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On October 06 2013 03:12 Comogury wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2013 19:03 vthree wrote:On October 05 2013 17:54 Comogury wrote:
I have to say, going to the finals live kind of sucked.
Having a seat on the top row shouldn't have had as much of an impact on the show that it did. I had it kind of okay because I could at least see the hanging screen, but the main screen was disappointing. Not only was it too small, but the lights made it almost painful to look at and obstructed view. I feel really bad for the people who were sitting in the sections further on the side. There, you can barely see the main screen (and it's still obstructed), and you can't see the hanging screens. If they had two more screens - one for each side of the arena, it would have been perfect.
Being on the top row, I didn't expect the sound to be all the great. It wasn't only not great, but anything anyone said was barely audible. Unless the casters were yelling, I couldn't make out anything anyone was saying. The analyst desk was impossible to listen to because of this.
My girlfriend and I went outside to buy merchandise at the beginning of game 2, but we ended up just sitting outside watching the game to the end on the TVs out in the lobby. The quality was just as good, but the difference was there was no obstruction. The audio also bled through the room and was actually louder in the lobby than where we were sitting. Honestly, I think we should have just stayed outside and watched the whole finals there.
The games were also kind of disappointing. Game 1 and 3 were so one sided that it was kind of sad. Game 2 was good, but it was still kind of sad that Royal lost.
The only good things that came out of the finals were the merchandise and the fact that we could leave early. They made the event at a great time for the people going to the event, but I think everyone on the 3rd deck would have had a better time enjoying the show at home. :/ To be fair, this is true for most sports events in arenas or stadiums, unless you get really good seats. Basically you are there for the atmosphere. If you want good view and sound, it is always better from home on your big screen TV. At least in football/basketball/baseball, you can see everything when you go to a game! And you can hear everything at a concert. This was my view of the stage: + Show Spoiler +There were actually quite a few people who did end up leaving their seats just to watch the games outside, which is kind of sad. It's hard to get excited and into the atmosphere when you can barely see/hear what's going on - which you can do at any other sporting event.
pretty sure those seats would be terrible even if the Lakers were playing not sure how this is a critizim of esports. lets be honest here since the popularity of HDTV going to any sporting event E or traditional has been for atmosphere over viewing experience.
you haven't seen bad seats if you weren't at the Final Four held at the Metrodome.
![[image loading]](http://www.goldcoastticketsusa.com/images/hhh_metrodome.gif)
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I don't know about American sports fields but going to watch a cricket or rugby game you generally get an alright view even on the worst of seats. The sheer size means that is easier where as the small screen will always be limiting. That view is god awful though.
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On October 06 2013 03:34 Numy wrote:
I don't know about American sports fields but going to watch a cricket or football game you generally get an alright view even on the worst of seats. The sheer size means that is easier where as the small screen will always be limiting. That view is god awful though.
Difference is cricket and football fields are WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY bigger than a basketball court...
Also, I've been to this stadium before for Clippers game, if you don't get decent seats, your view is pretty much shit.
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On October 06 2013 01:42 udgnim wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2013 19:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Lol is just too snowbally, extremely boring finals imho, well maybe season 4 can deliver watching S3 Worlds, I've come to a similar conclusion at the very highest level of LoL competitive play that coming back is very difficult due to the ward / map control the leading team establishes & maintains the top 4 teams in Worlds showed they were capable of making the necessary plays / risks to attempt to come back, but the chances of success for a particular risky / play was maybe around 25 - 33% and if a risky play was successfully, the losing team still needed to make at least 1 more risky play for the game to be somewhat even between both teams DotA seems to have much more of a comeback factor due to its design & skills. I remember Navi trying to pull off some Pudge Chen combo which was working at times but not often enough and they were getting more and more behind, then they managed to pull off the combo then got a successful team fight engage and Navi just took over and snowballed to victory despite being behind most of the game. I still much prefer LoL's team fight and action though.
