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On November 29 2012 01:24 LasTLiE wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 22:42 RouaF wrote:Are crs.na good ? I thought crs.eu were way better but somehow you rank them almost last. I think they're going to do better than that  Curse NA certainly seem to be doing better than before, at least judging from their recent games in the SoloMid Series. Winning two in a row, beating TSM both times(although TSM has seemed to be under performing lately - but that's another topic entirely). While I do think they're playing better, I don't know if it'll be enough to go toe-to-toe with the top Asian or European teams.
I'm really curious how their double assasin combo (with voyboy and nyjacky on diana/kat/akali) will work out in the LAN environment. I'm almost 100% sure that they are going to show it at IPL5
Also, the bruiser mid that Fnatic(?) beat CLG.EU with at Dreamhack. Hopefully we'll see something of that.
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On November 28 2012 22:26 Lysteria wrote:
I would not put Dignitas behind FeaR.
To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team.
Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational.
mancloud, please step it up. FeaR just going to dwindle around B tier otherwise.
dig is still top 3 in NA imo, despite an amazing throwing arm. zz
On November 28 2012 22:42 RouaF wrote:Are crs.na good ? I thought crs.eu were way better but somehow you rank them almost last. I think they're going to do better than that
Crs.eu is much better but after reading about Crs.eu's attitude after winning TotL, it's massively disappointing.
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On November 29 2012 02:37 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 22:26 Lysteria wrote:
I would not put Dignitas behind FeaR.
To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team.
Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational. mancloud, please step it up. FeaR just going to dwindle around B tier otherwise. dig is still top 3 in NA imo, despite an amazing throwing arm. zz Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 22:42 RouaF wrote:Are crs.na good ? I thought crs.eu were way better but somehow you rank them almost last. I think they're going to do better than that Crs.eu is much better but after reading about Crs.eu's attitude after winning TotL, it's massively disappointing.
What did they do ?
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On November 29 2012 02:41 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 02:37 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 28 2012 22:26 Lysteria wrote:
I would not put Dignitas behind FeaR.
To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team.
Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational. mancloud, please step it up. FeaR just going to dwindle around B tier otherwise. dig is still top 3 in NA imo, despite an amazing throwing arm. zz On November 28 2012 22:42 RouaF wrote:Are crs.na good ? I thought crs.eu were way better but somehow you rank them almost last. I think they're going to do better than that Crs.eu is much better but after reading about Crs.eu's attitude after winning TotL, it's massively disappointing. What did they do ?
The name escapes me right now nor can I find the thread on reddit but the Crs.eu member (Support player iirc) who just quit the team right before IPL5 said that Crs.eu just became lackidasical and partied hard after winning TotL. They did zero prep for DHW12 and as a result, they failed to make it out of Group Stage.
I stressed this a lot in the DreamHack wrap-up. A team that goes from winning a tournament to failing to make it out of groups has big issues.
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On November 29 2012 02:46 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 02:41 WhiteDog wrote:On November 29 2012 02:37 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 28 2012 22:26 Lysteria wrote:
I would not put Dignitas behind FeaR.
To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team.
Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational. mancloud, please step it up. FeaR just going to dwindle around B tier otherwise. dig is still top 3 in NA imo, despite an amazing throwing arm. zz On November 28 2012 22:42 RouaF wrote:Are crs.na good ? I thought crs.eu were way better but somehow you rank them almost last. I think they're going to do better than that Crs.eu is much better but after reading about Crs.eu's attitude after winning TotL, it's massively disappointing. What did they do ? The name escapes me right now nor can I find the thread on reddit but the Crs.eu member (Support player iirc) who just quit the team right before IPL5 said that Crs.eu just became lackidasical and partied hard after winning TotL. They did zero prep for DHW12 and as a result, they failed to make it out of Group Stage. I stressed this a lot in the DreamHack wrap-up. A team that goes from winning a tournament to failing to make it out of groups has big issues.
You should do summaries similar to the GSL ones posted by Waxangel and co.
