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mint_julep
Profile Joined October 2009
United States254 Posts
August 27 2012 01:09 GMT
#1781
On August 27 2012 09:55 yeint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 09:39 mint_julep wrote:
On August 27 2012 09:30 SoraLimit wrote:
Why is everyone saying it's due to the ARAM game? If that was the case, I'm pretty sure the officials would have stopped it waayy before the game started, and had a proper game.


How in the fuck would "the officials" know about this "wayy" before the game started? Did you watch the cast and see how awkward the commentators were?

Do you think that Dignitas went up to the admins "wayy" before the game and said "Hey, we've agreed to not play a real competitive game for your finals. We're going to BS around instead. Sound good?"

More importantly why in god's name would you think that the last 4 games of the tournament were elaborate "mock games" intending curse to win, and the ARAM was not the issue? Have you heard of Occam's razor? Use it.


They OVERHEARD them.

My Occam's razor is a Fusion Power.




The officials did not overhear them. Other people did and officials went to investigate.

Also, whatever the fuck your fusion power reference means.
I hope Plexa's sig is right.
Enceladus
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden225 Posts
August 27 2012 01:10 GMT
#1782
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 27 2012 01:10 GMT
#1783
On August 27 2012 10:07 nojitosunrise wrote:
You know what really bothers me when individuals get caught match fixing/prize splitting?

What is stopping them from doing this is other tournaments? If they are willing to do it for one tournament, why won't they do it for bigger tournaments?

With millions and millions of dollars on the line in season 2 and 3....I am very very skeptical about the "integrity" of future LoL matches.



First, it has absolutely nothing to do with LoL. Teams, and people in general for every game, just need to realize that pot splitting (worse games as a result) is detrimental to their scene as a whole and the tournament they've entered. Now, numerous splits happen at tournaments all around the country for various games and competitions. It's expected, really. The difference being that those are usually small events where spectators are there for free and also usually made up of competitors themselves after they've been eliminated. People go to those to compete themselves and have a good time.

In larger events that are broadcast to people who've paid money and those in person, then you're robbing the spectators and damaging the event's image. But like I stated right off of the bat, this is not a LoL thing, but a competitive gaming thing in general.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
August 27 2012 01:11 GMT
#1784
On August 27 2012 10:03 Ferrose wrote:
From RiotRedBeard:

Just to be crystal clear, MLG’s decision here has nothing to do with ARAM. Both Curse and Dignitas admitted to and apologized for colluding prior to the finals to throw the match.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=28677156#post28677156


Holy christwagons, so much stupidity in one thread. That's just scary
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 01:13:31
August 27 2012 01:11 GMT
#1785
Since MLG gave prize money to the 3rd and 4th teams what did they do about circuit points? Because if they gave circuit points from 1st/2nd to 3rd/4th shouldn't oRb be the #8 spot at the regionals instead of mMe?

The 3rd and 4th Place teams will receive the prize money and Circuit Points they have earned, and all other results stand. No 1st or 2nd Place will be awarded for this event.


http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/an-important-message-regarding-mlg-summer-championship-league-of-legends/

If oRb gets 2nd place circuit points mMe shouldn't be going to regionals and oRb might even become the 7th seed?
Phemtos
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada163 Posts
August 27 2012 01:11 GMT
#1786
On August 27 2012 10:02 jgoonld wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 09:56 Phemtos wrote:


Tobi said it

LoL at MLG proved it


I'm actually unsure about how this has anything to do with this situation.


LoL doesn't deserve to be an esport. It's a casual game that isn't even taken seriously by it's competitor at top level. Dota 2 would be a much better replacement then this casual crap.

also

Totalbiscuit ‏@Totalbiscuit
I wouldn't miss LoL if they got rid of it from MLG though, DOTA2 is clearly the better competitive title even if LoL is more fun casually

User was temp banned for this post.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
August 27 2012 01:11 GMT
#1787
On August 27 2012 10:08 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 10:05 ReachTheSky wrote:
On August 27 2012 10:01 Node wrote:
On August 27 2012 09:56 ReachTheSky wrote:
All they have proof of is them wanting to split the prize. That doesn't mean they threw games or conspired to fix the match. What people do with prize money is up to them. I don't see how these teams are in the wrong.

o, aram. i get it now. Yeah that is pretty bad actually. yeah i would dq them also


It's been stated that the ARAM didn't actually matter (the game could still go either way) -- it's the splitting the prize money that's specifically against the rules. So, yes, both teams are in the wrong.

Can't believe my two favorite NA teams were idiotic enough to do this. Totally blows my mind. Why, Scarra? T_T


ahhhh gotcha. I still don't see how that affects any aspect of their tournament. Both teams still played to win. I think that rule should be removed.


No way that is completely false. If they split the prize money, then they aren't playing to win... They don't care about the results...

Have you ever heard of pride?

If you give me the choice between being first or second I'm going to say I want to be 1st every time regardless if I dont make any more money.

This happens all the time in competitive magic and no one cares. It was a close as hell Bo5 that was really close and entertaining... I was entertained, what difference does it make if team X gets paid more than team Y or if they both split the money? All prize spliting does is ensure more people can make a stable living off of doing what they love. How is that a bad thing?
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9205 Posts
August 27 2012 01:11 GMT
#1788
On August 27 2012 10:07 nojitosunrise wrote:
With millions and millions of dollars on the line in season 2 and 3....I am very very skeptical about the "integrity" of future LoL matches.