Not really. Both games require the other team to throw. I guess in dota there is the added factor that you can have different types of team strategies requiring different scaling heroes. For example, you might get antimage really farmed and make a "comeback" but it really doesn't feel like a comeback when that happens.
There were plenty of comebacks and back and forths at Worlds but just not in the finals, and certainly not when a team like SKT has control. Game 2 was actually pretty close to a comeback, and I don't think the outcome of that game had anything to do with SKT's 2k gold lead.
The big issue is that the gold totals are always displayed at the top so you're always constantly aware of just how much one team is behind and how much that gold lead starts to accumulate. Dota shows gold graphs but it's not constantly in your face. I've watched dota more than LoL overall and making a comeback in the mid game 20-30 minute mark is quite difficult. Na`vi is na`vi and they pulled off a once in a lifetime miracle comeback with the pudge hooks.
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On October 06 2013 00:27 KissBlade wrote:
I just got spoiled from my facebook "like" on the League of Legends page. FUCK I KNEW I SHOULD'VE STAYED OFF THE INTERNET TILL I HAD TIME FOR GAMES.
I'm lucky I watched it live. My facebook newsfeed blew up in + Show Spoiler + as soon as the games were over. I had no idea that many people I knew watched League.
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On October 06 2013 03:31 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 03:12 Comogury wrote:On October 05 2013 19:03 vthree wrote:On October 05 2013 17:54 Comogury wrote:
I have to say, going to the finals live kind of sucked.
Having a seat on the top row shouldn't have had as much of an impact on the show that it did. I had it kind of okay because I could at least see the hanging screen, but the main screen was disappointing. Not only was it too small, but the lights made it almost painful to look at and obstructed view. I feel really bad for the people who were sitting in the sections further on the side. There, you can barely see the main screen (and it's still obstructed), and you can't see the hanging screens. If they had two more screens - one for each side of the arena, it would have been perfect.
Being on the top row, I didn't expect the sound to be all the great. It wasn't only not great, but anything anyone said was barely audible. Unless the casters were yelling, I couldn't make out anything anyone was saying. The analyst desk was impossible to listen to because of this.
My girlfriend and I went outside to buy merchandise at the beginning of game 2, but we ended up just sitting outside watching the game to the end on the TVs out in the lobby. The quality was just as good, but the difference was there was no obstruction. The audio also bled through the room and was actually louder in the lobby than where we were sitting. Honestly, I think we should have just stayed outside and watched the whole finals there.
The games were also kind of disappointing. Game 1 and 3 were so one sided that it was kind of sad. Game 2 was good, but it was still kind of sad that Royal lost.
The only good things that came out of the finals were the merchandise and the fact that we could leave early. They made the event at a great time for the people going to the event, but I think everyone on the 3rd deck would have had a better time enjoying the show at home. :/ To be fair, this is true for most sports events in arenas or stadiums, unless you get really good seats. Basically you are there for the atmosphere. If you want good view and sound, it is always better from home on your big screen TV. At least in football/basketball/baseball, you can see everything when you go to a game! And you can hear everything at a concert. This was my view of the stage: + Show Spoiler +There were actually quite a few people who did end up leaving their seats just to watch the games outside, which is kind of sad. It's hard to get excited and into the atmosphere when you can barely see/hear what's going on - which you can do at any other sporting event. pretty sure those seats would be terrible even if the Lakers were playing not sure how this is a critizim of esports. lets be honest here since the popularity of HDTV going to any sporting event E or traditional has been for atmosphere over viewing experience. you haven't seen bad seats if you weren't at the Final Four held at the Metrodome.
The part about it being bad for a basketball game is completely false.
Pictures of Staples Center from http://aviewfrommyseat.com/
View from bottom of the top deck/
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View from the middle of the top deck.
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These are less than 5 rows from the top.
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This last one is closest to my seat (top row).
