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On June 17 2013 03:52 Zhiroo wrote:
Why does the youtube stream stay on 'Please stand by.' forever anyone know? Twitch is unwatchable...
Works for me. Link here just in case you don't have the right one.
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WOW cannot believe Khazix survived that.
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has khazix lost a single game yet ?
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So EU is gonna have a team with 5-0 after the first week as well. This is interesting.
On June 17 2013 03:55 Lylat wrote:
AND ANOTHER STOMP
Happy Bday 
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Soo.. That Kha'zix again..
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WhiteDog will jump on me for "hyping MYM" but way they control dragon, blue and push towers is astonishing. They sure have learned they lesson after DB games.
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On June 17 2013 03:54 Schnurres wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 03:35 WhiteDog wrote:On June 17 2013 03:34 wei2coolman wrote:On June 17 2013 03:26 Schnurres wrote:On June 17 2013 03:19 AsnSensation wrote:
So far nobody's been able to punish czaru for taking TP everytime, maybe Peke can. How can u punish it? It is just less kill potential and map presence/roaming and later splitpushing. It is nothing u can really punish like not having flash as summoners and something like kha or ori. Ignite isn't mandatory on an ap mid. teleport fits czarus and myms playstyle way more That is how you can abuse it. You can play a lot more aggressive against someone with no kill potential. If you know you can win a full engage all the time; you're gunna play all-in all the time without really getting punished for it. Yeah, taking teleport and not ignite means you cannot really 1vs1, you accept to lose lane dominance for map presence. punishing this is almost impossible because the trend is, that you don't fight that much in midlane anymore but you go roam and get kills on other lanes. And when you got a kill you most of the times use the ignite, but you would get the kill anyways. Ignite on mid is good, but imo a bit overrated. And Czaru and mym has this playstyle since forever and you can't really punish it. They never lost a game because of czaru having ingite. Disengaging in 1 vs 1 is esier than anything else. so you can just avoid all in fights in midlane and focus on farming and harassing. That is what czaru does and it works well for him
Of course you can punish it, and xPeke did it, by forcing Czaru out of lane early.
You just can't fucking punish Kha because he is imba and retarded as fuck.
On June 17 2013 03:55 Emnel wrote:
WhiteDog will jump on me for "hyping MYM" but way they control dragon, blue and push towers is astonishing. They sure have learned they lesson after DB games.
Yeah more like Elise, Blue buff Ez and Kha Zix.
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Sadly, to me, this is not MyM being strong, this is fnatic, and by extension EU, being weak.
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On June 17 2013 03:55 RouaF wrote:
has khazix lost a single game yet ?
Ys, NiP lost their first match with Kha
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Really good game. Only became stompy at the end.
Extremely impressive objective control by MYM.
MYM didnt win because of just champions, they played better.
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What is the win-rate on Khazix this week?
Note: I don't think he's the reason why mym won - their objective control was fantastic.
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GG MYM SO GUD! This split is going to be so much more fun than the other since you don't have to pick the raisins of the games since you can't know who beats whom this time.
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On June 17 2013 03:54 Schnurres wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 03:35 WhiteDog wrote:On June 17 2013 03:34 wei2coolman wrote:On June 17 2013 03:26 Schnurres wrote:On June 17 2013 03:19 AsnSensation wrote:
So far nobody's been able to punish czaru for taking TP everytime, maybe Peke can. How can u punish it? It is just less kill potential and map presence/roaming and later splitpushing. It is nothing u can really punish like not having flash as summoners and something like kha or ori. Ignite isn't mandatory on an ap mid. teleport fits czarus and myms playstyle way more That is how you can abuse it. You can play a lot more aggressive against someone with no kill potential. If you know you can win a full engage all the time; you're gunna play all-in all the time without really getting punished for it. Yeah, taking teleport and not ignite means you cannot really 1vs1, you accept to lose lane dominance for map presence. punishing this is almost impossible because the trend is, that you don't fight that much in midlane anymore but you go roam and get kills on other lanes. And when you got a kill you most of the times use the ignite, but you would get the kill anyways. Ignite on mid is good, but imo a bit overrated. And Czaru and mym has this playstyle since forever and you can't really punish it. They never lost a game because of czaru having ingite. Disengaging in 1 vs 1 is esier than anything else. so you can just avoid all in fights in midlane and focus on farming and harassing. That is what czaru does and it works well for him
I'm guessing you've never seen Regi play midlane.
On June 17 2013 03:57 Swords wrote:
What is the win-rate on Khazix this week?
Note: I don't think he's the reason why mym won - their objective control was fantastic.
0% in OGN finals. HUE.
