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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 17 2013 20:28 GMT
#1501
Always getting Ocelote is boring. I know he's the brand and stuff of SK, but have them send somebody else for once ~_~
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Calliopee
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark151 Posts
June 17 2013 20:29 GMT
#1502
Wow take a break from the proscene for a couple months and come back to my wolves being ninjas and then loosing almost everything? Was it atleast close matches? Really had (have) high expectations for them to do well this season.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
June 17 2013 20:30 GMT
#1503
No. Ninjas in Pajamas looked pretty terrible in all of their losses.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
June 17 2013 20:30 GMT
#1504
EG keeps fogetting ryse top doesn't work without an agressive jungle or mid >.>
Go go Alliance.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 20:31:59
June 17 2013 20:31 GMT
#1505
Oh, Kerp has top KDA in EU LCS at 17.5

He's kind of invisibly never died

Creaton in the second place at 16 KDA. By the way, his last name, Grzegorzewski, is fun to pronounce.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 20:33:46
June 17 2013 20:32 GMT
#1506
I know some see it as excuses, but it really has to be said how much that Moscow trip fucked up the preparation of the EU teams. Ocelote just hinted to that as well.
The last 10 days before Dreamhack when teams were about to really start with the training, they suddenly had to leave Germany and go to their home countries trying to get visas. Might be some still dont have them.
Off-season = best season
Calliopee
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark151 Posts
June 17 2013 20:33 GMT
#1507
On June 18 2013 05:30 Nitan wrote:
No. Ninjas in Pajamas looked pretty terrible in all of their losses.


That's a shame - oh well, still a good 9 rounds to make up for this!
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 17 2013 20:34 GMT
#1508
oh well, off to watch Jaedong win Dreamhack
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9246 Posts
June 17 2013 20:41 GMT
#1509
On June 18 2013 05:32 Redox wrote:
I know some see it as excuses, but it really has to be said how much that Moscow trip fucked up the preparation of the EU teams. Ocelote just hinted to that as well.
The last 10 days before Dreamhack when teams were about to really start with the training, they suddenly had to leave Germany and go to their home countries trying to get visas. Might be some still dont have them.

It's not ideal but it affects everyone, I don't know why this would apply as an excuse to EG or SK in particular. And SK didn't even have anyone at All-Star so that point is moot. Sure, getting visas is an incovenince but it took them a couple of days of travelling back and forth at most. There were 3 weeks between All-Star and DH, you think if EG had 1-2 days more they would have suddenly crushed everyone?

It's actually better that they get it done now than in the middle of the season, I guess Riot had to throw a bone to the new region but after that there's enough weeks in Cologne so everyone can get their shit together.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-17 21:37:04
June 17 2013 21:16 GMT
#1510
On June 18 2013 05:41 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 05:32 Redox wrote:
I know some see it as excuses, but it really has to be said how much that Moscow trip fucked up the preparation of the EU teams. Ocelote just hinted to that as well.
The last 10 days before Dreamhack when teams were about to really start with the training, they suddenly had to leave Germany and go to their home countries trying to get visas. Might be some still dont have them.

It's not ideal but it affects everyone, I don't know why this would apply as an excuse to EG or SK in particular. And SK didn't even have anyone at All-Star so that point is moot. Sure, getting visas is an incovenince but it took them a couple of days of travelling back and forth at most. There were 3 weeks between All-Star and DH, you think if EG had 1-2 days more they would have suddenly crushed everyone?

It's actually better that they get it done now than in the middle of the season, I guess Riot had to throw a bone to the new region but after that there's enough weeks in Cologne so everyone can get their shit together.

I was not at all talking about EG or Sk specifically. I would have written the same if EG or SK or whoever went 5-0.
Yes it effected most teams (though not Gambit and teams from 1 country like MYM to a lesser extent), and it really showed. Level of play was really bad overall.
And its not only a few days. Ocelote was in Spain for a week for example, froggen and Wickd 10 days. These are the only ones where I know it, but its probably similar for others.
You might question it when teams only begin to practice 2 weeks before the season starts, but on the other hand at some point they deserve to have a vacation as well.

I really hope you are only defending Riot here because of the excuse angle. Because it is really bad to announce a trip to Moscow only 2.5 weeks before it happens, 1.5 weeks before the season starts. Because there is always a good chance that something doesnt work out right away with a visa. Especially with a country like Russia. Normally you should have at least 2 months in advance.

It would be pure luck if all players make it to Moscow. And we would have seen way better games without this crap, from all teams.
Off-season = best season
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 17 2013 21:23 GMT
#1511
Yea Riot really fucked up by making the plans so late. The trip itself isn't the issue it's the timing of it all.
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
June 17 2013 22:27 GMT
#1512
On June 18 2013 03:11 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 03:08 AsnSensation wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks fnatic won't replace yellowstar unless he underperforms or wants to go back to study? like the 3 losses this weekend weren't really his fault, pretty much everyone derped in those games.

No matter if they do it or not, these 3 games will surely not influence the decision. More important might be if Yellowstar wants to go back to studying as he said at one point.
I bet they already know what will happen for months now. I would bet that its planned all along that Rekkles will be part of the main team again, otherwise tehy would not have kept him.