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On October 06 2013 03:40 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 01:42 udgnim wrote:On October 05 2013 19:00 The_Red_Viper wrote:
Lol is just too snowbally, extremely boring finals imho, well maybe season 4 can deliver watching S3 Worlds, I've come to a similar conclusion at the very highest level of LoL competitive play that coming back is very difficult due to the ward / map control the leading team establishes & maintains the top 4 teams in Worlds showed they were capable of making the necessary plays / risks to attempt to come back, but the chances of success for a particular risky / play was maybe around 25 - 33% and if a risky play was successfully, the losing team still needed to make at least 1 more risky play for the game to be somewhat even between both teams DotA seems to have much more of a comeback factor due to its design & skills. I remember Navi trying to pull off some Pudge Chen combo which was working at times but not often enough and they were getting more and more behind, then they managed to pull off the combo then got a successful team fight engage and Navi just took over and snowballed to victory despite being behind most of the game. I still much prefer LoL's team fight and action though. Not really. Both games require the other team to throw. I guess in dota there is the added factor that you can have different types of team strategies requiring different scaling heroes. For example, you might get antimage really farmed and make a "comeback" but it really doesn't feel like a comeback when that happens. There were plenty of comebacks and back and forths at Worlds but just not in the finals, and certainly not when a team like SKT has control. Game 2 was actually pretty close to a comeback, and I don't think the outcome of that game had anything to do with SKT's 2k gold lead. The big issue is that the gold totals are always displayed at the top so you're always constantly aware of just how much one team is behind and how much that gold lead starts to accumulate. Dota shows gold graphs but it's not constantly in your face. I've watched dota more than LoL overall and making a comeback in the mid game 20-30 minute mark is quite difficult. Na`vi is na`vi and they pulled off a once in a lifetime miracle comeback with the pudge hooks.
it also just was not a very evenly matched final, despite what the casters tried to sell.
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On October 06 2013 03:45 Comogury wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 03:31 Slusher wrote:On October 06 2013 03:12 Comogury wrote:On October 05 2013 19:03 vthree wrote:On October 05 2013 17:54 Comogury wrote:
I have to say, going to the finals live kind of sucked.
Having a seat on the top row shouldn't have had as much of an impact on the show that it did. I had it kind of okay because I could at least see the hanging screen, but the main screen was disappointing. Not only was it too small, but the lights made it almost painful to look at and obstructed view. I feel really bad for the people who were sitting in the sections further on the side. There, you can barely see the main screen (and it's still obstructed), and you can't see the hanging screens. If they had two more screens - one for each side of the arena, it would have been perfect.
Being on the top row, I didn't expect the sound to be all the great. It wasn't only not great, but anything anyone said was barely audible. Unless the casters were yelling, I couldn't make out anything anyone was saying. The analyst desk was impossible to listen to because of this.
My girlfriend and I went outside to buy merchandise at the beginning of game 2, but we ended up just sitting outside watching the game to the end on the TVs out in the lobby. The quality was just as good, but the difference was there was no obstruction. The audio also bled through the room and was actually louder in the lobby than where we were sitting. Honestly, I think we should have just stayed outside and watched the whole finals there.
The games were also kind of disappointing. Game 1 and 3 were so one sided that it was kind of sad. Game 2 was good, but it was still kind of sad that Royal lost.
The only good things that came out of the finals were the merchandise and the fact that we could leave early. They made the event at a great time for the people going to the event, but I think everyone on the 3rd deck would have had a better time enjoying the show at home. :/ To be fair, this is true for most sports events in arenas or stadiums, unless you get really good seats. Basically you are there for the atmosphere. If you want good view and sound, it is always better from home on your big screen TV. At least in football/basketball/baseball, you can see everything when you go to a game! And you can hear everything at a concert. This was my view of the stage: + Show Spoiler +There were actually quite a few people who did end up leaving their seats just to watch the games outside, which is kind of sad. It's hard to get excited and into the atmosphere when you can barely see/hear what's going on - which you can do at any other sporting event. pretty sure those seats would be terrible even if the Lakers were playing not sure how this is a critizim of esports. lets be honest here since the popularity of HDTV going to any sporting event E or traditional has been for atmosphere over viewing experience. you haven't seen bad seats if you weren't at the Final Four held at the Metrodome. The part about it being bad for a basketball game is completely false. Pictures of Staples Center from http://aviewfrommyseat.com/View from bottom of the top deck/ + Show Spoiler +View from the middle of the top deck. + Show Spoiler +These are less than 5 rows from the top. + Show Spoiler +This last one is closest to my seat (top row). + Show Spoiler +
I've actually been to a game up that high before you can show all the internet photographs you want the view of the game is terrible.