I freaking love reading those at work, when I can't watch streams but just gotta know what happened.
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On November 29 2012 03:01 Crownlol wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 02:46 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 29 2012 02:41 WhiteDog wrote:On November 29 2012 02:37 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 28 2012 22:26 Lysteria wrote:
I would not put Dignitas behind FeaR.
To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team.
Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational. mancloud, please step it up. FeaR just going to dwindle around B tier otherwise. dig is still top 3 in NA imo, despite an amazing throwing arm. zz On November 28 2012 22:42 RouaF wrote:Are crs.na good ? I thought crs.eu were way better but somehow you rank them almost last. I think they're going to do better than that Crs.eu is much better but after reading about Crs.eu's attitude after winning TotL, it's massively disappointing. What did they do ? The name escapes me right now nor can I find the thread on reddit but the Crs.eu member (Support player iirc) who just quit the team right before IPL5 said that Crs.eu just became lackidasical and partied hard after winning TotL. They did zero prep for DHW12 and as a result, they failed to make it out of Group Stage. I stressed this a lot in the DreamHack wrap-up. A team that goes from winning a tournament to failing to make it out of groups has big issues. You should do summaries similar to the GSL ones posted by Waxangel and co. I freaking love reading those at work, when I can't watch streams but just gotta know what happened.
Link?
Depending on how busy I am at IPL5, I may or may not do it when I get back to the hotel at the end of the night. :O
Not knowing my role at IPL5 yet really hinders what I can plan to do for TL.
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On November 28 2012 22:26 Lysteria wrote:
I would not put Dignitas behind FeaR.
To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team.
Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational.
I love aphromoo, but I think he is pretty overrated. In my opinion, his laning phase is very up and down, and his late game play is worse than other top NA ADs (qtpie, Chaox, doublelift). He's solid, and able to play with the best, but nothing special imo.
I think FeaR's main strengths right now are mancloud, and xmithie. Mancloud is a beast right now, definetely up there with jiji, scarra and jacky as the best mids in NA. Xmithie is up there with saint and chauster as the strongest junglers in NA right now, with TOO and dominate not playing too well.
I think FeaR's strength is that they have 3 solid lanes (gosu zuna also looking pretty good right now) and a good jungler. Their weaknesses are that they don't have any standout player (think doublelift, jacky) to provide that ace in the hole, and they don't have as much experience in team fights as CLG, TSM, Dig or Curse.
Imo as it is, they won't beat any of the top tier teams in a series (except for TSM LOL), but I think they're contesting with Quantic for 5th best team in NA.
Still 22hrs away zz :/
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If an NA team is going to break out and show the world that we're not a doormat, i really want it to be one with a good work ethic. Right now I'm not convinced that's any of them.
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On November 29 2012 03:03 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 03:01 Crownlol wrote:On November 29 2012 02:46 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 29 2012 02:41 WhiteDog wrote:On November 29 2012 02:37 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 28 2012 22:26 Lysteria wrote:
I would not put Dignitas behind FeaR.
To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team.
Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational. mancloud, please step it up. FeaR just going to dwindle around B tier otherwise. dig is still top 3 in NA imo, despite an amazing throwing arm. zz On November 28 2012 22:42 RouaF wrote:Are crs.na good ? I thought crs.eu were way better but somehow you rank them almost last. I think they're going to do better than that Crs.eu is much better but after reading about Crs.eu's attitude after winning TotL, it's massively disappointing. What did they do ? The name escapes me right now nor can I find the thread on reddit but the Crs.eu member (Support player iirc) who just quit the team right before IPL5 said that Crs.eu just became lackidasical and partied hard after winning TotL. They did zero prep for DHW12 and as a result, they failed to make it out of Group Stage. I stressed this a lot in the DreamHack wrap-up. A team that goes from winning a tournament to failing to make it out of groups has big issues. You should do summaries similar to the GSL ones posted by Waxangel and co. I freaking love reading those at work, when I can't watch streams but just gotta know what happened. Link? Depending on how busy I am at IPL5, I may or may not do it when I get back to the hotel at the end of the night. :O Not knowing my role at IPL5 yet really hinders what I can plan to do for TL.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383510 <- Here's a good example.
