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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I'd like to request if anybody has any more matchups they want up on the matchup section. I know I don't have mid Lulu there and the pictures are kind of a gigantic pain in the ass to screw with, so if I'm going to screw with them I want to add a number of matchups all at once. I actually haven't played her vs. Velkoz yet, funny enough. Edit: Matchups are upodato'd | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I was skeptic on Heal, but having tried it a bunch of times now it is really, really overpowered. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Live2Win
United States6657 Posts
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739
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
I've been going for the Morello>Spellthiefs (as it helps a bit to land skillshots)>DC>VS>Zhonya. In recent games I tend to have more AP/more dmg and more gold then AP mid laners. Lux is fun, I'm gonna spam Lux games 24/7 now. Also this guy http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/24350917#ranked-stats :D | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
He also duos with a D1 who carries him. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
In my opinion, Lux beats Leblanc. I am going to explain why, bit by bit. Level 1: Your spells and autos both do the same amount of damage, it's kind of whatever. If she starts W it's important to not try to hit her with a spell till after she uses it, or she will use W to dodge it. Level 2: Leblanc beats you at level 2. This is the scariest time of the matchup because you need to be careful or you will take a lot of damage. Hitting level 2 first helps. Level 3-5: As long as you use your shield before she gets a spell on you, you will beat her in any trade at this stage as long as you don't miss your shit. I want to go over this in detail. Your shield blocks 80 damage, and then another 80 damage about 2 seconds later. So, lets say I see Leblanc coming up to me to W onto me and combo, so I shield in the direction she was coming from (since I am going to walk towards it). Ideally I shield about 0.5 seconds before it happens. I block 80 damage and take 155 at level 3. When she does this shit, you do NOT back away from her. You walk towards her original distortion position and start autoing. Your second shield will hit you right before her chain snares you, so you will block ALL of the damage from the chain snare. Once she makes the decision to pop back to her Distortion spot or not, you combo her with Q auto E auto. This does 200 damage. The end result is you've done 200 spell damage to her, she's done 155 to you. You still have 40 shield left. She's also taking minion damage since this happened behind your creeps, while you are not. A good Leblanc will know that 3-5 the only way she can win a trade is to wait for you to try to either Q her, or E her from 600 range, and dodge it with W. So just don't use your spells. If you want to try to E her, do it from 1000 range and be prepared to let her zone you while it's on cooldown. Don't use Q until she's already used her jump. If you play like that the worst that will happen is the two of you will just farm and not attack each other, which benefits you over her. Post 6: She still can't win a trade with you if you play this way. Your ult does more damage than hers. The problem is she can do a trade with you like this, and then do a second trade with her ult while yours is still down. If you're not ahead enough to kill her or get her real low, you can't trade with her anymore at this stage. So if you're not ahead, just don't fight her. You have Chalice (and hopefully blue buff) at this stage, and you're farming with E. You have 1400 range on that, and if you E every wave twice you will get 4-6 minions in every wave without ever using an autoattack, depending on how much practice you have doing that kind of farming. Leblanc is maxing W for the cooldown/waveclear at this point, and her W only has 600 range. Your goal is to make it so if she wants to trade with you, she has to use W just to close distance and is missing all of the W damage. Basically this means that all you have to do is shield when she does this. Your shield will block her damage and you'll end up using less mana than her and not taking much damage. If she wants to be forward enough to actually hit you with W, she has to be 800 range in front of her own creeps. This means that if your jungler shows up, she'll be so far foward her W won't even get her back to the middle of the lane. If she's playing like this, get your jungler to camp the shit out of her. Again, worst case scenario the two of you are just farming and not attacking each other. And your teamfight damage and utility scales much better than hers, so this is a preferable situation for you. Realistically what will happen is she will give up on you and try to gank side lanes, and then you just shove the wave and/or follow her and try to win the roaming game. You waveclear better than her, so you will have more time to ward and more time to roam, and your ult is long enough range that you can follow her and still assist a fight she shows up at when she gets there. This is why Lux beats Leblanc. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2400 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
I feel like you ignore a lot of potential issues. Leblanc has a jungler. You can't just say "have your jungler camp Leblanc" and wave your hands and be done with it. I don't play Leblanc, but I do play Lux, and from the games I've played I feel like the 2v2 definitely favors the Leblanc side, especially if it takes place in the jungle and/or they begin the fight with a positional advantage. You absolutely must land your shields at the appropriate time, because Leblanc's level 3 combo does so much damage. If you're separated from your jungler, your jungler is probably just screwed. This happens pretty frequently, because the Leblanc side will often invade because they're aware of how much single target damage Leblanc can do and your jungler doesn't take the threat nearly as seriously as they should. Following a Leblanc is not as easy as you make it sound. Fake roams can be deadly. Using E to check bushes to make a counter roam safe is time consuming. Also their jungler can just hold mid while the Leblanc does the ganking because her burst is higher. | ||