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On October 06 2013 03:49 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 03:45 Comogury wrote:On October 06 2013 03:31 Slusher wrote:On October 06 2013 03:12 Comogury wrote:On October 05 2013 19:03 vthree wrote:On October 05 2013 17:54 Comogury wrote:
I have to say, going to the finals live kind of sucked.
Having a seat on the top row shouldn't have had as much of an impact on the show that it did. I had it kind of okay because I could at least see the hanging screen, but the main screen was disappointing. Not only was it too small, but the lights made it almost painful to look at and obstructed view. I feel really bad for the people who were sitting in the sections further on the side. There, you can barely see the main screen (and it's still obstructed), and you can't see the hanging screens. If they had two more screens - one for each side of the arena, it would have been perfect.
Being on the top row, I didn't expect the sound to be all the great. It wasn't only not great, but anything anyone said was barely audible. Unless the casters were yelling, I couldn't make out anything anyone was saying. The analyst desk was impossible to listen to because of this.
My girlfriend and I went outside to buy merchandise at the beginning of game 2, but we ended up just sitting outside watching the game to the end on the TVs out in the lobby. The quality was just as good, but the difference was there was no obstruction. The audio also bled through the room and was actually louder in the lobby than where we were sitting. Honestly, I think we should have just stayed outside and watched the whole finals there.
The games were also kind of disappointing. Game 1 and 3 were so one sided that it was kind of sad. Game 2 was good, but it was still kind of sad that Royal lost.
The only good things that came out of the finals were the merchandise and the fact that we could leave early. They made the event at a great time for the people going to the event, but I think everyone on the 3rd deck would have had a better time enjoying the show at home. :/ To be fair, this is true for most sports events in arenas or stadiums, unless you get really good seats. Basically you are there for the atmosphere. If you want good view and sound, it is always better from home on your big screen TV. At least in football/basketball/baseball, you can see everything when you go to a game! And you can hear everything at a concert. This was my view of the stage: + Show Spoiler +There were actually quite a few people who did end up leaving their seats just to watch the games outside, which is kind of sad. It's hard to get excited and into the atmosphere when you can barely see/hear what's going on - which you can do at any other sporting event. pretty sure those seats would be terrible even if the Lakers were playing not sure how this is a critizim of esports. lets be honest here since the popularity of HDTV going to any sporting event E or traditional has been for atmosphere over viewing experience. you haven't seen bad seats if you weren't at the Final Four held at the Metrodome. The part about it being bad for a basketball game is completely false. Pictures of Staples Center from http://aviewfrommyseat.com/View from bottom of the top deck/ + Show Spoiler +View from the middle of the top deck. + Show Spoiler +These are less than 5 rows from the top. + Show Spoiler +This last one is closest to my seat (top row). + Show Spoiler + I've actually been to a game up that high before you can show all the internet photographs you want the view of the game is terrible.
Pretty much, those photos are pretty misleading.
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On October 06 2013 03:49 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 03:45 Comogury wrote:On October 06 2013 03:31 Slusher wrote:On October 06 2013 03:12 Comogury wrote:On October 05 2013 19:03 vthree wrote:On October 05 2013 17:54 Comogury wrote:
I have to say, going to the finals live kind of sucked.
