about any1 else.

Bottom line is CLG's comp was completely fine, they just played their early game with the comp like shit this time.
Jaedong :D
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 03:04:55
July 06 2014 02:59 GMT
#1026
On July 06 2014 11:53 Neverhood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 11:46 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:42 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:35 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:30 Slusher wrote:
look ofc this was not a good look for CLG but blaming lulu fp, one of the best possible champions to fp in the game currently is misguided.

also Aphro is one of the few supports who still breaks her out as support so it's a triple ambigious threat


They could pick TF first and play same game as against C9, just giving Lulu and Tristana instead of Kayle and Kog'Maw.

LMQ peeled perfectly for Vasilii this game, if he died at least once when he was on the brink, CLG would have rolled over.
Didn't happen, CLG lost. Anyway, valiant effort.
I'm ok with CLG losing until they're not looking completely clueless and lost like C9 right now. It means that they're in good shape.

On July 06 2014 11:32 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:28 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:26 Swords wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:23 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:23 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm seriously curious as to why CLG first picked lulu without a fucking kogmaw or tristana. Like wut, and not a toplane one at that? like wtf CLG. your pick ban.... guh.


Kog'Maw was banned. I guess, they were going to him with those bans but LMQ banned him last.

On July 06 2014 11:23 Swords wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
[quote]

And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway.

[quote]

They're sieging, so it's ok.


I dunno, if you play safe against LMQ they dive too hard and you can just counter gank them into oblivion.


They don't have damage anyway.
Only Doublelift deals something but lichbane Lulu and full tank Shyvana isn't something to be scared of.


Yeah, for sure, but the way LMQ usually tends to lose is teams read where they're trying to make over aggressive plays and punish it. CLG seemed to just look to slug it out instead of trying to catch LMQ diving or invading stupidly.

In an even situation they'd still lose, but if they got LMQ to overextend early LMQ tends to fall way behind.


LMQ tends to lose games where they're getting outscaled anyway. Like with those slugfests against C9, when LMQ destroys early game and then throws the shit of this game.

Okay, boys and girls, 6-30 am in Moscow, we're done. CLG, why you do it for me ;_;

Poll: CLG - LMQ

- Excellent game (3)
 
38%

- Good game (2)
 
25%

- Mediocre game (2)
 
25%

- Never watch it, ever. (1)
 
13%

- Bad game (0)
 
0%

8 total votes

Your vote: CLG - LMQ

(Vote): - Excellent game
(Vote): - Good game
(Vote): - Mediocre game
(Vote): - Bad game
(Vote): - Never watch it, ever.




On July 06 2014 11:28 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:23 Neverhood wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:22 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
[quote]

And get outscaled by Tristana-TF anyway.

Just cause u get outscaled in 1 lane doesn't mean u fight them early with a much weaker early game comp lol.


Tristana-TF is two lanes already.

And if you kill Doublelift in CLG comp, they don't have damage at all.
Plus, CLG can't play with LMQ like they do with Dignitas, those Chinese guys won't stay and wait until everything falls.

Dandel just secured his victory in fantasy, rofl.

Lulu doesn't get outscaled by TF. All CLG had to do was not try to fight that early fight mid and they would've been perfectly fine going into mid game. Even with that disaster early fight u could still see how close the team fights were.


Lulu is all about peeling for carries in late game, not dealing damage and TF can oneshot Doublelift with dfg late game, not even caring about Lulu.


Outscaling doesn't just mean just doing more dmg. His shields, ult and overall utility scale extremely well into lategame. Definitely doesn't fall off against someone like TF.


But it doesn't mean thing if Liftlift dies instantly, right?

On July 06 2014 11:37 Slusher wrote:
I don't think NA TF is even close to priority over Lulu


After how hard Link humiliated C9? I will take his TF 99/100 times over any Lulu in CLG comp.
Also, when Syndra, Yasuo, Kassadin and Kayle are banned, you can play TF into everything.

The whole point of Lulu is to prevent Dlift from dying lol, TF's late game dmg can't even break through lulu shield and ult. You're acting like late game TF just ports on twitch and 1 shots him b/c he outscales lulu so hard...which doesn't happen at all.


I just know how Doublelift dies and where he usually dies.
Also it's not hard to get dfg TF and focus Lulu first + exhaust Twitch.

And Tristana won't die anyway having those shields, Nami and Lee Sin ahead of her. Or behind, considering how Vasilii jumps.

Who can CLG focus? Nami? TF will just hourglass and ghost after it to reposition, Tristana is well-protected and it's not like tidal wave disengage cd is > wild growth cd to get those windows at least.

On July 06 2014 11:41 Slusher wrote:
at least I know with wonderful I know he's a clg fanboy so he's trying to rationalize the loss, and that's cool I'm that way with dig (and anti with curse). But to the others blaming Lulu fp, they played their comp poorly Shy AND Twitch are good with Lulu you guys are nuts.


Honestly, they played it pretty well considering what happened early in this game and that CLG weren't able to get at least one from those three dragons.

Noone says that it's bad, LMQ comp was just better in dealing damage.

You are giving LMQ way too much credit and CLG too little lol. U say u know how DL always dies...have you seen vasili? He fucks up more often than just about any1 else.

Bottom line is CLG's comp was completely fine, they just played their early game with the comp like shit this time.