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On June 17 2013 03:57 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 03:54 Schnurres wrote:On June 17 2013 03:35 WhiteDog wrote:On June 17 2013 03:34 wei2coolman wrote:On June 17 2013 03:26 Schnurres wrote:On June 17 2013 03:19 AsnSensation wrote:
So far nobody's been able to punish czaru for taking TP everytime, maybe Peke can. How can u punish it? It is just less kill potential and map presence/roaming and later splitpushing. It is nothing u can really punish like not having flash as summoners and something like kha or ori. Ignite isn't mandatory on an ap mid. teleport fits czarus and myms playstyle way more That is how you can abuse it. You can play a lot more aggressive against someone with no kill potential. If you know you can win a full engage all the time; you're gunna play all-in all the time without really getting punished for it. Yeah, taking teleport and not ignite means you cannot really 1vs1, you accept to lose lane dominance for map presence. punishing this is almost impossible because the trend is, that you don't fight that much in midlane anymore but you go roam and get kills on other lanes. And when you got a kill you most of the times use the ignite, but you would get the kill anyways. Ignite on mid is good, but imo a bit overrated. And Czaru and mym has this playstyle since forever and you can't really punish it. They never lost a game because of czaru having ingite. Disengaging in 1 vs 1 is esier than anything else. so you can just avoid all in fights in midlane and focus on farming and harassing. That is what czaru does and it works well for him I'm guessing you've never seen Regi play midlane.
Or Alternate midlane <.<
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Poll: Recommend MYM vs Fnatic Summer Week 1?Yes (6) 75% If you have time (2) 25% No (0) 0% 8 total votes Your vote: Recommend MYM vs Fnatic Summer Week 1? (Vote): Yes
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(Vote): If you have time
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On June 17 2013 03:58 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 03:57 wei2coolman wrote:On June 17 2013 03:54 Schnurres wrote:On June 17 2013 03:35 WhiteDog wrote:On June 17 2013 03:34 wei2coolman wrote:On June 17 2013 03:26 Schnurres wrote:On June 17 2013 03:19 AsnSensation wrote:
So far nobody's been able to punish czaru for taking TP everytime, maybe Peke can. How can u punish it? It is just less kill potential and map presence/roaming and later splitpushing. It is nothing u can really punish like not having flash as summoners and something like kha or ori. Ignite isn't mandatory on an ap mid. teleport fits czarus and myms playstyle way more That is how you can abuse it. You can play a lot more aggressive against someone with no kill potential. If you know you can win a full engage all the time; you're gunna play all-in all the time without really getting punished for it. Yeah, taking teleport and not ignite means you cannot really 1vs1, you accept to lose lane dominance for map presence. punishing this is almost impossible because the trend is, that you don't fight that much in midlane anymore but you go roam and get kills on other lanes. And when you got a kill you most of the times use the ignite, but you would get the kill anyways. Ignite on mid is good, but imo a bit overrated. And Czaru and mym has this playstyle since forever and you can't really punish it. They never lost a game because of czaru having ingite. Disengaging in 1 vs 1 is esier than anything else. so you can just avoid all in fights in midlane and focus on farming and harassing. That is what czaru does and it works well for him I'm guessing you've never seen Regi play midlane. Or Alternate midlane <.<
To be honest I thought xpeke misplayed out midlane. Sinking in 700 gold into ToG, when Kha goes Teleport was a mistake. Should have gone a much more aggressive AP build.
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On June 17 2013 03:57 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 03:54 Schnurres wrote:On June 17 2013 03:35 WhiteDog wrote:On June 17 2013 03:34 wei2coolman wrote:On June 17 2013 03:26 Schnurres wrote:On June 17 2013 03:19 AsnSensation wrote:
So far nobody's been able to punish czaru for taking TP everytime, maybe Peke can. How can u punish it? It is just less kill potential and map presence/roaming and later splitpushing. It is nothing u can really punish like not having flash as summoners and something like kha or ori. Ignite isn't mandatory on an ap mid. teleport fits czarus and myms playstyle way more That is how you can abuse it. You can play a lot more aggressive against someone with no kill potential. If you know you can win a full engage all the time; you're gunna play all-in all the time without really getting punished for it. Yeah, taking teleport and not ignite means you cannot really 1vs1, you accept to lose lane dominance for map presence. punishing this is almost impossible because the trend is, that you don't fight that much in midlane anymore but you go roam and get kills on other lanes. And when you got a kill you most of the times use the ignite, but you would get the kill anyways. Ignite on mid is good, but imo a bit overrated. And Czaru and mym has this playstyle since forever and you can't really punish it. They never lost a game because of czaru having ingite. Disengaging in 1 vs 1 is esier than anything else. so you can just avoid all in fights in midlane and focus on farming and harassing. That is what czaru does and it works well for him I'm guessing you've never seen Regi play midlane.
