Tried Twitch/Cassiopeia in Hexakill. First blood should almost be guaranteed if you wait in the far lane bush; after that, Cass now has extreme amounts of gold from Frostfang, because landing either Q or W procs the full Frostfang effect thanks to the DoT.

ticklishmusic

United States15977 Posts

March 04 2014 07:31 GMT

#163

On March 04 2014 00:00 GrandInquisitor wrote:
Tried Twitch/Cassiopeia in Hexakill. First blood should almost be guaranteed if you wait in the far lane bush; after that, Cass now has extreme amounts of gold from Frostfang, because landing either Q or W procs the full Frostfang effect thanks to the DoT.

Ticks OP

Tooplark

United States3977 Posts

March 04 2014 19:14 GMT

#164

Incidentally, the tick damage from Zilean's bomb does not trigger frostfang, sadly.

ticklishmusic

United States15977 Posts

March 04 2014 19:51 GMT

#165

On March 05 2014 04:14 Tooplark wrote:

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Incidentally, the tick damage from Zilean's bomb does not trigger frostfang, sadly.

Bomb is just a visible countdown, it doesn't do damage

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

March 04 2014 20:11 GMT

#166

Oddly Teemo's DoT on his E doesn't proc Frostfang, and I assume neither does Gangplank's.

Tooplark

United States3977 Posts

March 05 2014 04:27 GMT

#167

On March 05 2014 04:51 ticklishmusic wrote:

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Bomb is just a visible countdown, it doesn't do damage

Hm. Maybe they changed it, but there was a definite point in time when bomb did one point of true damage with each tick. It was added so that bomb would trigger tower aggro. That was a really old change, though, and I wouldn't be surprised to learn it was reverted.

Scip

Czech Republic11293 Posts

March 05 2014 13:06 GMT

#168

It still draws tower aggro, not sure if it still does dmg though.

shogeki

Canada75 Posts

May 28 2014 17:59 GMT

#169

On January 14 2014 00:39 GrandInquisitor wrote:
I've been trying this in normals. It's ultra high variance -- like a tightrope.

If you land Rupture on a gank, it's an easy double kill and snowball. Once ahead, if you consistently live through teamfights your assist streak and full ult stacks make you an unkillable monster.

If you miss Ruptures and/or are up against strong poke, enjoy crippling mana problems and being astonishingly squishy because you can't fully make use of your passive.

I played with someone in normals doing this around this time frame. If it was you, I'm sorry for all the rage. I enjoy laning with some weird supports but this wasn't one of them.

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

May 29 2014 14:56 GMT

#170

Haha, doesn't sound like me -- I only play normals as part of a premade. Did reasonably well as Cho support but I've now moved on to jungle Ezreal as my go-to normals pick.

GuYuTe-

United States550 Posts

July 21 2014 01:14 GMT

#171

On the subject of fun/somewhat viable supports, give Rumble a try. You can get triple ticks from his flamespitter with Spellthief. Yeah, the mana regen is a wasted stat on him but being mana-less you can poke in lane pretty well with your harpoons and he has great dragon control and still puts out pretty good damage late game. I start frostfang then rush sightstone/sorc boots/frost queen's claim/haunting guise/rylais. Finishing Frost queen's claim is debatable but I feel it gives him just enough AP to do some damage and with the active and your harpoons it's really fun chasing people down.

His biggest drawback is obviously his lack of hard c.c. but if you're good with your harpoons he has pretty good poke/slow and really excels in teamfights and objective control and makes for one hell of a kill lane post-6

GrandInquisitor

New York City13113 Posts

July 22 2014 21:07 GMT

#172

Is Lucian top too mainstream for TROLLS? I'm still struggling with what the optimal build for him is. In my mind he has "Karthus syndrome" where he wants just about every item. He needs AD, LS, CDR, and mana, while also fitting in a Triforce somewhere. And do you lose too much damage going no-crit?

Duvon

Sweden2360 Posts

July 22 2014 21:44 GMT

#173

Similarily, watching zion and balls play AD nidalee top, the only drawback of the build is mana issues - can they be alleviated in a decent manner?

GuYuTe-

United States550 Posts

July 23 2014 15:54 GMT

#174

I would think you could build him similar to Jayce with a tear into manamune/boots of lucidity. Either that or just rush sheen into triforce. Or maybe try running mana regen seals and building him standard or just be really conservative with mana and not trade very much. EDIT: blue build works really well

MooMooMugi

United States10531 Posts

July 26 2014 06:38 GMT

#175

On July 23 2014 06:44 Duvon wrote:
Similarily, watching zion and balls play AD nidalee top, the only drawback of the build is mana issues - can they be alleviated in a decent manner?

Seen brusier nids go chalice -> Trinity and it works pretty well. Sell it later in the game for something more cost effective of course.

ComaDose

Canada10357 Posts

September 06 2014 06:32 GMT

#176

what if you had hec noc and quinn wandering around with 2 strong wave clearers. come in like a wrecking ball every fight

lilwisper

United States2515 Posts

November 12 2014 19:04 GMT

#177

Even though I know the idea is most likely a bad one, for s5 I want to play with the idea of switching jungle items to control what smite I have at different points of the game. For example let's say I am using Shaco and start with Stalker Blade to make sure that my opening ganks have a higher chance of success, since having them slowed is more important than extra damage since the stats are low at the start. Later on when more folks have more defenses, I may want Skirmisher Saber for the extra damage since I will have the slow from shiv poison. Something like this seems interesting to research. Would it be viable? If so at what timing would this need to occur? Would it work for other types of junglers, as in a tank jungler going trailblazer to help them level faster? Then popping over to poachers for the move speed to keep their presence in the lanes high?