EPT[Renekton Guide] SoloRenektonOnly 2500 Diamond 1 - Page 4
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NotJumperer
United States1371 Posts
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kongoline
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Souza
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On June 09 2013 15:22 kongoline wrote: one thing i learned from youngbuck stream (renek main) is to AA once before using W which resets ur aa animation u get max dmg that way, oh and ofc paying attention to ur fury bar 50+ fury W hurts A LOT Renekton's abilities can all cut some of your auto attack animation making for faster trades. Your Q and E can be used right after your auto attack does damage which is a little after half way though the animation. Renekton's that know this can finish a full trade (E-->AA-->Q-->AA-->W-->AA-->E) about 1 second faster than someone who waits for the animations to finish. | ||
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Mauzel
United States421 Posts
Thanks man. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
I realize that Kennen is just a hard lane for Renekton. I am wondering if it is possible to gracefully lose vs it. So, I'll just go over some of the obvious problems I have with this match-up. Kennen just harasses me from 6 billion range.. If I try to EWQ combo onto him I eat a free combo from him (Even if he just blew his charged AA, he just blows EQW-> follow up auto attacks while I try to flee). As long as I dodge his Q, I feel like I can sustain myself after lv 3 with my clear. Especially if he ever burns EW to push a wave, I can match his push with my combo just as easily.. Or punish him if he sticks around close enough that I can dash to him (But, I don't feel that this matters much because of his sustain.) However, I just can't seem to push out ahead of him. I'm wondering if perhaps I should just try to call for a lane swap or to just farm it out as best as possible. Thanks! | ||
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Deleted User 45971
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 17 2013 18:24 OdinOfPergo wrote: Hi friends! I realize that Kennen is just a hard lane for Renekton. I am wondering if it is possible to gracefully lose vs it. So, I'll just go over some of the obvious problems I have with this match-up. Kennen just harasses me from 6 billion range.. If I try to EWQ combo onto him I eat a free combo from him (Even if he just blew his charged AA, he just blows EQW-> follow up auto attacks while I try to flee). As long as I dodge his Q, I feel like I can sustain myself after lv 3 with my clear. Especially if he ever burns EW to push a wave, I can match his push with my combo just as easily.. Or punish him if he sticks around close enough that I can dash to him (But, I don't feel that this matters much because of his sustain.) However, I just can't seem to push out ahead of him. I'm wondering if perhaps I should just try to call for a lane swap or to just farm it out as best as possible. Thanks! Look for the LCS game of VES, where Cris had a renekton matchup against kennen. He won the lane by shoving out the lane early and then backing because kennen can't shove fast enough. Then shoving it out again, rinse and repeat. Of course make sure to ward river. | ||
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Souza
74 Posts
On June 17 2013 20:37 Potatisodlaren wrote: Your videos are a bit outdated since they highlight you getting to start with extra experience and fury which is no longer possible. The Jayce matchup is especially hard for me, I just get pushed no matter what. If he pokes me he gets creep aggro which causes the lane to push and if I'm out of auto range he just auto-q push lane and I get in the situation which you mention is bad, getting pushed to tower and constantly poked. I just can't seem to get the lane pushed at all to be in a position to go at him like you do with your exp-boosted examples unless I get help from a jungler. You need to accept that you will get poked early on while trying to get the lane in the position I show in the video. Start Q if you feel that you get pushed in too hard and use Q to help you shove. I play the lane the exact same way as I show in the video without the extra exp. Starting rejuve 5 hp pot I trade 2-3 health pots to get to level 2 (W->E) and get the wave lined up next to the bush so I can dodge into it to avoid poke and its smooth sailing from there. The only thing that changes from the video is it takes an extra pot to sustain the extra poke due to the delayed level 2. If you are having that much trouble just start with Q and then there is no way Jayce can push in on you. It sounds like you are playing far too safe and just taking poke for no reason, if you are getting poked you better be getting last hits, trading, or pushing the lane. If he just spam autos the minions what is stopping you from doing the same? | ||
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Souza
74 Posts
On June 18 2013 10:15 wei2coolman wrote: Look for the LCS game of VES, where Cris had a renekton matchup against kennen. He won the lane by shoving out the lane early and then backing because kennen can't shove fast enough. Then shoving it out again, rinse and repeat. Of course make sure to ward river. Against good ken's I just spam shove with a solid ward. He can't push back unless he uses his abilities on minions and if he does this he is a non-threat. Against ken I try and get close to him right after he throws his auto attack proc on a minion and try to use E and Stun him during/before lightning rush. As long as you don't have a mark on you you will be able to get off a solid trade. If you do this you must land E or you will be in big trouble if he dodges and kites you. I like Ghost in this matchup because Ken is easy to kill if you can stick to him and Ghost does a better job than Flash. If Ken is ever pushed to your tower just ghost ult and kill him he can't run all the way to tower before he dies. