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1godless
Profile Joined August 2011
United States247 Posts
April 09 2013 10:14 GMT
#101
In jungle I have been running ap spirit stone item into boots of choice into nashors. This is then followed by situational items, deathcap if super fed, abyssal vs heavy magic damage etc. I really like the build for the spell vamp, mana regen, atspd and ap. It makes diana clear really fast and just purely out farm lanes.

Other build suggestions?

And is it worth it to gank before 6? Before 6 ganks feel useless but afterwards I am a living god!
The enemy's throne is down
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
April 09 2013 12:34 GMT
#102
On April 09 2013 19:14 1godless wrote:
In jungle I have been running ap spirit stone item into boots of choice into nashors. This is then followed by situational items, deathcap if super fed, abyssal vs heavy magic damage etc. I really like the build for the spell vamp, mana regen, atspd and ap. It makes diana clear really fast and just purely out farm lanes.

Other build suggestions?

And is it worth it to gank before 6? Before 6 ganks feel useless but afterwards I am a living god!

spirit stone -> sorcs -> armguard -> nashors -> finish zhonyas

apparently you're supposed to rush a stinger but if your goal is to stop farming jungle and just kill everyone an armguard is really good for tower diving

don't upgrade the spirit stone until very late and even then i prefer the one that sets people on fire so that once you're on top of the enemy adc and you've got no cooldowns to blow, your autos do something while you wait
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Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-09 13:37:36
April 09 2013 13:36 GMT
#103
On April 09 2013 21:34 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2013 19:14 1godless wrote:
In jungle I have been running ap spirit stone item into boots of choice into nashors. This is then followed by situational items, deathcap if super fed, abyssal vs heavy magic damage etc. I really like the build for the spell vamp, mana regen, atspd and ap. It makes diana clear really fast and just purely out farm lanes.

Other build suggestions?

And is it worth it to gank before 6? Before 6 ganks feel useless but afterwards I am a living god!

spirit stone -> sorcs -> armguard -> nashors -> finish zhonyas

apparently you're supposed to rush a stinger but if your goal is to stop farming jungle and just kill everyone an armguard is really good for tower diving

don't upgrade the spirit stone until very late and even then i prefer the one that sets people on fire so that once you're on top of the enemy adc and you've got no cooldowns to blow, your autos do something while you wait


You're Diana. With a Nashor's your autos do something. The Spell Vamp is amazing on Diana jungle, due to Spell Vamp working on Smite (Saved me on many a dive smiting an enemy creep for instant 150+ heal). With AP being miles better aswell for shield and burst (.6 scaling on passive). Why would you spend 300G EXTRA on Elder Lizard, when Spectral Wraith is so much better on Diana? ><
Flaf?
1godless
Profile Joined August 2011
United States247 Posts
April 09 2013 17:13 GMT
#104
True, but I just feel like I dont have the raw, oh now you're dead, burst I have from lane. Obviously this has to do with less farm in the jungle but I also believe it might be because of the build. Nashors plus spectral wraith also has 0 tank stats except the cdr for your shield and vamp.
The enemy's throne is down
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
April 09 2013 22:35 GMT
#105
On April 10 2013 02:13 1godless wrote:
True, but I just feel like I dont have the raw, oh now you're dead, burst I have from lane. Obviously this has to do with less farm in the jungle but I also believe it might be because of the build. Nashors plus spectral wraith also has 0 tank stats except the cdr for your shield and vamp.


