• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:49
CEST 18:49
KST 01:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On9Maestros of the Game: Live Finals Preview (RO4)5TL.net Map Contest #21 - Finalists4Team TLMC #5: Vote to Decide Ladder Maps!0[ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Mile High15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up2PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition245.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version)101$2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 151Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada11
StarCraft 2
General
5.0.15 Balance Patch Notes (Live version) Weekly Cups (Sept 29-Oct 5): MaxPax triples up PartinG joins SteamerZone, returns to SC2 competition ZvT - Army Composition - Slow Lings + Fast Banes Stellar Fest: StarCraft II returns to Canada
Tourneys
Tenacious Turtle Tussle Stellar Fest $2,500 WardiTV TL Map Contest Tournament 15 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LANified! 37: Groundswell, BYOC LAN, Nov 28-30 2025
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment Mutation # 493 Quick Killers Mutation # 492 Get Out More Mutation # 491 Night Drive
Brood War
General
RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Question regarding recent ASL Bisu vs Larva game BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ro8 Preview Pt2: Holding On
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Ro8 Day 4 [ASL20] Ro8 Day 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Proposed Glossary of Strategic Uncertainty Current Meta TvZ Theorycraft - Improving on State of the Art 9 hatch vs 10 hatch vs 12 hatch
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread ZeroSpace Megathread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The Happy Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts The Automated Ban List BarCraft in Tokyo Japan for ASL Season5 Final
Blogs
[AI] From Comfort Women to …
Peanutsc
Mental Health In Esports: Wo…
TrAiDoS
Try to reverse getting fired …
Garnet
[ASL20] Players bad at pi…
pullarius1
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1391 users

[IEM] Season 8 World Championship - Page 215

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 213 214 215 216 217 251 Next
Stop arguing or baiting about nationalities or regions. -Page 231
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 16 2014 17:56 GMT
#4281
On March 17 2014 02:55 Affenaffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 02:53 TitusVI wrote:
I don't want to sound that depressive now at this finals but I'm not sure fanatic wins this.


they will ban khazix and win, not that hard of a prediction, they all played really well
edit: except maybe rekkles, didn't watch him much

inb4 they leave lee sin open, and insec goes 1-0-9001
liftlift > tsm
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
March 16 2014 17:56 GMT
#4282
On March 17 2014 02:55 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 02:50 killerdog wrote:
On March 17 2014 02:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 02:48 nafta wrote:
On March 17 2014 02:47 ghrur wrote:
Rekkles had no defensive item... how ballsy vs a fucking Kha'zix lol.

Bork is pretty much a defensive item vs kha.Problem was lb.

it's an incredibly poor choice of defensive item after already having PD.


I'd go more along the line of the pd being the bad choice. I'd rather have blade + a defensive item then pd + a defensive item vs a kha'zix tbh

He built PD first, for the MS and for Crit unlock, however the issue is after the LW, it was apparently obvious that he was gunna get popped by Ryu or K6, instead he builds BOTRK, instead of Bveil, and finishing it off with IE. Hell, even if he didn't want to get Bveil that early, coulda went straight for IE and become a bigger threat so at least leopard would feel threatened to chase after him instead of xpeke.

He should have known that he would be getting popped by kha and lb before he built the pd though. It's not like lb and kha suddenly appeared in the game after he finished his pd. I'm just personally not a fan of pd against double assassin teams.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
March 16 2014 17:57 GMT
#4283
Leblank and luhowna.
Retvrn to Forvms
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
March 16 2014 17:57 GMT
#4284
On March 17 2014 02:55 Affenaffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 02:53 TitusVI wrote:
I don't want to sound that depressive now at this finals but I'm not sure fanatic wins this.


they will ban khazix and win, not that hard of a prediction, they all played really well
edit: except maybe rekkles, didn't watch him much



Compared to what? EU LCS? lol, they didn't look like they knew what they were doing at all once it got past mid game. Xpeke basically pissed his pants and ran away every team fight. I dunno where Rekkles was except dying offscreen. Yolopete the only saving grace of fnatic.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 16 2014 17:58 GMT
#4285
On March 17 2014 02:56 killerdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 02:55 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 02:50 killerdog wrote:
On March 17 2014 02:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 02:48 nafta wrote:
On March 17 2014 02:47 ghrur wrote:
Rekkles had no defensive item... how ballsy vs a fucking Kha'zix lol.

Bork is pretty much a defensive item vs kha.Problem was lb.

it's an incredibly poor choice of defensive item after already having PD.