Recap of the games, background on both players, who won, how each game developed, the strategy of each player, how each player executed that strategy, and previews/predictions for next week. Waxangel is known for his somewhat scathing reviews - he doesn't pull punches about players not practicing or making mistakes. The LoL version would include pick/bans as well, I assume.
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On November 29 2012 04:00 Crownlol wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 03:03 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 29 2012 03:01 Crownlol wrote:On November 29 2012 02:46 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 29 2012 02:41 WhiteDog wrote:On November 29 2012 02:37 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 28 2012 22:26 Lysteria wrote:
I would not put Dignitas behind FeaR.
To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team.
Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational. mancloud, please step it up. FeaR just going to dwindle around B tier otherwise. dig is still top 3 in NA imo, despite an amazing throwing arm. zz On November 28 2012 22:42 RouaF wrote:Are crs.na good ? I thought crs.eu were way better but somehow you rank them almost last. I think they're going to do better than that Crs.eu is much better but after reading about Crs.eu's attitude after winning TotL, it's massively disappointing. What did they do ? The name escapes me right now nor can I find the thread on reddit but the Crs.eu member (Support player iirc) who just quit the team right before IPL5 said that Crs.eu just became lackidasical and partied hard after winning TotL. They did zero prep for DHW12 and as a result, they failed to make it out of Group Stage. I stressed this a lot in the DreamHack wrap-up. A team that goes from winning a tournament to failing to make it out of groups has big issues. You should do summaries similar to the GSL ones posted by Waxangel and co. I freaking love reading those at work, when I can't watch streams but just gotta know what happened. Link? Depending on how busy I am at IPL5, I may or may not do it when I get back to the hotel at the end of the night. :O Not knowing my role at IPL5 yet really hinders what I can plan to do for TL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383510 <- Here's a good example. Recap of the games, background on both players, who won, how each game developed, the strategy of each player, how each player executed that strategy, and previews/predictions for next week. Waxangel is known for his somewhat scathing reviews - he doesn't pull punches about players not practicing or making mistakes. The LoL version would include pick/bans as well, I assume.
A terror with how many games are played each day, haha.
But I plan on jotting down notes for all the games I watch, along with TL LoL staff. If there is a seriously good match/set, I'll stay up to write up a recap of it.
That's how much I like you guys.
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It might be an interesting idea to try for The Champions or Season 3. Definitely going to be hard for the weekend tournaments since there are so many games every day.
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On November 29 2012 04:15 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 04:00 Crownlol wrote:On November 29 2012 03:03 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 29 2012 03:01 Crownlol wrote:On November 29 2012 02:46 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 29 2012 02:41 WhiteDog wrote:On November 29 2012 02:37 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 28 2012 22:26 Lysteria wrote:
I would not put Dignitas behind FeaR.
To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team.
Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational. mancloud, please step it up. FeaR just going to dwindle around B tier otherwise. dig is still top 3 in NA imo, despite an amazing throwing arm. zz On November 28 2012 22:42 RouaF wrote:Are crs.na good ? I thought crs.eu were way better but somehow you rank them almost last. I think they're going to do better than that Crs.eu is much better but after reading about Crs.eu's attitude after winning TotL, it's massively disappointing. What did they do ? The name escapes me right now nor can I find the thread on reddit but the Crs.eu member (Support player iirc) who just quit the team right before IPL5 said that Crs.eu just became lackidasical and partied hard after winning TotL. They did zero prep for DHW12 and as a result, they failed to make it out of Group Stage. I stressed this a lot in the DreamHack wrap-up. A team that goes from winning a tournament to failing to make it out of groups has big issues. You should do summaries similar to the GSL ones posted by Waxangel and co. I freaking love reading those at work, when I can't watch streams but just gotta know what happened. Link? Depending on how busy I am at IPL5, I may or may not do it when I get back to the hotel at the end of the night. :O Not knowing my role at IPL5 yet really hinders what I can plan to do for TL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383510 <- Here's a good example. Recap of the games, background on both players, who won, how each game developed, the strategy of each player, how each player executed that strategy, and previews/predictions for next week. Waxangel is known for his somewhat scathing reviews - he doesn't pull punches about players not practicing or making mistakes. The LoL version would include pick/bans as well, I assume. A terror with how many games are played each day, haha. But I plan on jotting down notes for all the games I watch, along with TL LoL staff. If there is a seriously good match/set, I'll stay up to write up a recap of it. That's how much I like you guys.
