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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
July 18 2013 20:22 GMT
#141
On July 19 2013 04:28 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 03:44 Advocado wrote:
The old leviathan was a 20 stack hp item. Its an old screenshot.

Woosh

No Triforce, Caller? I am disappoint.

was before official bravery brah
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 18 2013 20:28 GMT
#142
Yeah that shit's def old.
Zhonya's Ring in there, newest champ I see is Kennen (though it could be coincidence).
When I started Malz had just come out I think.
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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 19 2013 10:36 GMT
#143
Hi, this guide is great but misses something essential : what is the best Pantheon skin ?
Full metal Pantheon is on sale right now, should I buy it ? :p
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
July 19 2013 12:23 GMT
#144
Clearly you need all the skins, as the guide recommends a different skin depending on which style Pantheon you're playing.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
July 19 2013 15:30 GMT
#145
But I'm not that rich :'(
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
July 20 2013 03:53 GMT
#146
I'm kinda bad and "lost" (went even) with a Ryze in lane just now. I started Fask 3pot, he started mana crystal. Should I have started Red Pot and just facerolled him?

Trading Q's was slightly favorable at level 1, and QW-AA-Q seemed to hurt a bit less than his combo (minions maybe) but I must have been doing something wrong to not be able to smash an early game ryze with only a mana crystal. He seemed to recover a ton of hp for only 2 pots, which kinda threw me off..
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
daredpanda
Profile Joined January 2012
United States60 Posts
July 20 2013 17:13 GMT
#147
Any advice for laning against Lux?
Terran sandwich with Archon bread. GG all day long!
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
July 20 2013 20:08 GMT
#148
On July 19 2013 19:36 Lylat wrote:
Hi, this guide is great but misses something essential : what is the best Pantheon skin ?
Full metal Pantheon is on sale right now, should I buy it ? :p

best part about full metal is the art, in game its ugly as fuck imo.

i like myrmidon or the wolf helm one tbh
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
July 21 2013 09:32 GMT
#149
On July 19 2013 19:36 Lylat wrote:
Hi, this guide is great but misses something essential : what is the best Pantheon skin ?
Full metal Pantheon is on sale right now, should I buy it ? :p


I actually asked this question in one of the earlier pages and he agreed with me that basically Perseus >> All


http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1iqfp0/morello_pantheon_needs_some_work_and_will_most/
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-21 12:21:07
July 21 2013 12:16 GMT
#150
LoCicero gets a shoutout in that thread lol. I thought Panth was bad until I actually learnt how to play him and now I feel like he's so strong. I feel like people aren't brave enough when playing him so cry that he's weak. It's just in solo Q no matter how hard to dominate the map your team can still Dignitas it all away.

edit: Reading that reddit thread made my head hurt. People saying how it's "toxic" to have an actual power curve instead of the generic always useful. Why does Riot actually listen to the community, all it's done is given this huge sense of entitlement.
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
July 21 2013 14:40 GMT
#151
I made a post on the LoL thread about what I think could be done to Pantheon (changing his "E" to reduce/remove the minion damage restriction) to make him more viable competitively.

I definitely disagree with the notion on some of the reddit posts that having a power curve is toxic or not fun - Pantheon is incredibly fun largely for that reason (on the flipside, of my other favorite champions - Kassadin - has the exact opposite power curve with an incredibly weak pre-6 laning and is equally fun). Having champions that act like Starcraft timing pushes to give your team advantages at certain stages of the game is really cool/interesting and I wish more worked like that to be honest.

I'm just hoping that whatever changes they decide to go with keep some of that feel intact - he is currently viable at every level of play in solo queue and I am worried that - with his kit - any changes that make him strong enough to compete in LCS will invariably be changes that make him too strong in solo queue and lead to a nerf/genericising of everything that was great about him.
Writerman what
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 22 2013 06:37 GMT
#152
Yea, I really dislike how Riot and a large portion of the playerbase pushes homogenous power curves so hard. I get that it makes the game easier in some respects, but it kills champion diversity imo
OmegaKnetus
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany431 Posts
July 23 2013 23:23 GMT
#153
This guide is amazing: I bought pantheon and never looked back. At my level, in silver pantheon is just absolute faceroll as most midlaners overextend all the time and I finish most games fed as hell.

It's just so satisfying to rape those ryzes, kassadins and fizzes that run rampant at this elo.

After the tear nerf is it still one of your key items? I feel like it takes ages to charge it. Maybe just buying a chalice would be better at this point.
Atrioc
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1865 Posts
July 24 2013 02:18 GMT
#154
On July 24 2013 08:23 OmegaKnetus wrote:
This guide is amazing: I bought pantheon and never looked back. At my level, in silver pantheon is just absolute faceroll as most midlaners overextend all the time and I finish most games fed as hell.

It's just so satisfying to rape those ryzes, kassadins and fizzes that run rampant at this elo.

After the tear nerf is it still one of your key items? I feel like it takes ages to charge it. Maybe just buying a chalice would be better at this point.


I like it against certain enemies where you really have to soften them up with a bunch of spells before you can commit to going in, or generally any situation where it looks more like a farm fest, but generally I have been skipping tear lately and going very frequently for the ravenous hydra build vs. most matchups - its really strong in lane, in the midgame, and is the only item (other than GA) that really gives panth a place in the lategame with his ability to duel and splitpush.