Having a seat on the top row shouldn't have had as much of an impact on the show that it did. I had it kind of okay because I could at least see the hanging screen, but the main screen was disappointing. Not only was it too small, but the lights made it almost painful to look at and obstructed view. I feel really bad for the people who were sitting in the sections further on the side. There, you can barely see the main screen (and it's still obstructed), and you can't see the hanging screens. If they had two more screens - one for each side of the arena, it would have been perfect.
Being on the top row, I didn't expect the sound to be all the great. It wasn't only not great, but anything anyone said was barely audible. Unless the casters were yelling, I couldn't make out anything anyone was saying. The analyst desk was impossible to listen to because of this.
My girlfriend and I went outside to buy merchandise at the beginning of game 2, but we ended up just sitting outside watching the game to the end on the TVs out in the lobby. The quality was just as good, but the difference was there was no obstruction. The audio also bled through the room and was actually louder in the lobby than where we were sitting. Honestly, I think we should have just stayed outside and watched the whole finals there.
The games were also kind of disappointing. Game 1 and 3 were so one sided that it was kind of sad. Game 2 was good, but it was still kind of sad that Royal lost.
The only good things that came out of the finals were the merchandise and the fact that we could leave early. They made the event at a great time for the people going to the event, but I think everyone on the 3rd deck would have had a better time enjoying the show at home. :/ To be fair, this is true for most sports events in arenas or stadiums, unless you get really good seats. Basically you are there for the atmosphere. If you want good view and sound, it is always better from home on your big screen TV. At least in football/basketball/baseball, you can see everything when you go to a game! And you can hear everything at a concert. This was my view of the stage: + Show Spoiler +There were actually quite a few people who did end up leaving their seats just to watch the games outside, which is kind of sad. It's hard to get excited and into the atmosphere when you can barely see/hear what's going on - which you can do at any other sporting event. pretty sure those seats would be terrible even if the Lakers were playing not sure how this is a critizim of esports. lets be honest here since the popularity of HDTV going to any sporting event E or traditional has been for atmosphere over viewing experience. you haven't seen bad seats if you weren't at the Final Four held at the Metrodome. The part about it being bad for a basketball game is completely false. Pictures of Staples Center from http://aviewfrommyseat.com/View from bottom of the top deck/ + Show Spoiler +View from the middle of the top deck. + Show Spoiler +These are less than 5 rows from the top. + Show Spoiler +This last one is closest to my seat (top row). + Show Spoiler + I've actually been to a game up that high before you can show all the internet photographs you want the view of the game is terrible.
Basketball stadiums are usually pretty decent for getting viewing angles. There's some seats where the basket/backboard presents a major impediment and that's a drag, but being in the upper level is usually a non issue. Now Football (MURICAN) and baseball can have far more debilitating distance/obstruction/angles issues, but those sports are mad boring to watch in person anyway and aren't the main reason people go.
E:And really in all cases TV production has gotten so slick that the main reason to actually attend an event is the crowd atmosphere which fútbol (and College Unpaid Professionals) teams do the best of exploiting.
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On October 06 2013 03:49 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 03:45 Comogury wrote:On October 06 2013 03:31 Slusher wrote:On October 06 2013 03:12 Comogury wrote:On October 05 2013 19:03 vthree wrote:On October 05 2013 17:54 Comogury wrote:
I have to say, going to the finals live kind of sucked.
Having a seat on the top row shouldn't have had as much of an impact on the show that it did. I had it kind of okay because I could at least see the hanging screen, but the main screen was disappointing. Not only was it too small, but the lights made it almost painful to look at and obstructed view. I feel really bad for the people who were sitting in the sections further on the side. There, you can barely see the main screen (and it's still obstructed), and you can't see the hanging screens. If they had two more screens - one for each side of the arena, it would have been perfect.
Being on the top row, I didn't expect the sound to be all the great. It wasn't only not great, but anything anyone said was barely audible. Unless the casters were yelling, I couldn't make out anything anyone was saying. The analyst desk was impossible to listen to because of this.
