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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
February 22 2013 05:45 GMT
#641
On February 22 2013 14:05 sylverfyre wrote:
There were a lot of conflicting calls, too. SV, Chauster, and HSGG would all be trying to make calls, often conflicting. I think chauster will do fine in the jungle, he's in a good position to lead the team, and it's working.

I'm honestly liking CLG's play more now than I have since well before SV left the team. I honestly think HSGG is getting more flak than he deserves. He's not a perfect player, but he's a lot better than people give him credit for, especially in the 1v2 lane situations, and coming out of laning phase with shit farm from a 1v2, which is so common these days.

It's TSM that I think is weak now.

Yeah, haven't watched the CLG/dig game yet but I agree CLG isn't even in that bad of a spot right now. I'd say they are still the second best NA team at the moment. Although if dig keep this up they might move up in my personal rankings. Talk about that dig turn around. Or maybe they were this good and Week 1 was just a fluke.
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Deftscythe
Profile Joined February 2011
United States228 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 05:50:01
February 22 2013 05:47 GMT
#642
Hotshot is good in 1v2 because all it requires him to do is be passive and farm, which is all he's ever wanted to do.

Dig was pretty much homeless week 1 and have been sleeping on other team's floors and couches since LCS started. They're going to keep improving as they get moved in to their new house and settled.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
February 22 2013 05:49 GMT
#643
CLG has been better results wise than with Saint, go back and check the last 12 months with Saint, then look at the 12 months since.

I don't think Saint and HSGG were that bad with each other, it feels like it was more Chauster and Saint not getting along, which is unfortunate.

TBH I can see why they made all the roster changes on CLG at the time, Saint and Voy never played this well on CLG. I think it is more Curse have just practiced harder and are reaping the rewards. As a big HSGG and CLG fan I really think he needs to expand his champion pool though and be able to play champs who can carry, you look at what he plays and it is basically CC trains built for teamfighting, but he won't win you the game if he wins his lane like Voy or any quality top laner can.

Everyone has to remember it is still reasonably early in LCS and we have 20 odd weeks to play out. CLG losing to Vulcun would have been really disappointing for them, but the loss to Dig isn't that bad, Dig have always done well against CLG historically and IMO they are right up with Curse as the two best teams (They were going toe to toe with Curse when they played then went full retard at like 20 minutes and Curse capitalised).
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
February 22 2013 05:51 GMT
#644
TSM looked pretty good vs Curse in some scrims yesterday, although it was only scrims I guess.

I still think Dyrus basically has to put the whole team on his shoulders if they want to beat Crs/Dig/CLG though, Chaox Regi and TOO have been average for a while now.
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
February 22 2013 05:52 GMT
#645
Just watched a few of the games. Happy vul got some wins, I like seeing underdogs come back a bit and their play looked pretty good in both games today.

And CLG vs dig was great.
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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 07:08:47
February 22 2013 06:49 GMT
#646
On February 22 2013 14:52 bittman wrote:
Just watched a few of the games. Happy vul got some wins, I like seeing underdogs come back a bit and their play looked pretty good in both games today.

And CLG vs dig was great.

I was very pleased with the CLG v dig game, a lot of back and forth without any embarrassing throws (Nothing like GGU v Curse). Don't expect Scarra to be allowed Kayle again though lol.

Edit: Also after catching up on the VODs please report M eye A for feeding.
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triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
February 22 2013 07:35 GMT
#647
On February 22 2013 13:00 overt wrote:
It isn't even just about Voyboy because he looked really shitty on CLG. Saintvicious looked and still looks a lot better as a jungler than Chauster and he has years more experience doing it. I'm not that annoyed about them kicking Voyboy. I never really got over them benching saint and moving Hotshot to jungle. CLG with saint was a lot stronger than CLG has been without him and he wasn't even slacking or anything when they kicked him.