Doing that sort of indepth analysis for an entire tournament would be really hard, but wouldn't be as difficult for the "few match a week" style IPL league stuff
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On November 29 2012 04:27 Crownlol wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 04:15 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 29 2012 04:00 Crownlol wrote:On November 29 2012 03:03 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 29 2012 03:01 Crownlol wrote:On November 29 2012 02:46 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 29 2012 02:41 WhiteDog wrote:On November 29 2012 02:37 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 28 2012 22:26 Lysteria wrote:
I would not put Dignitas behind FeaR.
To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team.
Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational. mancloud, please step it up. FeaR just going to dwindle around B tier otherwise. dig is still top 3 in NA imo, despite an amazing throwing arm. zz On November 28 2012 22:42 RouaF wrote:Are crs.na good ? I thought crs.eu were way better but somehow you rank them almost last. I think they're going to do better than that Crs.eu is much better but after reading about Crs.eu's attitude after winning TotL, it's massively disappointing. What did they do ? The name escapes me right now nor can I find the thread on reddit but the Crs.eu member (Support player iirc) who just quit the team right before IPL5 said that Crs.eu just became lackidasical and partied hard after winning TotL. They did zero prep for DHW12 and as a result, they failed to make it out of Group Stage. I stressed this a lot in the DreamHack wrap-up. A team that goes from winning a tournament to failing to make it out of groups has big issues. You should do summaries similar to the GSL ones posted by Waxangel and co. I freaking love reading those at work, when I can't watch streams but just gotta know what happened. Link? Depending on how busy I am at IPL5, I may or may not do it when I get back to the hotel at the end of the night. :O Not knowing my role at IPL5 yet really hinders what I can plan to do for TL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383510 <- Here's a good example. Recap of the games, background on both players, who won, how each game developed, the strategy of each player, how each player executed that strategy, and previews/predictions for next week. Waxangel is known for his somewhat scathing reviews - he doesn't pull punches about players not practicing or making mistakes. The LoL version would include pick/bans as well, I assume. A terror with how many games are played each day, haha. But I plan on jotting down notes for all the games I watch, along with TL LoL staff. If there is a seriously good match/set, I'll stay up to write up a recap of it. That's how much I like you guys. Doing that sort of indepth analysis for an entire tournament would be really hard, but wouldn't be as difficult for the "few match a week" style IPL league stuff
If I do do this, it would only be one game/set per day. Would be impossible for me to cover more than that. ;_;
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On November 29 2012 03:09 emperorchampion wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2012 22:26 Lysteria wrote:
I would not put Dignitas behind FeaR.
To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team.
Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational. I love aphromoo, but I think he is pretty overrated. In my opinion, his laning phase is very up and down, and his late game play is worse than other top NA ADs (qtpie, Chaox, doublelift). He's solid, and able to play with the best, but nothing special imo. I think FeaR's main strengths right now are mancloud, and xmithie. Mancloud is a beast right now, definetely up there with jiji, scarra and jacky as the best mids in NA. Xmithie is up there with saint and chauster as the strongest junglers in NA right now, with TOO and dominate not playing too well. I think FeaR's strength is that they have 3 solid lanes (gosu zuna also looking pretty good right now) and a good jungler. Their weaknesses are that they don't have any standout player (think doublelift, jacky) to provide that ace in the hole, and they don't have as much experience in team fights as CLG, TSM, Dig or Curse. Imo as it is, they won't beat any of the top tier teams in a series (except for TSM LOL), but I think they're contesting with Quantic for 5th best team in NA. Still 22hrs away zz :/
I feel like Xmithie is their weak link at the moment, he's super inconsistent. He has just as many bad games as he has good ones. Jury is still out on Zuna imo, he's had his ups and downs as well. Agree about Mancloud and Aphro, except I think Aphro definitely has the potential to be on that level, he just makes a few too many mistakes, his mechanics are pretty up there (espeically his VAYNE MECHANICS!) I've liked these guys for a while (mTw.NA days, not quite all the way back to Goose) so I really want them to do well.