My girlfriend and I went outside to buy merchandise at the beginning of game 2, but we ended up just sitting outside watching the game to the end on the TVs out in the lobby. The quality was just as good, but the difference was there was no obstruction. The audio also bled through the room and was actually louder in the lobby than where we were sitting. Honestly, I think we should have just stayed outside and watched the whole finals there.
The games were also kind of disappointing. Game 1 and 3 were so one sided that it was kind of sad. Game 2 was good, but it was still kind of sad that Royal lost.
The only good things that came out of the finals were the merchandise and the fact that we could leave early. They made the event at a great time for the people going to the event, but I think everyone on the 3rd deck would have had a better time enjoying the show at home. :/ To be fair, this is true for most sports events in arenas or stadiums, unless you get really good seats. Basically you are there for the atmosphere. If you want good view and sound, it is always better from home on your big screen TV. At least in football/basketball/baseball, you can see everything when you go to a game! And you can hear everything at a concert. This was my view of the stage: + Show Spoiler +There were actually quite a few people who did end up leaving their seats just to watch the games outside, which is kind of sad. It's hard to get excited and into the atmosphere when you can barely see/hear what's going on - which you can do at any other sporting event. pretty sure those seats would be terrible even if the Lakers were playing not sure how this is a critizim of esports. lets be honest here since the popularity of HDTV going to any sporting event E or traditional has been for atmosphere over viewing experience. you haven't seen bad seats if you weren't at the Final Four held at the Metrodome. The part about it being bad for a basketball game is completely false. Pictures of Staples Center from http://aviewfrommyseat.com/View from bottom of the top deck/ + Show Spoiler +View from the middle of the top deck. + Show Spoiler +These are less than 5 rows from the top. + Show Spoiler +This last one is closest to my seat (top row). + Show Spoiler + I've actually been to a game up that high before you can show all the internet photographs you want the view of the game is terrible.
I have too, but the point is that you can see everything. You couldn't see everything at the world championships. This was almost like having the jumbo tron cover the other half of the court, which doesn't happen at a basketball game at Staples Center.
With the lights in the way, you can't see the kill score, gold differential, and the minimap isn't even big enough for people to reliably distinguish between characters. Do you see where the countdown is on the screen? That wasn't part of the in game spectating. That whole section, from left to right, was just the team logos.
This was taken with a camera that was zoomed in x30 or x40, I forgot which.
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My view was actually bearable, but for the outer 6 sections on the top deck, and the some of the outer sections of the 2nd deck, all you saw was the screen from the side and banners would be blocking it from some really bad seats. That's at least a couple hundred people that got shafted because of poor planning and trying to cram too many people into seats that didn't allow people to see anything.
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to be fair to you, at a sporting event where your seats are really bad and you have to rely on watching the big screen you are getting an inferior view to the people in the good seats, with e-sports a couple good placed TVs here and there and really there are no bad seats.
Newer stadiums are nice, like if you go to the Xcell center and it's not so bad, but trust me if you sit in the upper deck at an older venue like the Target center, you cannot see shit from the upper deck (not that you'd ever have to sit there anymore)
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On October 06 2013 04:30 Slusher wrote:
to be fair to you, at a sporting event where your seats are really bad and you have to rely on watching the big screen you are getting an inferior view to the people in the good seats, with e-sports a couple good placed TVs here and there and really there are no bad seats.
Newer stadiums are nice, like if you go to the Xcell center and it's not so bad, but trust me if you sit in the upper deck at an older venue like the Target center, you cannot see shit from the upper deck (not that you'd ever have to sit there anymore)
Like I said earlier, if there were just two more screens - one on each side of the venue, it would have been perfect for basically everybody. I don't know what they were limited by, but there were only two extra screens to the left of me facing the 3rd deck. I could see it alright, but everything on the screen was small. From where I was sitting, it was like looking at 24 inch TV from your living room couch except you're off to the side. The people sitting in the middle sections had it great, though.