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 18 2013 13:08 Souza wrote: Against good ken's I just spam shove with a solid ward. He can't push back unless he uses his abilities on minions and if he does this he is a non-threat. Against ken I try and get close to him right after he throws his auto attack proc on a minion and try to use E and Stun him during/before lightning rush. As long as you don't have a mark on you you will be able to get off a solid trade. If you do this you must land E or you will be in big trouble if he dodges and kites you. I like Ghost in this matchup because Ken is easy to kill if you can stick to him and Ghost does a better job than Flash. If Ken is ever pushed to your tower just ghost ult and kill him he can't run all the way to tower before he dies. At level 1 Kennen doesn't have much kill potential or push potential. If you start the shove as Renekton you'll reach level 2 before Kennen, and there's nothing he can do to kill you. Remember the key is not to die; but you can get harassed on as Renekton during shove, cuz you just gunna back anyways. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Also, the guides gave me the confidence to have the killer instinct to dive into the the enemy team 1v5 when the situation calls for it, which used to be a huge weakness of mine when playing croc because I didn't know his potential and just played scared. I don't think I ever truly realized how ridiculous Renekton was until I figured out you just build tanky with a brutalizer, ult and walk into an entire enemy team and cause so much havoc with his tankiness and AOE damage. It was pretty much perfect for me because playing Jax taught me how to be an anti-carry, and Renekton plays similarly in terms of where he should be in a teamfight, but he's more like an anti-enemy team champion that excels in the midgame. This unlocked most of the fun in the champion for me. Successfully going in 1v5 as croc, knowing the enemy team can't effectively deal with you until your team can followup is so much fun. I can't even count the number of games I've won mid-game by just eviscerating the enemy team at dragon or baron with a vengeance. People have made so many positive comments about my Renekton play, because he just takes games into his jaws and rips them to shreds when played well. I highly, highly recommend people who want to learn a new, strong top laner read these guides in depth and watch all of the videos. Also, are you ever going to get to the versus Elise video or are your prioritizes elsewhere at the moment? Elise top has made a bit of a resurgence lately (though I'm guessing it will probably die off again after her spiderlings tanking tower after rappel gets changed), and she's pretty much the only champion that I still have massive issues against. Pushing the wave and forcing her to last hit at tower helps, but I feel like I'm beating extremely sub-par Elises when I win, and can't do anything at all against a good one. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
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Hyren
United States817 Posts
At this point I decided I needed a vamp scepter to match her sustain since she now had w leveled up quite a bit. This seemed to work fine, but I didn't know what to do with the vamp scepter. I ended up just sitting on it the whole game because there was never a point that I thought I could afford to invest in another damage item. If I think i'm going to go vamp scepter anyways should I just skip brutalizer and build tiamat (and later hydra) as my one damage item? | ||
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snpnx
Germany454 Posts
On August 03 2013 14:02 Hyren wrote: I laned against an Irelia today and it started really well. I missed out on killing her early by about 30 health and force her to back by level 3. I went brutalizer first and after nearly missing out on a kill again I successfully dove with my jungler but he got the kill. At this point I decided I needed a vamp scepter to match her sustain since she now had w leveled up quite a bit. This seemed to work fine, but I didn't know what to do with the vamp scepter. I ended up just sitting on it the whole game because there was never a point that I thought I could afford to invest in another damage item. If I think i'm going to go vamp scepter anyways should I just skip brutalizer and build tiamat (and later hydra) as my one damage item? Not sure if the vamp-scepter is really needed. Even though Irelia has really strong sustain, with pots and good usage of Q you shouldn't be that much outclassed. I'd still go sunfire cape vs her, maybe a dorans if you need a bit more sustain. | ||
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Hyren
United States817 Posts
On August 07 2013 20:24 snpnx wrote: Not sure if the vamp-scepter is really needed. Even though Irelia has really strong sustain, with pots and good usage of Q you shouldn't be that much outclassed. I'd still go sunfire cape vs her, maybe a dorans if you need a bit more sustain. Yeah I was having a bit of a love affair with Hydra and liked the lifesteal in lane, but but after playing him pretty extensively over the last week I decided it really didn't work with Renekton as well as, say, Lee Sin unless I was already snowballing pretty hard. Would rather stick with Brutalizer as my main damage item and buy health pots as necessary. | ||
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Silentenigma
Turkey2037 Posts
Also you dont need vampiric for sustain, since you max Q first, your empowered Q is pretty good at sustaining in lane. | ||
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nath
United States1788 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11528 Posts
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