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TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 20:19:15
June 29 2014 20:18 GMT
#521
that innox and krepo died 2v2 botlane gave the lead to lucian which basically wrecked altec later. Could have been a win all innox and krepo had to do was not dying while helios makes a big play top.
Science>Mechanics
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
June 29 2014 20:19 GMT
#522
On June 30 2014 05:16 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
If Altec didn't overrate himself 3 times against Lucian, it was EG's game to lose.
Sad, C9 are really shadows of past themselves.

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:16 Moralez wrote:
Innox so bad...


I understand that it's mainstream to blame him, but he didn't do anything bad this game, rofl.
Outside of first death ofc, but it happens.
Yes, he can outtrade Balls, but he got towers anyway, it doesn't matter.


He's playing like he wants to be carried. He's not being decisive and is always reacting to what the other top laner is doing. You can't always play like that and expect to win.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 29 2014 20:19 GMT
#523
EG needs korean in top lane too.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 29 2014 20:20 GMT
#524
I think altec wasn't used to playing vs ie lucian and was just surprised with the damage output.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
June 29 2014 20:20 GMT
#525
On June 30 2014 05:16 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
If Altec didn't overrate himself 3 times against Lucian, it was EG's game to lose.
Sad, C9 are really shadows of past themselves.

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:16 Moralez wrote:
Innox so bad...


I understand that it's mainstream to blame him, but he didn't do anything bad this game, rofl.
Outside of first death ofc, but it happens.
Yes, he can outtrade Balls, but he got towers anyway, it doesn't matter.


His biggest mistake imo was not ulting the wave/C9 when they gave up their mid inhib for free.

That's not a terrible mistake because it wasn't guaranteed to work, but there was at least a chance it forces C9 to back off and gives EG time to get in position.

He just looked like he didn't really know how to use Gragas.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 29 2014 20:20 GMT
#526
Eg also should have not given up that mid inhib tower and inhib with their comp.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
June 29 2014 20:20 GMT
#527
On June 30 2014 05:18 Slusher wrote:
I can agree with the fact that Altec went way too hard when he was actually behind sneaky but if you know what top lane gragas is capable of you know that what you just saw isn't it.


He got freaking towers which he could, he can't kill Renekton anyway.
And it was tank Gragas, not lichbane faceroller by Rock which was oneshotting KTA in Champions.

It was more about displacements which they didn't get sadly, so it was more of a lack of team effort on that than his misplays.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 29 2014 20:21 GMT
#528
On June 30 2014 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:
EG needs korean in top lane too.

To be fair Koreans would solve everything.
Glorious SEA doto
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 20:23:30
June 29 2014 20:22 GMT
#529
I bet there are a lot of challenger players even in NA who know how to play gragas top and are better players.
Science>Mechanics
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 20:24:08
June 29 2014 20:23 GMT
#530
On June 30 2014 05:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:18 Slusher wrote:
I can agree with the fact that Altec went way too hard when he was actually behind sneaky but if you know what top lane gragas is capable of you know that what you just saw isn't it.


He got freaking towers which he could, he can't kill Renekton anyway.
And it was tank Gragas, not lichbane faceroller by Rock which was oneshotting KTA in Champions.

It was more about displacements which they didn't get sadly, so it was more of a lack of team effort on that than his misplays.


He almost did kill Renekton though. He 1v1'd Balls and forced him back at less than 1/4 health (while taking basically no damage!) which allowed him to get the one turret he got while splitting. Then he encountered balls pushed up past river with no towers and refused to fight him for unexplained reasons.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 20:25:49
June 29 2014 20:25 GMT
#531
On June 30 2014 05:21 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:
EG needs korean in top lane too.

To be fair Koreans would solve everything.

Wouldn't solve Kim Jung Un.

Also I've totally been saying crit lucian would be so strong. No one believed me. That free AS from his passive makes IE so stupidly strong.
liftlift > tsm
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 20:27:08
June 29 2014 20:25 GMT
#532
On June 30 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:21 Fusilero wrote:
On June 30 2014 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:
EG needs korean in top lane too.

To be fair Koreans would solve everything.

Wouldn't solve Kim Jung Un.


But we speak about South Koreans.

On June 30 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
I bet there are a lot of challenger players even in NA who know how to play gragas top and are better players.


I don't see a single good toplaner in Challenger scene which is better than InnoX.
Thoorin was right about him.

- If EG wants to stay low, then InnoX is okay.
- If EG wants to jump high - then no. It's like Nien.

On June 30 2014 05:26 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
I bet there are a lot of challenger players even in NA who know how to play gragas top and are better players.

Californiatrlolz is better than innox, and way cooler.


Didn't he retire from competitve, rofl?
Anyway, he's somewhere on InnoX level, won't say that he's way better.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 29 2014 20:26 GMT
#533
On June 30 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
I bet there are a lot of challenger players even in NA who know how to play gragas top and are better players.