Na midlanes are far worse then EU midlanes in my Eyes. EU Midlanes are amongst the best of the world and if you just look through the EU LCS midlaner they are (almost) all world class.
Czarus does this vs the EU midlaners and the best of the world for month very succesfull and it is extremly hard to punsih it. After you got used to not having idnite you can judge your damage a lot better and can choose engages more wisely because you know exactly how much dmg you do and when you should back
@shikyo: actually Forellenlord never was an extremly lane dominant midplayer. When you watched his stream when he was on 1700-300 you saw, that he didn't win his lane most of the times. But he played mainly TF and Ori. With ori he just landed the best ultimates and won teamfights for his team and so the game. With Tf he used his ulti and poke to the best extent and made so his other lanes win.
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On June 17 2013 04:04 Schnurres wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 03:57 wei2coolman wrote:On June 17 2013 03:54 Schnurres wrote:On June 17 2013 03:35 WhiteDog wrote:On June 17 2013 03:34 wei2coolman wrote:On June 17 2013 03:26 Schnurres wrote:On June 17 2013 03:19 AsnSensation wrote:
So far nobody's been able to punish czaru for taking TP everytime, maybe Peke can. How can u punish it? It is just less kill potential and map presence/roaming and later splitpushing. It is nothing u can really punish like not having flash as summoners and something like kha or ori. Ignite isn't mandatory on an ap mid. teleport fits czarus and myms playstyle way more That is how you can abuse it. You can play a lot more aggressive against someone with no kill potential. If you know you can win a full engage all the time; you're gunna play all-in all the time without really getting punished for it. Yeah, taking teleport and not ignite means you cannot really 1vs1, you accept to lose lane dominance for map presence. punishing this is almost impossible because the trend is, that you don't fight that much in midlane anymore but you go roam and get kills on other lanes. And when you got a kill you most of the times use the ignite, but you would get the kill anyways. Ignite on mid is good, but imo a bit overrated. And Czaru and mym has this playstyle since forever and you can't really punish it. They never lost a game because of czaru having ingite. Disengaging in 1 vs 1 is esier than anything else. so you can just avoid all in fights in midlane and focus on farming and harassing. That is what czaru does and it works well for him I'm guessing you've never seen Regi play midlane. Na midlanes are far worse then EU midlanes in my Eyes. EU Midlanes are amongst the best of the world and if you just look through the EU LCS midlaner they are (almost) all world class. Czarus does this vs the EU midlaners and the best of the world for month very succesfull and it is extremly hard to punsih it. After you got used to not having idnite you can judge your damage a lot better and can choose engages more wisely because you know exactly how much dmg you do and when you should back
I'm not saying Regi is better than EU midlaners; but what I'm saying is very aggressive midlaners PUNISH the shit out of players who pick up teleport in mid.
With that being said; teleport isn't a bad pick for midlane in certain situations.
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On June 17 2013 04:04 Schnurres wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 03:57 wei2coolman wrote:On June 17 2013 03:54 Schnurres wrote:On June 17 2013 03:35 WhiteDog wrote:On June 17 2013 03:34 wei2coolman wrote:On June 17 2013 03:26 Schnurres wrote:On June 17 2013 03:19 AsnSensation wrote:
So far nobody's been able to punish czaru for taking TP everytime, maybe Peke can. How can u punish it? It is just less kill potential and map presence/roaming and later splitpushing. It is nothing u can really punish like not having flash as summoners and something like kha or ori. Ignite isn't mandatory on an ap mid. teleport fits czarus and myms playstyle way more That is how you can abuse it. You can play a lot more aggressive against someone with no kill potential. If you know you can win a full engage all the time; you're gunna play all-in all the time without really getting punished for it. Yeah, taking teleport and not ignite means you cannot really 1vs1, you accept to lose lane dominance for map presence. punishing this is almost impossible because the trend is, that you don't fight that much in midlane anymore but you go roam and get kills on other lanes. And when you got a kill you most of the times use the ignite, but you would get the kill anyways. Ignite on mid is good, but imo a bit overrated. And Czaru and mym has this playstyle since forever and you can't really punish it. They never lost a game because of czaru having ingite. Disengaging in 1 vs 1 is esier than anything else. so you can just avoid all in fights in midlane and focus on farming and harassing. That is what czaru does and it works well for him I'm guessing you've never seen Regi play midlane. Na midlanes are far worse then EU midlanes in my Eyes. EU Midlanes are amongst the best of the world and if you just look through the EU LCS midlaner they are (almost) all world class. Czarus does this vs the EU midlaners and the best of the world for month very succesfull and it is extremly hard to punsih it. After you got used to not having idnite you can judge your damage a lot better and can choose engages more wisely because you know exactly how much dmg you do and when you should back
Actually he failed at that 2 or 3 times in their 3rd game.
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