I'd go more along the line of the pd being the bad choice. I'd rather have blade + a defensive item then pd + a defensive item vs a kha'zix tbh

He built PD first, for the MS and for Crit unlock, however the issue is after the LW, it was apparently obvious that he was gunna get popped by Ryu or K6, instead he builds BOTRK, instead of Bveil, and finishing it off with IE. Hell, even if he didn't want to get Bveil that early, coulda went straight for IE and become a bigger threat so at least leopard would feel threatened to chase after him instead of xpeke.

He should have known that he would be getting popped by kha and lb before he built the pd though. It's not like lb and kha suddenly appeared in the game after he finished his pd. I'm just personally not a fan of pd against double assassin teams.

tbf, at that point in time fnatic was in control of the game, and ryu was behind for majority of that game, and insec was only threat, but wasn't that big of a deal at that time.
liftlift > tsm
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
March 16 2014 17:58 GMT
#4286
On March 17 2014 02:50 QuixoticO wrote:
I really like how InSec's third and fourth items were Banshee and Randuins.

He's (almost) always been playing bruisers. I'm sure he's more comfortable on this than on a glass-cannon K6
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Thinasy
Profile Joined March 2011
2856 Posts
March 16 2014 17:59 GMT
#4287
On March 17 2014 02:57 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 02:55 Affenaffe wrote:
On March 17 2014 02:53 TitusVI wrote:
I don't want to sound that depressive now at this finals but I'm not sure fanatic wins this.


they will ban khazix and win, not that hard of a prediction, they all played really well
edit: except maybe rekkles, didn't watch him much



Compared to what? EU LCS? lol, they didn't look like they knew what they were doing at all once it got past mid game. Xpeke basically pissed his pants and ran away every team fight. I dunno where Rekkles was except dying offscreen. Yolopete the only saving grace of fnatic.


You mean Yolostar* also he's always the saving grace for Fnatic. Cyanide is just a non-factor every game lol
Jaedong & Faker
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
March 16 2014 17:59 GMT
#4288
wtf is leplank? froggen pls lol
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 18:00:51
March 16 2014 18:00 GMT
#4289
On March 17 2014 02:50 Tula wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 02:47 TitusVI wrote:
it really sucks at the start it looked like fanatic could win

maybe they could have if Soaz and Xpeke actually grew some balls and did something with their chars.

A 5 item top laner running from a 4 and a half item jungler.....

xpeke didn't get a single barrel combo onto ryu or score (the targets he kinda needs to kill) instead he threw it on a kha'zix with ulti damage reduction and 2 MR items.

Contrary to the casters opinion Insec's Kha didn't kill them. Their lack of focus on the people actually doing damage killed them.


I think KTB just knew how to engage vs Gragas, they were engaging in areas where both teams were split so they were jumping onto from different areas so. Gragas never got the 3-4 barrel. Then they had ryu and leopard on Rekkles while Insec went on morgana and then score took on everyone else. Fnatic just couldn't get their damage out.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 16 2014 18:00 GMT
#4290
On March 17 2014 02:59 justiceknight wrote:
wtf is leplank? froggen pls lol

it's a next level pun, because ryu's leblanc fell flat (le plank)
liftlift > tsm
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
March 16 2014 18:01 GMT
#4291
On March 17 2014 02:59 justiceknight wrote:
wtf is leplank? froggen pls lol

Oh god, i need to photoshop GP's head on Leblanc's body
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
March 16 2014 18:01 GMT
#4292
good guy krepo.
always agrees with me.
what a clever guy.
sataNik[pG]
Profile Joined July 2003
Greece722 Posts
March 16 2014 18:02 GMT
#4293
Soaz was by far the weakest link in this game, perma using ulti defensively partly because he was putting himself in a position where he could take tons of free damage with no compensation at all and partly because he was chickening out.
Also Yellowstar missed too many clutch bindings in the 3-4 last teamfights.
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 18:03:54
March 16 2014 18:02 GMT
#4294
On March 17 2014 02:58 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 02:56 killerdog wrote:
On March 17 2014 02:55 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 02:50 killerdog wrote:
On March 17 2014 02:50 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 17 2014 02:48 nafta wrote:
On March 17 2014 02:47 ghrur wrote:
Rekkles had no defensive item... how ballsy vs a fucking Kha'zix lol.

Bork is pretty much a defensive item vs kha.Problem was lb.

it's an incredibly poor choice of defensive item after already having PD.