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Everyone sitting near me were either Rioters or affiliated with them. Still couldn't see any numbers on the main screen.
The floor right above the ground floor had it's own bar with bartenders lol
Turns out I didn't actually take any good shots of my view:
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Just seems like such a waste to only have finals there  Leading with 3rd place game into finals I think would have been really awesome. Even if both series are shit it's at least a full days worth of excitement.
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On October 06 2013 04:53 Numy wrote:Just seems like such a waste to only have finals there Leading with 3rd place game into finals I think would have been really awesome. Even if both series are shit it's at least a full days worth of excitement.
Being there live was still really cool. Like waiting outside the Staples Center with all the fans, seeing the cosplay, randomly running running into pros while going to get coffee. The social aspect was amazing.
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So, when you gunna post all the pics?
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Is there a way to see what kind of runes and setups they used when playing the finals, thanks in advance.
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On October 05 2013 21:41 Zergneedsfood wrote:I'm just sad Royal lost 'tis all. SKT T1 were just too good, they played fantastic, and honestly people didn't know what they were talking about if they expected like a Royal 3-1 or 3-0 and even 3-2 was stretching for it and going into the depths of fanboism but eh...still sad that it didn't happen.
Cheep and Neo will probably tell you I'm an enormous Royal fanboy, but expecting anything other than T1 winning 3-0 or 3-1 is not fanboyism--it's delusional ignorance.
On October 06 2013 03:47 Slusher wrote:
it also just was not a very evenly matched final, despite what the casters tried to sell.
This.
People who thought this final was going to be close in any way are either totally delusional or are the bandwagon Royal fans who only jumped on at Worlds don't actually have a clue about how good they are/aren't.
I was pretty sure of a 3-0 after game 1, tbh.
On October 05 2013 15:38 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2013 15:36 Ryuu314 wrote:On October 05 2013 15:34 FiWiFaKi wrote:
This was pretty underwhelming compared to TI3... For League of Legends standards, how good is this production? I watched both TI3 and this championship. Honestly, the production value for LoL Worlds was better, but the actual games in TI3 were WAY better and far more hype making (for me) TI3 the better event to experience. I don't know if I'm completely unbiased, but last year I was bitching at Riot a lot for their really poor production and how TI2 blew them out of the water. However, I have to say this year it's hands down better for LoL than TI. There was just a lot more coverage and improvements overall. TI3 felt really rushed because you had only 3 weeks so it was just game after game after game with not much in between. The fact that someone who wasn't even part of the Dota scene was the highlight of TI3 says a lot imo. The final games were definitely much better though, but that has nothing to do with production.
I don't really agree with this at all.
I think your view is colored by the fact that compared to last year, S3 Worlds is a much more novel experience compared to S2 Worlds than TI3 was to TI2 (Valve basically went with the formula of "we have something that works, so we'll just polish up some of the details and stick with more or less the same thing rather than do something radically different"). S3 Worlds feels better because it's new to you. But in terms of overall production, I think they were fairly similar, with TI3 coming out slightly ahead, with the aforementioned between-game filler content being much better and more memorable, despite having less of it (the breaks between games were a LOT shorter at TI, mostly because Valve has the whole team swapping thing down to a science).
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TI3 just looking at the storylines was pretty special. Another western team rising to the top after so long it just being Navi vs the world. Orange and mushi showing they are no longer just a team that is skilled but unable to play the longer game. China going through a troubling period but TF and DK fighting against the odds. Liquid finally overcoming LGD. Navi scrapping through to the finals. The epic Western showdown that finally concluded with a resounding message of Puppey finally figuring out Alliance(Which no one else could) but Alliance managing to scrape through for the win.
Worlds had the production but not the storylines. It's just the fault of the format. I guess if you look at the whole season the storylines are more about the individual regions than worlds itself. The C9 stomp and SKT T1 fight to get to worlds. Gamia bears beating the odds and making it. M5 scraping through. It's novel but I can't help but feel worlds itself should create more
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