Yeah nRated said in an interview that Yellowstar is not at Rekless level... When the shotcaller and support of the team says that kind of thing, I'm pretty sure he will definetly ask for Rekless return as soon as he can.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Flicky
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
England2675 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 10:14:02
June 19 2013 10:13 GMT
#1513
Just some notes – I have interpreted a lot of what was said so that it is more natural to an English reader and removes unusual sentence formatting or word choice. If you notice any changes that completely remove the original intended meaning, please let me know. Original article is from readmore.de.. I didn't think it warranted its own thread but was interesting to see what Alternate were up to.

ForellenLord: We aren’t underdogs anymore.

Before the LCS Match for the Top of the Table between MeetYourMakers and Team ALTERNATE at Dreamhack Summer 2013, readmore.de spoke with with Carl 'ForellenLord' Lückmann. The german Midlaner talks about the success of Alternate, the future plans of his team and about the LCS in general.

readmore.de: You have won all of your LCS games so far and stand at the top of the table with a 4:0 score. Before you came to Dreamhack, had you expected this result and what were your feelings coming here?

Carl 'ForellenLord' Lückmann: I actually came here relatively open-minded. I didn’t have any thoughts about whether we’d win or lose. We said, we’ll just play the game and see what happens. Our preparation was actually relatively good, but things could have been better. We haven’t played very much, but we did have a really long bootcamp. That we’d be 4:0 now, with that practice, I don’t think anyone on our team predicted. Especially as we only barely made it into the LCS – we were 0:2 behind to start with. That it’s going well now, is actually rather suprising for us too.

How exactly did you prepare for the LCS?

We held a bootcamp and just scrimmed against other teams, also against LCS-Teams in some cases, like Fnatic for example. Alvar (Editor’s Note: Alvar ‘Aranaea‘ Martin Aleñar) still had exams and therefore could only fly to the house once and so we actually only had one day. That day Jree was sick and I was sick too and so we we had to stop relatively early again. Because of that, we only played solo queue most of the time, because Alvar wasn’t here or we played when he was at his house. That wasn’t optimal. We did nothing special, we have simply improved our team play and communication, due to us now having a week of boot camp behind us.

You said, you also scrimmed fnatic. What were the outcomes?

They were actually even. We won about two games, lost two.

The first week of games is only just over. Do you think that you can keep your current form for the rest of the LCS, or will you end up losing a few places?

I think that is a question of discipline. But we will see whether we can now continue training right through and keep at our current level, or whether we fall back and the other teams can catch up. A few teams haven’t trained as much as us, although we actually haven’t trained very much. We can absolutely still improve and definitely still have got the potential to be top.

Creaton has played phenomenally well in the games so far. Do you think that the switch between Metalx and Creaton was important and crucial, now that you’ve done so well?

Yes, that was, naturally, an important point. His mechanical skills are just really good. He easily gets every last hit and doesn’t die, is always positioned very well and always deals very good damage. Well, that is almost exactly what an AD-Carry must do. With Creaton we have now grown really well as a team. It was also quite accidental that we got him on the team at all. Millenium split up one or two days before we asked him and we had a meeting about the decision decision that to part with Tom (Editor’s Note: Tom ‘Metalx’ Latour) only a few days early and so actually already had other AD-Carry in prospect. That we now have such a strong player in Creaton was mostly luck and people can see how good he is.

You started as underdogs in the LCS Season. Do you think that’s an advantage, as the top teams are under a higher pressure to perform and therefore are expected to get good results? Do you think that they played worse because of this or have they simply not taken you seriously enough?

In some cases, those teams haven’t really trained much. We certainly have an advantage by coming into the tournament as underdogs, but I think we aren’t underdogs anymore.

You were still an amateur team on the road during the Spring Season. Did you find that the LCS is harmful for amateur teams as next to the LCS there isn’t any other competition?

Right now there is also a LoL tournament running for the amateur teams at Dreamhack and this also definitely gets attention. And there are also other tournaments aside from the LCS, but of course not at the level of LCS, which receive support, prize money and attention. If you aren’t in the LCS, you are naturally far outside the Community, because you get relatively little recognition despite various amateur tournaments, but I think that’s just how it is. It is the same thing with the Football Bundesliga. There is also a 1st, 2nd and 3rd League and the teams in these other leagues don’t get as much attention either.

How is your team proceeding? Are you planning to move into a gaming house?

Yes, we have a gaming house planned, but we don’t know exactly where yet. Cologne would obviously be the best option.

Araneae was repeatedly absent in the past because he was busy with his studies and you had to train with a substitute. Are all the team members now full time players after your entry into the LCS?

Yes, we will absolutely become full-time. I have now finished my Abitur (Tr. Note: School leaving exams) and it seems set for me that I will now take a year off from further education and concentrate fully on gaming first.

Next week Moscow plays host to the LCS. This stop was announced on relatively short notice and a few teams have big problems with getting a visa. Has that happened with you and will you all be in the position to travel to Moscow?

Yes, we will. We’ve had barely any problems with it, except Alvar. His passport had expired, but he already had a new one, but forgot and left it at home. However, he was at home anyway and only had to apply for his visa two days later. We don’t actually have our visas yet, but it should still all work out. We have a rather experienced team manager and so he knows about that quite well.

One final question: you play against MeetYourMakers next for first place in the LCS Table. How do you judge your chances? (Editor’s note: The interview was conducted yesterday, before the aTn-MYM game)

I think that we have a good chance. However, I am also quite surprised that they have done so well, but maybe they will just stomp us like the other teams before us. We will have to see.

Readmore.de thanks you for the interview.
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KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
June 19 2013 11:28 GMT
#1514
^ Thanks for the translation =) Nice job.
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