I don't have this issue when I jungle Diana. What masteries/runes do you run? - Diana has great trade damage even in the jungle, and has both burst (post 6) and heavy sustained dmg due to her passive. Spectral Wraith gives her everything she wants, and you can just go hourglass from there. Nashor's really isn't an item you should rush on jungle Diana, unless you're snowballing unbelievably hard.
Flaf?
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
April 09 2013 23:59 GMT
#106
Also in regards to Pre-6 ganks, it really depends on lanes. If you have irelia top, and they didn't ward, go for the gank. If their mid is past the midway point in lane, gank. Your counterganks are incredible aswell, so I see no reason not to atleast be near where you think their jungler will gank first.
Flaf?
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-15 13:57:54
June 15 2013 13:57 GMT
#107
So how do you actually counter diana? I play her exclusively mid and I've can't say that I've ever lost the lane, and I just played ryze v diana and it was fucking painful. She just destroyed me past 6 even after feeding fb. What do you do when the other guy firstpicks diana?
Twik
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania16 Posts
June 15 2013 14:39 GMT
#108
You can't really counter Diana. The best thing you could do is bully her hard pre-6 and try to stop her from bursting your squishies in teamfights. Ryze actually does quite well against Diana if you recognize the fact that, unless you have a huge lead, at level 6 she destroys you if you don't build Ryze properly. In some cases I'd even delay Tear until after null-magic mantle and at least Catalyst, preferably Rod of Ages. Also you can't ever get away with going utility heavy masteries.
The info in this thread is really outdated though, and you shouldn't refer to it.
No more counting dollars, we'll be counting stars.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
June 15 2013 15:43 GMT
#109
yeah, I realised that after the game. I went tear into nmm into catalyst and then got mercs but that wasn't really enough. I guess I'll just pick bruisers for mid if I see her again - doesn't happen that often thankfully.
Twik
Profile Joined June 2013
Romania16 Posts
June 15 2013 19:54 GMT
#110
If Diana reacts to you picking bruisers properly then she can survive and outscale lategame. Try to gank other lanes if you can't deal with her, especially post-6. Teleport should also be taken into consideration since very few champions can kill Diana.
No more counting dollars, we'll be counting stars.
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
June 19 2013 18:46 GMT
#111
New nashor's tooth seems to be a definite easy choice for midgame pickup, but I'm new so I could be wrong. Thoughts?
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35126 Posts
June 19 2013 18:53 GMT
#112
On June 20 2013 03:46 Audemed wrote:
New nashor's tooth seems to be a definite easy choice for midgame pickup, but I'm new so I could be wrong. Thoughts?

If you can afford to get it in lieu of tankieness, go ahead.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 19 2013 20:15 GMT
#113
Akali is a good counterpick vs Diana actually
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 19 2013 21:43 GMT
#114
On June 20 2013 05:15 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Akali is a good counterpick vs Diana actually


UHHHHH WHAT
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
June 19 2013 22:06 GMT
#115
Pretty sure Diana actually is the one who counters Akali --
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Kenpark
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany2350 Posts
June 19 2013 22:19 GMT
#116
On June 20 2013 07:06 Shikyo wrote:
Pretty sure Diana actually is the one who counters Akali --


Diana needs mana.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35126 Posts
June 19 2013 22:43 GMT
#117
On June 20 2013 07:19 Kenpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 07:06 Shikyo wrote:
Pretty sure Diana actually is the one who counters Akali --


Diana needs mana.

And Akali is limited by energy.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-19 22:47:14
June 19 2013 22:46 GMT
#118
On June 20 2013 07:19 Kenpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 07:06 Shikyo wrote:
Pretty sure Diana actually is the one who counters Akali --


Diana needs mana.

Oh I see, so every single mana champion loses to every single non-mana champion. This is some flawless logic. Let's rewrite our countermatchup charts.

Just FYI, Akali can do W -> Q -> E -> OUT OF ENERGY. She cannot use E at all due to energy. It limits her far more than mana limits Diana. She barely even has mana costs.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
June 19 2013 22:48 GMT
#119
On June 20 2013 07:19 Kenpark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 07:06 Shikyo wrote:
Pretty sure Diana actually is the one who counters Akali --


Diana needs mana.


It doesn't matter. Diana will outtrade Akali almost exclusively by autoattacking.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
June 19 2013 23:25 GMT
#120
The later the game goes the higher her burst potential is on you and her burst potential is not limited by having to land a skillshot. The last time I played vs an Akali as Diana mid was against a diamond and he completely annihilated me post-6. You're not "trading" against a good Akali even pre-6. She's getting one q and one auto then backing out while you spend mana on W, only half of which absorbs the burst damage. She has innate spellvamp and you don't. She has a resource which doesn't need sustain and you don't. She doesn't have to build d-rings and you do. Her burst at level 6 is comparable to yours except it's not reliant on landing a skillshot to do half of it.

Perhaps the issue is that I'm really bad with Diana? I mean I'm only platinum but I think I know how to play her decently. Akali will snowball really hard if she gets ahead even by a little.
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