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scrubtastic
1166 Posts
(most of these games were not on support Lux but I think it applies) I still think Talisman active is better most of the time. It is god-tier. Map movement, disengage/engage is just so good. However FQC can do the following: 1) Disengage aid. It has a travel time, the snare is like 80%, you fire it behind you (possibly with your Q and E) and gtfo. Not as good as talisman 2) Wombo combo aid. I really like it with Zyra, for example, if you can catch multiple people in your R. Fire the FQC with your R and the odds are higher that the R completes the knockup on any dudes you got with it. One could use it on support Lux as a followup to someone else's AoE snare/stun i suppose, or if you somehow QRE combo someone at close range use FQC afterwards to give more time for teammate followup. 3) ADC peel aid. This is what support Lux will probably be using it for imo. Q => Q wears off or gets cleansed => FQC and E | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
They can go w q e w in <1 second, landing the w at max radius ahead of you, and you arn't in range to respond to it. Sure you shield 80 damage from her combo but she just doesn't sit around for 2nd chains/2nd part of shield. Her combo does enough damage that it will still hurt alot. One of two of them and you are very very 1 shotable. What you can do is snare her as she w's in but thats really hard and she can juke it and just not hit the w damage very easily. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Even if you only get E+auto, using our level 3 example she does 155 damage to you and you do 100 to her, which considering you started flask to her dring, and hopefully got at least 1 auto off while silenced, means you still won the trade. I don't try to Q her as she's jumping in (this is REALLY hard to do), instead use your shield and then right click her or do an attack move command so you will automatically wind up an auto before she pops back out of range. Plus, her combo costs more mana than yours. If you're shielding every trade successfully she will run out of mana before she can force you out of lane. | ||
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InfSunday
United States735 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Zed would probably be the #1 most obvious offender. If you took it you'd want it to be against somebody with a lot of short duration burst, but who telegraphs said burst so you can hit Exhaust before the burst happens. The problem with Exhaust is that while it's very useful in a 1v1, it's not so useful during a gank over heal, since you're only exhausting 1 of 2 targets, while the movespeed from Heal hopefully prevents you from taking damage in the first place. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Kassadin buffs will make him tougher, but not tougher early game which is what Lux cares about. She needs to be able to shut him down early. I've only played the Lux v. new Kassadin matchup once at this point but I'm not too scared. Heal change I think is irrelevant, you'll still take it as mid and Exhaust as support. Other than that, not really much that's Lux related. It's a small patch. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On April 20 2014 22:46 Ketara wrote: The trick is when she does the w q e w combo, you start walking towards her instead of away from her. It doesn't matter that you get rooted (pre 6) because she's not going to have any spells to hit you with while you're rooted, and if you timed it right the second part of your shield will block the root damage. If you run towards her you will at the very least get an E+auto after the silence wears off, and hopefully get a Q+auto+E+auto. But he's talking about LB who don't stay, so you'll only shield for half (since they won't do damage after your shield comes back), and because they can WQWE very fast (and your shield has a cast animation so you won't be moving immediatly) they'll just do it and run away using the silence to prevent retaliation. Sure, you can still try to E her after it wears off when LB's something like 800-900 range away from you, but it's harder to hit. | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
I liked it. Not sure if I liked it more than Heal/Barrier, will need to try it a couple more times to really make a decision. But it definitely did what we expected it would. | ||
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InfSunday
United States735 Posts
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
Veigar maybe (Exhaust new range same as Veigar combo) I wouldn't take it against Ahri and Riven. Riven can do a lot of damage before you can react, and since her wind slash is an execute, Heal has the double effect of both healing you and lowering the execute damage. Plus the movespeed from it is good against her hopping around, while a movespeed slow doesn't actually inhibit her movement very much. Ahri can burst you from outside the Exhaust range. The ideal case for Exhaust is vs. champions who tell you they are about to burst you before they actually do any damage, and then do all of said damage inside of two seconds and within 650 range. The two clearest candidates for that I think are Zed and Veigar. | ||
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scrubtastic
1166 Posts
Support Lux mana values are problem and Lux is bad Support Morg mana values are not problem and Morg is good BUT Lux and Morg have same mana costs omg! To not have mana problems and therefore be good*, play Lux like Morg MAX Q -Avoid hard engage. Plz practice -hit Q. Plz practice that too If you land Q pre 6: -W your ADC and watch ADC do stuff -Quick auto -Back off Good trade! If you land Q post 6: -R Good trade! Morg W not poke, so Lux E not poke. E is slow field for stealing kills or running away You are not mid Lux. You are Morg Lux. Your Q must be FEARED If you make them fear your Q and they act scared congrats, you have zoned them. that is good plz consider idea kthnx *okay you actually still aren't that good | ||
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