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On November 29 2012 04:28 NeoIllusions wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 04:27 Crownlol wrote:On November 29 2012 04:15 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 29 2012 04:00 Crownlol wrote:On November 29 2012 03:03 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 29 2012 03:01 Crownlol wrote:On November 29 2012 02:46 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 29 2012 02:41 WhiteDog wrote:On November 29 2012 02:37 NeoIllusions wrote:On November 28 2012 22:26 Lysteria wrote:
I would not put Dignitas behind FeaR.
To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team.
Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational. mancloud, please step it up. FeaR just going to dwindle around B tier otherwise. dig is still top 3 in NA imo, despite an amazing throwing arm. zz On November 28 2012 22:42 RouaF wrote:Are crs.na good ? I thought crs.eu were way better but somehow you rank them almost last. I think they're going to do better than that Crs.eu is much better but after reading about Crs.eu's attitude after winning TotL, it's massively disappointing. What did they do ? The name escapes me right now nor can I find the thread on reddit but the Crs.eu member (Support player iirc) who just quit the team right before IPL5 said that Crs.eu just became lackidasical and partied hard after winning TotL. They did zero prep for DHW12 and as a result, they failed to make it out of Group Stage. I stressed this a lot in the DreamHack wrap-up. A team that goes from winning a tournament to failing to make it out of groups has big issues. You should do summaries similar to the GSL ones posted by Waxangel and co. I freaking love reading those at work, when I can't watch streams but just gotta know what happened. Link? Depending on how busy I am at IPL5, I may or may not do it when I get back to the hotel at the end of the night. :O Not knowing my role at IPL5 yet really hinders what I can plan to do for TL. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383510 <- Here's a good example. Recap of the games, background on both players, who won, how each game developed, the strategy of each player, how each player executed that strategy, and previews/predictions for next week. Waxangel is known for his somewhat scathing reviews - he doesn't pull punches about players not practicing or making mistakes. The LoL version would include pick/bans as well, I assume. A terror with how many games are played each day, haha. But I plan on jotting down notes for all the games I watch, along with TL LoL staff. If there is a seriously good match/set, I'll stay up to write up a recap of it. That's how much I like you guys. Doing that sort of indepth analysis for an entire tournament would be really hard, but wouldn't be as difficult for the "few match a week" style IPL league stuff If I do do this, it would only be one game/set per day. Would be impossible for me to cover more than that. ;_;
I guess you'd need help then... 
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I'm looking forward to watching WE play. Chinese teams usually do the coolest strategies. Especially IG, too bad they're not in the tourney.
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Like Neo said, as much as the staff would love to do coverage as heavy as the GSL, it's probably not feasible right now sadly.
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On November 29 2012 05:10 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Like Neo said, as much as the staff would love to do coverage as heavy as the GSL, it's probably not feasible right now sadly.
no we wouldn't i'm lazy
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On November 29 2012 05:14 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 05:10 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Like Neo said, as much as the staff would love to do coverage as heavy as the GSL, it's probably not feasible right now sadly. no we wouldn't i'm lazy
Shh stop ruining the illusion Yango! D:
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On November 29 2012 05:15 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 05:14 TheYango wrote:On November 29 2012 05:10 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Like Neo said, as much as the staff would love to do coverage as heavy as the GSL, it's probably not feasible right now sadly. no we wouldn't i'm lazy Shh stop ruining the illusion Yango! D:
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