Voy looked awful on CLG because he couldn't play the heroes he wanted or the style he wanted. Curse seems to let him play however he likes, which has worked a lot better.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 22 2013 07:54 GMT
#648
I just noticed that D2 is basically all bottom barrel teams.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 22 2013 07:55 GMT
#649
On February 22 2013 16:35 triangle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 13:00 overt wrote:
It isn't even just about Voyboy because he looked really shitty on CLG. Saintvicious looked and still looks a lot better as a jungler than Chauster and he has years more experience doing it. I'm not that annoyed about them kicking Voyboy. I never really got over them benching saint and moving Hotshot to jungle. CLG with saint was a lot stronger than CLG has been without him and he wasn't even slacking or anything when they kicked him.

Voy looked awful on CLG because he couldn't play the heroes he wanted or the style he wanted. Curse seems to let him play however he likes, which has worked a lot better.


I actually think Curse recognize voyboy is a good player and they build team comps around him.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
February 22 2013 08:09 GMT
#650
so thresh banned in game 1, ignored the rest of the day? kinda surprised by that.
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ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 08:32:19
February 22 2013 08:23 GMT
#651
I wonder if KiwiKid can play anything other then Singed tho...

edit: Btw, am I the only one shouting at Crumbz when scarra saved him with his ult on 5hp and mundo came...
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
February 22 2013 08:50 GMT
#652
On February 22 2013 16:35 triangle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 13:00 overt wrote:
It isn't even just about Voyboy because he looked really shitty on CLG. Saintvicious looked and still looks a lot better as a jungler than Chauster and he has years more experience doing it. I'm not that annoyed about them kicking Voyboy. I never really got over them benching saint and moving Hotshot to jungle. CLG with saint was a lot stronger than CLG has been without him and he wasn't even slacking or anything when they kicked him.

Voy looked awful on CLG because he couldn't play the heroes he wanted or the style he wanted. Curse seems to let him play however he likes, which has worked a lot better.


No, Curse just plays a much more "makes plays" centric style.

CLG used to just want to farm and go for late game, which isn't bad but it not Voyboy's style. Voy makes plays, is agressive, and draws pressure. This lead to Voyboy just looking bad because he was only one with map pressure.

It just so happens that how voy plays top lane just meshes with Saint ridiculously well. Saint wants to farm, and he damn good at it. Unlike CLG, when Voy draws map pressure, saint able to justtake map objectives, farm and be greedy jungler numero uno. When other junglers focus on keeping up with Saint, Voyboy just eats their top laner alive.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
February 22 2013 13:57 GMT
#653
Just watched the VOD of both CLG games. Like everyone, I am quite happy that Vulcun got their first win from CLG. But I am dissapointed the CLG vs DIG game turned out quite easy for DIG in the end. If Hotshot didn't stupidly used his Galio ult, maybe they could stall for a bit longer and things can change.
Love the Kayle play from Scarra though, such calm and precision!
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 22 2013 14:51 GMT
#654
On February 22 2013 17:23 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I wonder if KiwiKid can play anything other then Singed tho...

edit: Btw, am I the only one shouting at Crumbz when scarra saved him with his ult on 5hp and mundo came...

I earned a (well-deserved) warning for shouting at Dig's slopiness in the early-mid game. Good thing I've got neighbours, stops me from roaring aloud at my screen.

About day 2 being the "bottom barrel", it's not false, but it's not necessarily a bad thing. There has been a lot of stomps when seeing the "top 4" playing against the others, so some matches without any of CLG/Dig/TSM/Curse has some kind of freshness to it, plus it should allow us to gauge the teams' relative standings more easily.
As long as we don't get some ugly stuff like yesterday's Vulcun vs coL though... boy was that painful.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
February 22 2013 16:20 GMT
#655
I'm glad that the CLG games have turned out as they did. As somebody that can really only find rooting interest in TSM, CRS, and whomever is playing CLG, it was great that yesterday was relevant to me. Now today on the other hand...it doesn't look too good.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 17:27:48
February 22 2013 17:23 GMT
#656
On February 22 2013 14:49 schmutttt wrote:
CLG has been better results wise than with Saint, go back and check the last 12 months with Saint, then look at the 12 months since.


I did this... bunch of 1st place finishes with Saint, very few without him. Which is pretty much what I suspected- CLG was dominant for a while and they haven't won much recently. Also, it hasn't even been 12 months since Saint left.