Also chalice is really solid still!
Writerman what
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
July 24 2013 04:58 GMT
#155
On July 24 2013 11:18 Atrioc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 08:23 OmegaKnetus wrote:
This guide is amazing: I bought pantheon and never looked back. At my level, in silver pantheon is just absolute faceroll as most midlaners overextend all the time and I finish most games fed as hell.

It's just so satisfying to rape those ryzes, kassadins and fizzes that run rampant at this elo.

After the tear nerf is it still one of your key items? I feel like it takes ages to charge it. Maybe just buying a chalice would be better at this point.


I like it against certain enemies where you really have to soften them up with a bunch of spells before you can commit to going in, or generally any situation where it looks more like a farm fest, but generally I have been skipping tear lately and going very frequently for the ravenous hydra build vs. most matchups - its really strong in lane, in the midgame, and is the only item (other than GA) that really gives panth a place in the lategame with his ability to duel and splitpush.

Also chalice is really solid still!


I just re-installed the game and played a bit last week after a couple months hiatus.

Personally I disagree with Chalice unless you don't start with a flask.

When I played I pretty much never ran into mana issues simply by getting flask. Since I found myself shopping a decent amount given the mobility of Panth's ult, I didn't really run out of mana with flask. Therefore, if you start with a flask, I would get a hexdrinker over the chalice (if you feel you need magic resist), since the hexdrinker is way more relevant mid-game and builds into a decent late-game item.

Just my 2 cents.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 17:13:36
July 24 2013 17:10 GMT
#156
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Some of the most fun I've had on a champ in awhile. Thanks for sick guide, managed to snowball the whole game by just getting 2 early kills and exerting pressure everywhere. In that situation is it worth getting a defensive item earlier? I kind of just went BT because I went back to base with 3k gold one time.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 24 2013 18:36 GMT
#157
On July 25 2013 02:10 Numy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Some of the most fun I've had on a champ in awhile. Thanks for sick guide, managed to snowball the whole game by just getting 2 early kills and exerting pressure everywhere. In that situation is it worth getting a defensive item earlier? I kind of just went BT because I went back to base with 3k gold one time.

dat PvP.net placement to "subtly" show off your desktop background.

I'm on to you, Numy.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
July 24 2013 19:08 GMT
#158
On July 24 2013 13:58 LoCicero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2013 11:18 Atrioc wrote:
On July 24 2013 08:23 OmegaKnetus wrote:
This guide is amazing: I bought pantheon and never looked back. At my level, in silver pantheon is just absolute faceroll as most midlaners overextend all the time and I finish most games fed as hell.

It's just so satisfying to rape those ryzes, kassadins and fizzes that run rampant at this elo.

After the tear nerf is it still one of your key items? I feel like it takes ages to charge it. Maybe just buying a chalice would be better at this point.


I like it against certain enemies where you really have to soften them up with a bunch of spells before you can commit to going in, or generally any situation where it looks more like a farm fest, but generally I have been skipping tear lately and going very frequently for the ravenous hydra build vs. most matchups - its really strong in lane, in the midgame, and is the only item (other than GA) that really gives panth a place in the lategame with his ability to duel and splitpush.

Also chalice is really solid still!


I just re-installed the game and played a bit last week after a couple months hiatus.

Personally I disagree with Chalice unless you don't start with a flask.

When I played I pretty much never ran into mana issues simply by getting flask. Since I found myself shopping a decent amount given the mobility of Panth's ult, I didn't really run out of mana with flask. Therefore, if you start with a flask, I would get a hexdrinker over the chalice (if you feel you need magic resist), since the hexdrinker is way more relevant mid-game and builds into a decent late-game item.

Just my 2 cents.


Hey hey. Welcome back, a few days ago I saw a red post about how you taught him pantheon, or something. Too bad I didn't save it.
Freeeeeeedom
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-24 20:47:12
July 24 2013 20:43 GMT
#159
On July 25 2013 03:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 02:10 Numy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Some of the most fun I've had on a champ in awhile. Thanks for sick guide, managed to snowball the whole game by just getting 2 early kills and exerting pressure everywhere. In that situation is it worth getting a defensive item earlier? I kind of just went BT because I went back to base with 3k gold one time.

dat PvP.net placement to "subtly" show off your desktop background.

I'm on to you, Numy.


Just spreading the love is all.

edit: I'm serious about the snowballing question. I've had a few games were I've gotten pretty far ahead but been unable to really convert that advantage into a win. Specially when it comes to when do you get defensive item and when to just keep going offensive.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 24 2013 20:57 GMT
#160
On July 25 2013 05:43 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2013 03:36 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 25 2013 02:10 Numy wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Some of the most fun I've had on a champ in awhile. Thanks for sick guide, managed to snowball the whole game by just getting 2 early kills and exerting pressure everywhere. In that situation is it worth getting a defensive item earlier? I kind of just went BT because I went back to base with 3k gold one time.

dat PvP.net placement to "subtly" show off your desktop background.

I'm on to you, Numy.


Just spreading the love is all.

edit: I'm serious about the snowballing question. I've had a few games were I've gotten pretty far ahead but been unable to really convert that advantage into a win. Specially when it comes to when do you get defensive item and when to just keep going offensive.

Well, defensive options are rather limited for Panth, power spikes mean the world to him. So outside of boots, you have GA/Omen to fall back on like Atrioc mentioned. Out of my games, I haven't gotten a defensive item before I have three major offensive items built first (typically BT BC Muramana).
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