EPT[IPL] IPL5 Discussion - Page 6
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skykh
3006 Posts
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On November 28 2012 18:11 skykh wrote: We got possible m5 vs blaze(world elite) or tpa vs blaze or world elite. On the other side we probaly got tsm vs clg.na(clg.eu) ipl is so based not only they screw the only one korean team placing them in the most difficult bracket and the other one is that they do a open wildcard qualifier for na teams? Why they can just invite another korean team? They wanted 1 team for each asian region afaik. But I agree that inviting 2 Korean teams would have been nicer. | ||
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Cuddle
Sweden1345 Posts
Fnatic better not make it to the finals or I'll lose my job. :/ | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On November 28 2012 08:37 emperorchampion wrote: so like potentially around a 10hr series, if there are technical glitches it'll be worlds 2.0... bo7 seems too long for LoL imo it's a maximum of 5 games... the team coming from loser's bracket has to win 4-1. 2xBo3 is a much better format but it could take forever | ||
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divinesage
Singapore649 Posts
1. AZB 2. M5 3. TPA 4. WE 5. CLG EU 6. Fnatic 7. CLG NA 8. SGS 9. TSM 10. Crs NA 11. FeaR 12. TD 13. IceLanD 14. Meat 15. Crs EU 16. Blackbean I have a feeling that if AZB play their game like in MLG Fall they would be unstoppable. As to why TPA falls behind M5, one of the reasons why TPA could have possibly won in WC was because they were an unfamiliar team, as they are way more prominent now, I think teams which prepare hard for TPA will be able to overcome them, and the team with the highest chance of that is M5. The next four teams have shown to be strong as of late, and their recent performances would put them in good stead here. The next few teams I feel are about the same level, and its only their current form and experience of the team that would determine who wins if they go head to head. As for the last four, IceLanD probably could rank higher up but I'm not too familiar with the team. Meat is a new team and will need some time to get better, but I won't be surprised if they placed much higher. Crs EU on the other hand might be in quite a bit of trouble after SuperAZE leaves in the last minute, citing lack of practice and complacency in the team. Blackbean, unfortunately I would place last due to the relative weakness of the Thai scene. But again I won't be surprised if they do take a few games off the mid-table teams as their playstyle is unfamiliar and they're coming into this tournament as the biggest underdogs with nothing to lose. I wonder how my predictions for IPL5 will turn out.. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On November 28 2012 21:19 divinesage wrote: My Power Rankings 1. AZB 2. M5 3. TPA 4. WE 5. CLG EU 6. Fnatic 7. CLG NA 8. SGS 9. TSM 10. Crs NA 11. FeaR 12. TD 13. IceLanD 14. Meat 15. Crs EU 16. Blackbean Good ranking, I generally agree. Although I would place M5 a little lower and crs.eu a little higher, despite their support leaving them. | ||
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
For 1 spot i am thinking WE, they are looking really strong atm overall, and are pretty much undefeatable in China. Much like my #2 choice of TPA is in Taiwan. As for underdogs this tournament: IceLanD, oh glory Mikakotabe is back! and Iceland looks to have a relativly okay lineup, that plus asian training regimes equals something to look out for. Though maybe not an underdog after DH:W I believe Fnatic will do remarkably well. Those are my top 6 (3rd-6th in no particular order) rest are probably going to look something like this: 7: CLG.eu 8. CLG.na 9. CLG...errr Crs.na and rest in noparticualar order (I believe sgs will have problems once again, curse.eu are either up with the 3 clg teams or down with the bottom teams, Fear might have a strong showing, but them taking games of the bigger teams outside of NA isnt something I think we'll see, as for TSM... ye.. no. Meat are good although young, blackbean is a wildcard, TD is TD= | ||
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Lysteria
France2280 Posts
To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team. Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14155 Posts
And shit my bracket has blaze vs m5 and then tpa vs we in the quarters. Damm thats hard decisions. | ||
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RouaF
France4121 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On November 28 2012 22:26 Lysteria wrote: I would not put Dignitas behind FeaR. To me, FeaR is a "let's pick late game heroes and get carried by aphromoo" team. Overall, Dignitas feels stronger, especially after the last Solomid Invitational. Dignitas isn't in IPL5, they didn't qualify. TD = Team Dynamic. I think group A is going to be the most fun group to watch, group C is the one I'm most uncertain about the winners. Group D is where the CLG.Bench team needs all of the stars in the universe to align. | ||
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adriftt
335 Posts
