EPT[NA LCS] Summer 2014 Week 6 - Page 27
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
On June 30 2014 05:16 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: If Altec didn't overrate himself 3 times against Lucian, it was EG's game to lose. Sad, C9 are really shadows of past themselves. I understand that it's mainstream to blame him, but he didn't do anything bad this game, rofl. Outside of first death ofc, but it happens. Yes, he can outtrade Balls, but he got towers anyway, it doesn't matter. He's playing like he wants to be carried. He's not being decisive and is always reacting to what the other top laner is doing. You can't always play like that and expect to win. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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Swords
6038 Posts
On June 30 2014 05:16 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: If Altec didn't overrate himself 3 times against Lucian, it was EG's game to lose. Sad, C9 are really shadows of past themselves. I understand that it's mainstream to blame him, but he didn't do anything bad this game, rofl. Outside of first death ofc, but it happens. Yes, he can outtrade Balls, but he got towers anyway, it doesn't matter. His biggest mistake imo was not ulting the wave/C9 when they gave up their mid inhib for free. That's not a terrible mistake because it wasn't guaranteed to work, but there was at least a chance it forces C9 to back off and gives EG time to get in position. He just looked like he didn't really know how to use Gragas. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On June 30 2014 05:18 Slusher wrote: I can agree with the fact that Altec went way too hard when he was actually behind sneaky but if you know what top lane gragas is capable of you know that what you just saw isn't it. He got freaking towers which he could, he can't kill Renekton anyway. And it was tank Gragas, not lichbane faceroller by Rock which was oneshotting KTA in Champions. It was more about displacements which they didn't get sadly, so it was more of a lack of team effort on that than his misplays. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On June 30 2014 05:19 wei2coolman wrote: EG needs korean in top lane too. To be fair Koreans would solve everything. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
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Swords
6038 Posts
On June 30 2014 05:20 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: He got freaking towers which he could, he can't kill Renekton anyway. And it was tank Gragas, not lichbane faceroller by Rock which was oneshotting KTA in Champions. It was more about displacements which they didn't get sadly, so it was more of a lack of team effort on that than his misplays. He almost did kill Renekton though. He 1v1'd Balls and forced him back at less than 1/4 health (while taking basically no damage!) which allowed him to get the one turret he got while splitting. Then he encountered balls pushed up past river with no towers and refused to fight him for unexplained reasons. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Wouldn't solve Kim Jung Un. Also I've totally been saying crit lucian would be so strong. No one believed me. That free AS from his passive makes IE so stupidly strong. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
But we speak about South Koreans. On June 30 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote: I bet there are a lot of challenger players even in NA who know how to play gragas top and are better players. I don't see a single good toplaner in Challenger scene which is better than InnoX. Thoorin was right about him. - If EG wants to stay low, then InnoX is okay. - If EG wants to jump high - then no. It's like Nien. On June 30 2014 05:26 wei2coolman wrote: Californiatrlolz is better than innox, and way cooler. Didn't he retire from competitve, rofl? Anyway, he's somewhere on InnoX level, won't say that he's way better. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 30 2014 05:22 TitusVI wrote: I bet there are a lot of challenger players even in NA who know how to play gragas top and are better players. Californiatrlolz is better than innox, and way cooler. | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On June 30 2014 05:26 wei2coolman wrote: Californiatrlolz is better than innox, and way cooler. If T8 doesn't get BO1'd califroniatrolz would probably be better off staying on T8. Them EG monies doe. | ||
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
On June 30 2014 05:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: But we speak about South Koreans. I don't see a single good toplaner in Challenger scene which is better than InnoX. Thoorin was right about him. - If EG wants to stay low, then InnoX is okay. - If EG wants to jump high - then no. It's like Nien. Didn't he retire from competitve, rofl? Anyway, he's somewhere on InnoX level, won't say that he's way better. Isn't riot making the group strages in north korea and the finals in the south? | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
but that was terrible gragas play, 2v2 Gragas should be able to farm but he did a shit job of threatening return damage when Lemon would walk up and auto him (equal blame to Krepo perhaps) it was just a complete misplay of the lane meanwhile top lane Balls is going cs for cs vs Altec. despite being the exact same -1 ranged to melee disadvantage. was Balls playing risky sure he died for it, but InnoX somehow died wilst playing passively. is he the biggest reason they lost this game? no is his Gragas ass tier? without a doubt | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
On June 30 2014 05:25 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: But we speak about South Koreans. I don't see a single good toplaner in Challenger scene which is better than InnoX. Thoorin was right about him. - If EG wants to stay low, then InnoX is okay. - If EG wants to jump high - then no. It's like Nien. I didn't think Nien was ever bad. He had some good plays. Seraph is doing way worse than Nien did last split tbh. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On June 30 2014 05:27 K3Nyy wrote: I didn't think Nien was ever bad. He had some good plays. Seraph is doing way worse than Nien did last split tbh. Well, rofl. You can go and watch Nien's first split in CLG, then come back. Second split was quite solid, idk why did everyone flame him so hard. Anyway, Seraph just has to stop initiating too early and we're good. | ||
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Swords
6038 Posts
On June 30 2014 05:29 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Well, rofl. You can go and watch Nien's first split in CLG, then come back. Second split was quite solid, idk why did everyone flame him so hard. I predict this will be the same pattern for Seraph. I still don't think Seraph was the best choice though when they could have had basically any available toplaner. Edit: Also, blue side dominance continues... | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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