I never said that Doublelift always dies, i just know everything about his in-game habits after those 4 years :D

LMQ played their advantage perfectly and never let it slip away. Dare they lose Vasilii once or dragon once - let CLG get something and they will get everything. And i'm CLG fanboy as you could read above.

I'm just not a fan of not giving enough credit to teams who deserve it. LMQ might be 5th team in NA or probably 4, if C9 are 5th, rofl, but they can show some real skillz.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 06 2014 03:07 GMT
#1027
On July 06 2014 11:41 Slusher wrote:
at least I know with wonderful I know he's a clg fanboy so he's trying to rationalize the loss, and that's cool I'm that way with dig (and anti with curse). But to the others blaming Lulu fp, they played their comp poorly Shy AND Twitch are good with Lulu you guys are nuts.

shy lulu, twitch were good like 2 patches ago.
liftlift > tsm
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
July 06 2014 03:39 GMT
#1028
On July 06 2014 12:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 11:41 Slusher wrote:
at least I know with wonderful I know he's a clg fanboy so he's trying to rationalize the loss, and that's cool I'm that way with dig (and anti with curse). But to the others blaming Lulu fp, they played their comp poorly Shy AND Twitch are good with Lulu you guys are nuts.

shy lulu, twitch were good like 2 patches ago.


Nah, you just ned a bit of damage from both and good teamfighting. Building Shyv full tank and get early lichbane on Lulu were poor choices. The combo Shyv ult/Lulu ult is still incredibly powerful, but CLG threw that game MLB style
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 06 2014 04:07 GMT
#1029
On July 06 2014 12:39 Anakko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:41 Slusher wrote:
at least I know with wonderful I know he's a clg fanboy so he's trying to rationalize the loss, and that's cool I'm that way with dig (and anti with curse). But to the others blaming Lulu fp, they played their comp poorly Shy AND Twitch are good with Lulu you guys are nuts.

shy lulu, twitch were good like 2 patches ago.


Nah, you just ned a bit of damage from both and good teamfighting. Building Shyv full tank and get early lichbane on Lulu were poor choices. The combo Shyv ult/Lulu ult is still incredibly powerful, but CLG threw that game MLB style

not a throw if they weren't ahead.
liftlift > tsm
Steins;Gate
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
1422 Posts
July 06 2014 04:58 GMT
#1030
On July 06 2014 11:39 canikizu wrote:
Hope COL and C9 win tomorrow. Dig has to go down!!!
Sadly we won't see 2-2 everybody in this week, since EG already lost 3

that lost to col
" Perhaps it's impossible to wear an identity without becoming what you pretend to be. "
SharkStarcraft
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria2275 Posts
July 06 2014 13:13 GMT
#1031
No 3k elo shockwaves today
Cogito, ergo Toss
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
July 06 2014 18:55 GMT
#1032
damn looks like i have to watch all of these games.
Science>Mechanics
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
July 06 2014 19:17 GMT
#1033
On July 06 2014 13:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2014 12:39 Anakko wrote:
On July 06 2014 12:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 06 2014 11:41 Slusher wrote:
at least I know with wonderful I know he's a clg fanboy so he's trying to rationalize the loss, and that's cool I'm that way with dig (and anti with curse). But to the others blaming Lulu fp, they played their comp poorly Shy AND Twitch are good with Lulu you guys are nuts.

shy lulu, twitch were good like 2 patches ago.


Nah, you just ned a bit of damage from both and good teamfighting. Building Shyv full tank and get early lichbane on Lulu were poor choices. The combo Shyv ult/Lulu ult is still incredibly powerful, but CLG threw that game MLB style

not a throw if they weren't ahead.


Yeah ... it's not quite a throw when you're straight up losing the game since the three minute mark ...
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
July 06 2014 19:26 GMT
#1034
Curse - Counter Logic Gaming

Bans:
Twisted Fate, Twitch, Braum.
Jax, Kassadin, Yasuo.

Picks:
Lulu, Elise, Thresh, Jinx, Orianna.
Kayle, Kog'Maw, Ziggs, Nami, Jarvan IV4.

JUST DON'T MESS UP, BOYS.
CLG CLG CLG
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
July 06 2014 19:26 GMT
#1035
man if they can get the 2v2 that Jinx is going to feel the pain
Carrilord has arrived.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 06 2014 19:27 GMT
#1036
Has vooby played orianna before?
Glorious SEA doto
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 19:27:51
July 06 2014 19:27 GMT
#1037
What's this? Seraph on a non-tanky champion that might actually fit his true playstyle? Hope he delivers.

On July 07 2014 04:27 Fusilero wrote:
Has vooby played orianna before?


Real question? Who hasn't played orianna before???
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22578 Posts
July 06 2014 19:28 GMT
#1038
On July 07 2014 04:27 Fusilero wrote:
Has vooby played orianna before?

the question should be did he play it well and I think the answer is no.
But then he hasn't played anything other then Lulu well.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
July 06 2014 19:29 GMT
#1039
On July 07 2014 04:27 ketchup wrote:
What's this? Seraph on a non-tanky champion that might actually fit his true playstyle? Hope he delivers.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2014 04:27 Fusilero wrote:
Has vooby played orianna before?


Real question? Who hasn't played orianna before???

I can't remember if vooby has played orianna in LCS, then again all I remember of vooby mid is based mobos rush leblanc
Glorious SEA doto
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-06 19:30:35
July 06 2014 19:30 GMT
#1040
the rush to top lane before the wards outplay by Saraph

I love it
Carrilord has arrived.
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