I'd go more along the line of the pd being the bad choice. I'd rather have blade + a defensive item then pd + a defensive item vs a kha'zix tbh

He built PD first, for the MS and for Crit unlock, however the issue is after the LW, it was apparently obvious that he was gunna get popped by Ryu or K6, instead he builds BOTRK, instead of Bveil, and finishing it off with IE. Hell, even if he didn't want to get Bveil that early, coulda went straight for IE and become a bigger threat so at least leopard would feel threatened to chase after him instead of xpeke.

He should have known that he would be getting popped by kha and lb before he built the pd though. It's not like lb and kha suddenly appeared in the game after he finished his pd. I'm just personally not a fan of pd against double assassin teams.

tbf, at that point in time fnatic was in control of the game, and ryu was behind for majority of that game, and insec was only threat, but wasn't that big of a deal at that time.

But you should still be aware of the fact that eventually, unless you straight up win in the next 10-15 minutes, lba dn kha will be able to blow you up. It's just how they work.

I tend to play more of a triforce based lucian, so I'll admit to not being that experienced with the pros/cons of pd, but I don't see why you would choose pd in that situation. If ryu/kha stay behind, going straight for lw or blade helps you burst down the assassins if they every try to engage, and you can just kite olaf anyway, and if ryu and kha come back (which they probably will) then you aren't totally screwed.

To justify pd on the basis of ryu/kha not being a threat, you have to argue that the advantages of pd over something else against a behind kha and lb outweigh the risk of the kha and lb getting back into the game somehow, which i don't really see.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-16 18:02:53
March 16 2014 18:02 GMT
#4295
On March 17 2014 03:01 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2014 02:59 justiceknight wrote:
wtf is leplank? froggen pls lol

Oh god, i need to photoshop GP's head on Leblanc's body


you could also predict what kind if skills a leplank has. At the end a scary hybrid.
Science>Mechanics
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 16 2014 18:02 GMT
#4296
I wonder if we will FINALLY see someone deny sivir from fucking ktb.Has been the strongest member on every team she has been on.
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
March 16 2014 18:03 GMT
#4297
Fucking twitch...
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
March 16 2014 18:04 GMT
#4298
Are they serious?
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
March 16 2014 18:04 GMT
#4299
No Kha'Zix ban. Kha'Zix first pick for KTB. Let's see if there's a plan.
Zero fighting.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
March 16 2014 18:04 GMT
#4300
no kha ban lol
Prev 1 213 214 215 216 217 251 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#25
RotterdaM886
TKL 231
IndyStarCraft 155
SteadfastSC43
Psz4
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 886
Harstem 474
Lowko467
Hui .256
TKL 210
IndyStarCraft 155
BRAT_OK 112
ProTech84
Livibee 59
SteadfastSC 43
MindelVK 28
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 31026
Barracks 746
Larva 296
Dewaltoss 121
firebathero 117
Hyun 105
PianO 84
yabsab 67
Backho 62
Rock 51
[ Show more ]
ivOry 48
Sacsri 46
scan(afreeca) 24
HiyA 5
sas.Sziky 2
Dota 2
qojqva4488
420jenkins483
BananaSlamJamma270
Counter-Strike
fl0m2855
allub139
oskar101
flusha95
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor268
Other Games
FrodaN1674
Beastyqt626
Liquid`VortiX259
Trikslyr74
rGuardiaN40
UpATreeSC40
JuggernautJason6
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hinosc 2
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• Michael_bg 7
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV757
League of Legends
• Nemesis4590
• Jankos1794
• TFBlade657
Other Games
• Shiphtur250
Upcoming Events
Map Test Tournament
18h 11m
PiGosaur Monday
1d 7h
Map Test Tournament
1d 18h
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Map Test Tournament
2 days
Map Test Tournament
3 days
OSC
3 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
[ Show More ]
Map Test Tournament
4 days
OSC
4 days
[BSL 2025] Weekly
5 days
Safe House 2
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Map Test Tournament
5 days
OSC
5 days
IPSL
6 days
dxtr13 vs Napoleon
Doodle vs OldBoy
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Team Wars
Maestros of the Game
HCC Europe

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
ASL Season 20
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
Acropolis #4 - TS2
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
EC S1
ESL Pro League S22
Frag Blocktober 2025
Urban Riga Open #1
FERJEE Rush 2025
Birch Cup 2025
DraculaN #2
LanDaLan #3
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
WardiTV TLMC #15
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.