[Renekton Guide] SoloRenektonOnly 2500 Diamond 1

On April 28 2013 08:41 emperorchampion wrote:
Always nice to see new content on TL

My two comments would be to add together a compilation of a bunch of games vs whatever champion to show different ways the lane can go (how to play from behind, how to play when you're ahead, how different junglers can change the matchup, ect); and to focus more on Renekton specific aspects of the game instead of general game concepts (when to back, what to do after a won fight, ect.) since I think there's enough of that stuff floating around as it is.

So then you can still have ~10min video, but instead of "after winning a fight take dragon...", you could have "and in this team comp I did this instead of this because...".

On April 28 2013 10:15 Jamial wrote:
I like the guide. Very in depth. One thing that my OCD demands me to write: Please stop saying eCscape. It's Escape. There's no "k" sound before s. ><

I would like more talk about mastery/rune choices depending on matchup, and when to build damage vs. tank (more indepth in that regard!

On April 28 2013 19:08 Dusty wrote:
You should make a guide on fury-management on Renekton. It's a concept I feel not many know how to grasp, even at the Diamond level. It's also, in my opinion, the hardest and strongest mechanic in Renekton's kit.

On April 29 2013 07:47 LaM wrote:
You always impress when I see your Renekton in game or on stream. Very scary to face Diamond 1 players who only play 1 champ on their champ of choice. Good video too, I didn't notice any problems with your accent so don't worry about it.

On April 29 2013 21:52 AsmodeusXI wrote:
STOP TEACHING OTHER PEOPLE HOW TO CROC OUT.

+ Show Spoiler +

On April 30 2013 00:54 pschiu wrote:
Very helpful vid for me! If you're taking requests, I'd appreciate one against a top lane Zed.

On April 30 2013 01:13 Mondeezy wrote:
Trying to (re)learn croc top since I need tankier tops, thanks for posting these! Looking forward to more

Do you stream?

On April 30 2013 01:58 TomatoShark wrote:
nice guide is it bad that I do armor pen red armor yellow scaling mr blue 2 ms quint 1 ad and go 21/9? :<

On April 30 2013 04:02 Shikyo wrote:
Actually, full AD is only better than Apen marks AD quints until lvl 3 and afterwards becomes better, especially if you go for a Brutalizer or Doran Blades.


Let's compare empowered Q and W with no AD starting item and 9/21/0 and full AD runes vs AD quints and Apen marks at lvl 3 against a 40 armor target(lvl 1 all skills):

Q:
Full AD runes: 80 dmg

APen Marks, AD Quints: 81 dmg

W:
Full AD runes: 141 dmg

APen Marks, AD Quints: 140 dmg

Also, the 2.25 AD ratio is a common misconception. It's pretty much an autoattack, so it only has a 1.25 AD bonus ratio. In addition, it is off all AD instead of bonus AD, which means that it includes your base AD as well and hence leads into the rune portion being significantly smaller than expected.

On April 30 2013 05:07 Souza wrote:

Just did the math myself and you are right about empowered, however non empowered resulted the with AD runes coming out slightly ahead. Attack damage imo is still better because Renekton All-ins occur at level 2 (sometimes level 3) where AD runes come out slightly ahead. AD runes also help last hitting. I think it is very close and I ran AD quits and Apen marks for a long time before switching, I guess it all depends on if you can gain an advantage between levels 1-3 or not.

You raised a great point about the W ratio being base AD leading to AD runes being less effective but the 2.25 ratio is not a misconception. The reasoning is that W resets your auto attack animation so saying one of the auto attacks doesn't count
is wrong and means the ability is not being used to its fullest. W should be used immediately after an auto attack.

On April 30 2013 04:04 sylverfyre wrote:
What about something like 17/13 which lets you grab Unyielding/Block but no further defense masteries? You get most (but not all) of the direct durability like that, giving up mostly honor guard, bonus% HP (doesnt really help early) armor/MR based on # of opponents (ok but not amazing in lane against a non-mixed opponent, better in teamfights) or tenacity (already a choice)

On May 06 2013 07:37 Flopplop wrote:
I got dumpstered on by garen. After my dash stun he Qs me and spin to win... Ended up trading harder than me i had to use empowered Qs to heal up... didnt really die to him but i felt like i did nothing and we ended up losing..

Any tips?

On May 12 2013 20:38 zer0das wrote:
That vs Jayce video was very informative. Glad you're working on assembling clips for a vs Elise video too.

On May 13 2013 22:44 101toss wrote:
how to play nunu vs renekton:

1. don't die to all-ins
2. buy armguard

your move

On May 13 2013 21:55 sylverfyre wrote:
I'd imagine it should feel very similar to the vs. Jayce matchup. Shove quick, get 2 first, trade with abilities, trade then dodge into bush, don't eat too many skillshots. Like many vs. ranged characters, you want W/E early. Don't use W if you're blind (though I believe? that the stun goes off anyway, but you lose a ton of damage.)

Early Ninja Tabis go a long way vs someone like Quinn - at some point you essentially start ignoring her damage entirely, shoving with Q and trading when you decide.