CLG never adapted, they just blindly did a bunch of roster changes and hoped for the best. Put 3 CLG washouts on another team and suddenly they're crushing the NA scene? Strange how that works.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
February 22 2013 17:26 GMT
#657
On February 22 2013 17:23 ihasaKAROT wrote:
I wonder if KiwiKid can play anything other then Singed tho...

edit: Btw, am I the only one shouting at Crumbz when scarra saved him with his ult on 5hp and mundo came...

You know what, I'm convinced that Dignitas is going to abuse Kiwi's singed as long as teams let him. He has turned a mediocre 1v2 champ and shown that he can play it VERY well, and be a threat throughout the game. He's also a player that most know very little about, so I'm willing to believe that he does have a bigger repitoire, but as long as it remains hidden, he's an unknown quantity that can be abused by Dignitas. If people start banning Singed, it's an awkward ban, and I think Kiwi might be trying to earn a reputation here.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-22 17:34:10
February 22 2013 17:34 GMT
#658
Was anyone here part of the HoN scenes and knows how good Kiwi was? So far I'm pretty impressed with him tbh. and don't understand the undeserved hate he gets over and over for his tear singed :D Has worked out fine for him so far. 4 tear singed games 4 wins.
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
February 22 2013 18:10 GMT
#659
On February 22 2013 14:45 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 14:05 sylverfyre wrote:
There were a lot of conflicting calls, too. SV, Chauster, and HSGG would all be trying to make calls, often conflicting. I think chauster will do fine in the jungle, he's in a good position to lead the team, and it's working.

I'm honestly liking CLG's play more now than I have since well before SV left the team. I honestly think HSGG is getting more flak than he deserves. He's not a perfect player, but he's a lot better than people give him credit for, especially in the 1v2 lane situations, and coming out of laning phase with shit farm from a 1v2, which is so common these days.

It's TSM that I think is weak now.

Yeah, haven't watched the CLG/dig game yet but I agree CLG isn't even in that bad of a spot right now. I'd say they are still the second best NA team at the moment. Although if dig keep this up they might move up in my personal rankings. Talk about that dig turn around. Or maybe they were this good and Week 1 was just a fluke.


im sorry but HSGG played absolutely terribly on Galio. The worst point for me wasnt even when he ulted in his base by mstake, the game was pretty much over at that point. However earlier on in the game at the pivotal baron fight you can clearly see him go in 1v5 and waste his ult while the rest of his team bursted down singed. Had he stayed back a bit and been less aggressive he could've used his ult at a better time providing much needed cc for his team while they bursted down draven or kayle with no fear of a kayle ult. HSGG losing that game i think.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 22 2013 18:18 GMT
#660
On February 22 2013 17:50 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 16:35 triangle wrote:
On February 22 2013 13:00 overt wrote:
It isn't even just about Voyboy because he looked really shitty on CLG. Saintvicious looked and still looks a lot better as a jungler than Chauster and he has years more experience doing it. I'm not that annoyed about them kicking Voyboy. I never really got over them benching saint and moving Hotshot to jungle. CLG with saint was a lot stronger than CLG has been without him and he wasn't even slacking or anything when they kicked him.

Voy looked awful on CLG because he couldn't play the heroes he wanted or the style he wanted. Curse seems to let him play however he likes, which has worked a lot better.


No, Curse just plays a much more "makes plays" centric style.

CLG used to just want to farm and go for late game, which isn't bad but it not Voyboy's style. Voy makes plays, is agressive, and draws pressure. This lead to Voyboy just looking bad because he was only one with map pressure.

It just so happens that how voy plays top lane just meshes with Saint ridiculously well. Saint wants to farm, and he damn good at it. Unlike CLG, when Voy draws map pressure, saint able to justtake map objectives, farm and be greedy jungler numero uno. When other junglers focus on keeping up with Saint, Voyboy just eats their top laner alive.


Saint has also been applying a lot of map pressure with Voy though. Just feels like everything is meshing well with them. At least vs NA competition. I do hope they scrimming outside of NA just so they don't call into any bad habits.
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