[NA LCS] Summer 2014 Week 6 - Page 29
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wei2coolman
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nafta
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wei2coolman
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Swords
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You're both right. No stat is going to paint a complete picture of a player. OPS is WAY more accurate than what people used to look at though - avg, runs, rbis are all way more dependent on teammates, match ups, etc. The same way looking at k/d/a in league is pretty pointless because it's so dependent on the other 4 people on your team. The thing that Billy Beane did really well was combine OPS with stuff like BABIP (did the player make a lot of contact, but hit it at fielders - ie: how unlucky was he?) and use that to find underrated players. I don't know what the equivalent stats would be in league, they might not have been developed yet. It's also much harder in a game with 5 person teams with parts constantly in motion, opposed to 9 person teams where 1 person hits at a time. | ||
nafta
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On June 30 2014 05:49 wei2coolman wrote: How does yasuo vs ori lane playout? is it just a farm lane? Pretty much yeah.Ori has slight advantage cause ori vs melee like usual early. | ||
wei2coolman
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On June 30 2014 05:49 Swords wrote: You're both right. No stat is going to paint a complete picture of a player. OPS is WAY more accurate than what people used to look at though - avg, runs, rbis are all way more dependent on teammates, match ups, etc. The same way looking at k/d/a in league is pretty pointless because it's so dependent on the other 4 people on your team. The thing that Billy Beane did really well was combine OPS with stuff like BABIP (did the player make a lot of contact, but hit it at fielders - ie: how unlucky was he?) and use that to find underrated players. I don't know what the equivalent stats would be in league, they might not have been developed yet. It's also much harder in a game with 5 person teams with parts constantly in motion, opposed to 9 person teams where 1 person hits at a time. Sabermetrics gets really close to painting picture, but you need like 20 different stat numbers to put everything into context with each number. You can't just be like "yo this singular number paints a complete picture of a player". | ||
Swords
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On June 30 2014 05:50 wei2coolman wrote: Sabermetrics gets really close to painting picture, but you need like 20 different stat numbers to put everything into context with each number. You can't just be like "yo this singular number paints a complete picture of a player". That's what I'm saying Slusher's point though was what he said below - OPS is a much more accurate way of describing a player than any of the old traditional stats, so it's much better than nothing. | ||
Neverhood
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wei2coolman
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Slusher
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wei2coolman
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On June 30 2014 05:53 Slusher wrote: ok let me be more clear, if you make a meaningless scale, at which I'll put OPS at 8 of 10, KDA is basically a 1 fair enough. | ||
nafta
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On June 30 2014 05:53 wei2coolman wrote: xwx going full balls deep with that flash. that was fucking risky, as fuck. Classic Chinese LoL fair enough. What was so risky?He had lulu and thresh behind him vs ori with no flash and the only person who can come to help is gragas.Seems pretty standart to me. | ||
wei2coolman
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On June 30 2014 05:54 nafta wrote: What was so risky?He had lulu and thresh behind him vs ori with no flash and the only person who can come to help is gragas.Seems pretty standart to me. if he missed his Q, woulda been a blown flash for nothing. amazing secure. | ||
Alaric
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nafta
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I think it targets the target you e but could be wrong. | ||
wei2coolman
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On June 30 2014 05:57 nafta wrote: How can you miss q when you use it after e?It is literally impossible lol. Didn't think he could chase down into E range, to Q. Also if Bjergsen wasn't so greedy, and just used the ult the second xwx flashed, could have kept enough range away to prevent him from E'ing on him. | ||
Neverhood
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wei2coolman
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