On May 15 2013 02:56 krndandaman wrote:
what are the most common lane opponents you face as renekton?

On June 06 2013 10:02 Brambled wrote:
The video seems extra dark and volume is low. Nice short and to the point video though.

On June 07 2013 01:27 snpnx wrote:
Nice guides, could you do one on Renek vs Riven?
I play both characters a lot, so I'd really like to see what you think about the matchup.

On June 07 2013 02:22 Sandster wrote:
I wanted to say thank you for these great Renekton guides. I've played him almost exclusively in top lane for the past couple weeks with very good results.

One of the biggest troubles I have, which stems from my lack of experience top lane, is when I win my lane and push down t1 turret in the mid game, opening me to roam. However I often have a hard time making plays or taking objectives on the rest of the map before the wave is shoved back at my turret, and since I don't want my lane opponent to catch back up I often end up split pushing all the way to their t2 turret (usually warding their jungle).

A fed Renekton is so strong around this time that I really feel continuing to push top is wasting his power peak, but I'm not sure how to handle this situation since I don't want to lose my turret or miss out on several waves of farm. I'm more used to champs like Shen or Jax that can just sit top. Any advice here?

On June 07 2013 04:41 Souza wrote:

It's a tough matchup to describe because the skill level of Riven really determines how the lane will play out. I haven't played many good Riven players lately so I'll have to see if I have the footage needed to make the video. If I do I will make Renekton Vs Riven after I finish a Renekton Vs Rumble guide i'm working on!

On June 09 2013 15:22 kongoline wrote:
one thing i learned from youngbuck stream (renek main) is to AA once before using W which resets ur aa animation u get max dmg that way, oh and ofc paying attention to ur fury bar 50+ fury W hurts A LOT

On June 17 2013 18:24 OdinOfPergo wrote:
Hi friends!

I realize that Kennen is just a hard lane for Renekton. I am wondering if it is possible to gracefully lose vs it.
So, I'll just go over some of the obvious problems I have with this match-up.

Kennen just harasses me from 6 billion range..
If I try to EWQ combo onto him I eat a free combo from him (Even if he just blew his charged AA, he just blows EQW-> follow up auto attacks while I try to flee).
As long as I dodge his Q, I feel like I can sustain myself after lv 3 with my clear.
Especially if he ever burns EW to push a wave, I can match his push with my combo just as easily..
Or punish him if he sticks around close enough that I can dash to him (But, I don't feel that this matters much because of his sustain.)
However, I just can't seem to push out ahead of him.
I'm wondering if perhaps I should just try to call for a lane swap or to just farm it out as best as possible.

Thanks!

On June 17 2013 20:37 Potatisodlaren wrote:
Your videos are a bit outdated since they highlight you getting to start with extra experience and fury which is no longer possible. The Jayce matchup is especially hard for me, I just get pushed no matter what. If he pokes me he gets creep aggro which causes the lane to push and if I'm out of auto range he just auto-q push lane and I get in the situation which you mention is bad, getting pushed to tower and constantly poked. I just can't seem to get the lane pushed at all to be in a position to go at him like you do with your exp-boosted examples unless I get help from a jungler.

On June 18 2013 10:15 wei2coolman wrote:

Look for the LCS game of VES, where Cris had a renekton matchup against kennen. He won the lane by shoving out the lane early and then backing because kennen can't shove fast enough. Then shoving it out again, rinse and repeat. Of course make sure to ward river.

On June 18 2013 13:08 Souza wrote:

Against good ken's I just spam shove with a solid ward. He can't push back unless he uses his abilities on minions and if he does this he is a non-threat. Against ken I try and get close to him right after he throws his auto attack proc on a minion and try to use E and Stun him during/before lightning rush. As long as you don't have a mark on you you will be able to get off a solid trade. If you do this you must land E or you will be in big trouble if he dodges and kites you. I like Ghost in this matchup because Ken is easy to kill if you can stick to him and Ghost does a better job than Flash. If Ken is ever pushed to your tower just ghost ult and kill him he can't run all the way to tower before he dies.

On August 03 2013 14:02 Hyren wrote:
I laned against an Irelia today and it started really well. I missed out on killing her early by about 30 health and force her to back by level 3. I went brutalizer first and after nearly missing out on a kill again I successfully dove with my jungler but he got the kill.

At this point I decided I needed a vamp scepter to match her sustain since she now had w leveled up quite a bit. This seemed to work fine, but I didn't know what to do with the vamp scepter. I ended up just sitting on it the whole game because there was never a point that I thought I could afford to invest in another damage item. If I think i'm going to go vamp scepter anyways should I just skip brutalizer and build tiamat (and later hydra) as my one damage item?

On August 07 2013 20:24 snpnx wrote:


Not sure if the vamp-scepter is really needed. Even though Irelia has really strong sustain, with pots and good usage of Q you shouldn't be that much outclassed. I'd still go sunfire cape vs her, maybe a dorans if you need a bit more sustain.