Is anyone stupid enough to leave hundreds of thousands on a verbal agreement?
Also I'm pretty sure usually at least on of the teams is convinced that they are better than the other.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
August 27 2012 01:11 GMT
#1789
On August 27 2012 10:05 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 10:01 Node wrote:
On August 27 2012 09:56 ReachTheSky wrote:
All they have proof of is them wanting to split the prize. That doesn't mean they threw games or conspired to fix the match. What people do with prize money is up to them. I don't see how these teams are in the wrong.

o, aram. i get it now. Yeah that is pretty bad actually. yeah i would dq them also


It's been stated that the ARAM didn't actually matter (the game could still go either way) -- it's the splitting the prize money that's specifically against the rules. So, yes, both teams are in the wrong.

Can't believe my two favorite NA teams were idiotic enough to do this. Totally blows my mind. Why, Scarra? T_T


ahhhh gotcha. I still don't see how that affects any aspect of their tournament. Both teams still played to win. I think that rule should be removed.


Are you dead serious? You really think a team that is willing to split the prize money is going to give a shit about the games they are playing? They already know they are getting their payday, so why even bother?

It is dishonest, goes against the spirit of competition and shows that they are willing to game the system to get more money, rather than compete for it.
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Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
August 27 2012 01:12 GMT
#1790
i dont understand why they would agree to split the money and play arams.

saying 'they didnt want to show their strats for next week' is insane. they could have just played standard champ comps and gone at it. they didnt have to make a mockery of the event like they did.

curse and dig are my 2 favorite teams and its really quite disappointing they thought this was a good idea.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
August 27 2012 01:13 GMT
#1791
On August 27 2012 10:11 Phemtos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2012 10:02 jgoonld wrote:
On August 27 2012 09:56 Phemtos wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZzJ5M2AG30&feature=player_embedded

Tobi said it

LoL at MLG proved it


I'm actually unsure about how this has anything to do with this situation.


LoL doesn't deserve to be an esport. It's a casual game that isn't even taken seriously by it's competitor at top level. Dota 2 would be a much better replacement then this casual crap.

also

Totalbiscuit ‏@Totalbiscuit
I wouldn't miss LoL if they got rid of it from MLG though, DOTA2 is clearly the better competitive title even if LoL is more fun casually

Competitive Minesweeper would deserve to be an "esport" if enough people decided they want to watch it. You don't get to decide what is crap or not crap for the entire market of consumers.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 27 2012 01:13 GMT
#1792
agreed with MLG's decision
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
August 27 2012 01:14 GMT
#1793
Curse and Dignitas must be kicking themselves in the face right now...

Absolutely horrible decision and they deserve whatever punishment the mighty hammer of Justice wreaks down upon them.
Retvrn to Forvms
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
August 27 2012 01:16 GMT
#1794
MLG and Riot have made the correct decision here. Quite frankly, there is nothing left worth talking about.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
August 27 2012 01:16 GMT
#1795
On August 27 2012 10:07 nojitosunrise wrote:
You know what really bothers me when individuals get caught match fixing/prize splitting?

What is stopping them from doing this is other tournaments? If they are willing to do it for one tournament, why won't they do it for bigger tournaments?

With millions and millions of dollars on the line in season 2 and 3....I am very very skeptical about the "integrity" of future LoL matches.



It's a possibility that Savior and other players have shown before. Honestly the players have to keep the spirit of the competition on their minds and do the right thing, but before Season 3 even starts we have this stupid mess. The fact it even happened is now up to MLG/Riot to decide if they need to set an example for their future. It's just something stupid they've done and I frankly won't follow Dig/Curse in their future tournaments, because they gave up their chance at first place and didn't show their spirit to win legitimately
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
August 27 2012 01:17 GMT
#1796
On August 27 2012 10:16 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
MLG and Riot have made the correct decision here. Quite frankly, there is nothing left worth talking about.

Somehow there are people who think that MLG are in the wrong over this, don't ask me how but from what I've read there is.
Glorious SEA doto
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
August 27 2012 01:17 GMT
#1797
On August 27 2012 10:10 Enceladus wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXOpt86zVJ0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Hm, Saint said "allegations". Seems like they haven't admitted to the matchfixing yet, regardless of what tweets have been saying. I'm waiting for the dignitas announcement.
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-27 01:18:25
August 27 2012 01:17 GMT
#1798
On August 27 2012 10:11 overt wrote:
Since MLG gave prize money to the 3rd and 4th teams what did they do about circuit points? Because if they gave circuit points from 1st/2nd to 3rd/4th shouldn't oRb be the #8 spot at the regionals instead of mMe?

Show nested quote +
The 3rd and 4th Place teams will receive the prize money and Circuit Points they have earned, and all other results stand. No 1st or 2nd Place will be awarded for this event.


http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/an-important-message-regarding-mlg-summer-championship-league-of-legends/

If oRb gets 2nd place circuit points mMe shouldn't be going to regionals and oRb might even become the 7th seed?


I think it means that the 3rd and 4th place teams will still receive points for 3rd and 4th. ("no 1st or 2nd place will be awarded") So Curse and Dig just won't get any points, everything else stays the same. I dunno how that would affect the standings, though.
whole lies with a half smile
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 27 2012 01:17 GMT
#1799
http://twitter.com/dscarra/status/239790940909367297


The irony.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
August 27 2012 01:17 GMT
#1800
On August 27 2012 10:16 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
MLG and Riot have made the correct decision here. Quite frankly, there is nothing left worth talking about.


Does anyone know yet though what's going to happen to final regional spot? If MLG is giving circuit points to 3rd/4th place teams as they said they would it changes up who gets to go to regionals.
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