Tournaments really need to realize whats going on and give KR more than 1 spot though. I would have loved to see KT B or Frost instead of TD/blackbean/whoever. | ||
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Lysteria
France2280 Posts
On November 28 2012 22:56 Doctorbeat wrote: Dignitas isn't in IPL5, they didn't qualify. TD = Team Dynamic. Aww. And for Curse.na, Voyboy seems to be a nice addition for their roster, he's much more solid than Westrice. | ||
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LasTLiE
United States428 Posts
On November 28 2012 22:42 RouaF wrote: Are crs.na good ? I thought crs.eu were way better but somehow you rank them almost last. I think they're going to do better than that Curse NA certainly seem to be doing better than before, at least judging from their recent games in the SoloMid Series. Winning two in a row, beating TSM both times(although TSM has seemed to be under performing lately - but that's another topic entirely). While I do think they're playing better, I don't know if it'll be enough to go toe-to-toe with the top Asian or European teams. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 28 2012 22:11 Vlanitak wrote: For 1 spot i am thinking WE, they are looking really strong atm overall, and are pretty much undefeatable in China. Much like my #2 choice of TPA is in Taiwan. I think predicting WE #1 is ambitious--not because I think they don't have the ability, but because they still haven't broken their reputation of underperforming in foreign LANs. On November 28 2012 22:11 Vlanitak wrote: As for underdogs this tournament: IceLanD, oh glory Mikakotabe is back! and Iceland looks to have a relativly okay lineup, that plus asian training regimes equals something to look out for. Though maybe not an underdog after DH:W I believe Fnatic will do remarkably well. Is Tabe on Iceland? I know he was on Royal for TGA--did something happen? | ||
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foxmeep
Australia2337 Posts
On November 28 2012 21:19 divinesage wrote: My Power Rankings 1. AZB 2. M5 3. TPA 4. WE 5. CLG EU 6. Fnatic 7. CLG NA 8. SGS 9. TSM 10. Crs NA 11. FeaR 12. TD 13. IceLanD 14. Meat 15. Crs EU 16. Blackbean I have a feeling that if AZB play their game like in MLG Fall they would be unstoppable. As to why TPA falls behind M5, one of the reasons why TPA could have possibly won in WC was because they were an unfamiliar team, as they are way more prominent now, I think teams which prepare hard for TPA will be able to overcome them, and the team with the highest chance of that is M5. The next four teams have shown to be strong as of late, and their recent performances would put them in good stead here. The next few teams I feel are about the same level, and its only their current form and experience of the team that would determine who wins if they go head to head. As for the last four, IceLanD probably could rank higher up but I'm not too familiar with the team. Meat is a new team and will need some time to get better, but I won't be surprised if they placed much higher. Crs EU on the other hand might be in quite a bit of trouble after SuperAZE leaves in the last minute, citing lack of practice and complacency in the team. Blackbean, unfortunately I would place last due to the relative weakness of the Thai scene. But again I won't be surprised if they do take a few games off the mid-table teams as their playstyle is unfamiliar and they're coming into this tournament as the biggest underdogs with nothing to lose. I wonder how my predictions for IPL5 will turn out.. TPA played very similar to the Koreans and M5 IMO, but they just took it to another level at WC. It wasn't really that what they did was unexpected, it was just executed to perfection. The calculations in their dives and the coordination in their team roaming was just brilliant. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9233 Posts
On November 29 2012 01:28 TheYango wrote: I think predicting WE #1 is ambitious--not because I think they don't have the ability, but because they still haven't broken their reputation of underperforming in foreign LANs. At this point I'd say that could also be a plus due to the lower pressure on them. In contrast, I believe TPA will have a very hard time at this tournament due to expectations and the way their opponents will treat the matches against them. Something that TPA took full advantage of against M5 at Worlds now becomes their own problem. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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krutopatkin
Germany2612 Posts
On November 28 2012 22:46 Irave wrote: Curse.EU came out of nowhere really. Surprising lots of people. Then if what their ex support says is true after their big win they became rockstars and decided to put little focus on practice. So they will be using a sub this event. I'd rate NA higher than EU too, but NA has a difficult group stage. EU even with the sub has a good shot at making top 2 in theirs. Crs.EU didnt really come out of nowhere tbh, have been beating the likes of M5 and CLG.EU in online tourneys for ages, just the big lan breakout was missing until the tales of the lane tournament. | ||
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