Californiatrlolz is better than innox, and way cooler.
liftlift > tsm
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
June 29 2014 20:27 GMT
#534
On June 30 2014 05:26 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
I bet there are a lot of challenger players even in NA who know how to play gragas top and are better players.

Californiatrlolz is better than innox, and way cooler.

If T8 doesn't get BO1'd califroniatrolz would probably be better off staying on T8.

Them EG monies doe.
Glorious SEA doto
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
June 29 2014 20:27 GMT
#535
On June 30 2014 05:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 30 2014 05:21 Fusilero wrote:
On June 30 2014 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:
EG needs korean in top lane too.

To be fair Koreans would solve everything.

Wouldn't solve Kim Jung Un.


But we speak about South Koreans.

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
I bet there are a lot of challenger players even in NA who know how to play gragas top and are better players.


I don't see a single good toplaner in Challenger scene which is better than InnoX.
Thoorin was right about him.

- If EG wants to stay low, then InnoX is okay.
- If EG wants to jump high - then no. It's like Nien.

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:26 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 30 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
I bet there are a lot of challenger players even in NA who know how to play gragas top and are better players.

Californiatrlolz is better than innox, and way cooler.


Didn't he retire from competitve, rofl?
Anyway, he's somewhere on InnoX level, won't say that he's way better.



Isn't riot making the group strages in north korea and the finals in the south?
Science>Mechanics
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 20:29:42
June 29 2014 20:27 GMT
#536
if you want me to admit Altec had the worse decision making this game I agree completely

but that was terrible gragas play, 2v2 Gragas should be able to farm but he did a shit job of threatening return damage when Lemon would walk up and auto him (equal blame to Krepo perhaps) it was just a complete misplay of the lane meanwhile top lane Balls is going cs for cs vs Altec. despite being the exact same -1 ranged to melee disadvantage. was Balls playing risky sure he died for it, but InnoX somehow died wilst playing passively.

is he the biggest reason they lost this game? no
is his Gragas ass tier? without a doubt
Carrilord has arrived.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
June 29 2014 20:27 GMT
#537
On June 30 2014 05:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 30 2014 05:21 Fusilero wrote:
On June 30 2014 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:
EG needs korean in top lane too.

To be fair Koreans would solve everything.

Wouldn't solve Kim Jung Un.


But we speak about South Koreans.

Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
I bet there are a lot of challenger players even in NA who know how to play gragas top and are better players.


I don't see a single good toplaner in Challenger scene which is better than InnoX.
Thoorin was right about him.

- If EG wants to stay low, then InnoX is okay.
- If EG wants to jump high - then no. It's like Nien.


I didn't think Nien was ever bad. He had some good plays. Seraph is doing way worse than Nien did last split tbh.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
June 29 2014 20:29 GMT
#538
On June 30 2014 05:27 K3Nyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On June 30 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 30 2014 05:21 Fusilero wrote:
On June 30 2014 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:
EG needs korean in top lane too.

To be fair Koreans would solve everything.

Wouldn't solve Kim Jung Un.


But we speak about South Koreans.

On June 30 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
I bet there are a lot of challenger players even in NA who know how to play gragas top and are better players.


I don't see a single good toplaner in Challenger scene which is better than InnoX.
Thoorin was right about him.

- If EG wants to stay low, then InnoX is okay.
- If EG wants to jump high - then no. It's like Nien.


I didn't think Nien was ever bad. He had some good plays. Seraph is doing way worse than Nien did last split tbh.


Well, rofl.
You can go and watch Nien's first split in CLG, then come back.
Second split was quite solid, idk why did everyone flame him so hard. Anyway, Seraph just has to stop initiating too early and we're good.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-29 20:32:49
June 29 2014 20:31 GMT
#539
On June 30 2014 05:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2014 05:27 K3Nyy wrote:
On June 30 2014 05:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On June 30 2014 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 30 2014 05:21 Fusilero wrote:
On June 30 2014 05:19 wei2coolman wrote:
EG needs korean in top lane too.

To be fair Koreans would solve everything.

Wouldn't solve Kim Jung Un.


But we speak about South Koreans.

On June 30 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote:
I bet there are a lot of challenger players even in NA who know how to play gragas top and are better players.


I don't see a single good toplaner in Challenger scene which is better than InnoX.
Thoorin was right about him.

- If EG wants to stay low, then InnoX is okay.
- If EG wants to jump high - then no. It's like Nien.


I didn't think Nien was ever bad. He had some good plays. Seraph is doing way worse than Nien did last split tbh.


Well, rofl.
You can go and watch Nien's first split in CLG, then come back.
Second split was quite solid, idk why did everyone flame him so hard.


I predict this will be the same pattern for Seraph.

I still don't think Seraph was the best choice though when they could have had basically any available toplaner.

Edit: Also, blue side dominance continues...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 29 2014 20:31 GMT
#540
Stat wise seraph worse than nien. But a lot has to do with how meta plays out for top lane
liftlift > tsm
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