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JokerSan
Profile Joined April 2005
United States306 Posts
March 20 2012 20:47 GMT
#101
The suspense is terrible, I hope it will last.
LoL: Soles | forever 1600
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
March 20 2012 23:02 GMT
#102
Is wukong's autoattack that follows e automatic? I'm on a 10fps laptop (home, spring break, didn't want to bring my computer home), and it's hard to tell. Like if I follow up with q too quickly, will I skip the autoattack when I'm trying to e>aa>q?
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 21 2012 01:15 GMT
#103
On March 21 2012 08:02 billy5000 wrote:
Is wukong's autoattack that follows e automatic? I'm on a 10fps laptop (home, spring break, didn't want to bring my computer home), and it's hard to tell. Like if I follow up with q too quickly, will I skip the autoattack when I'm trying to e>aa>q?

Yeah you will.
After hitting E, Wu will attempt to AA automatically. Because of his clumbsy animation though, if you hit Q too early, you miss out on a free AA. Based on how those spells interact with each other, you'd like to have Q'd your enemy before E'ing him anyway, so try to do that whenever possible. I'm aware that's not always an option, but if it is, you should opt for it.
currently rooting for myself.
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
March 23 2012 15:28 GMT
#104
Anyone got videos of epic Wukong decoy jukes?

A lot of these I just searched on youtube are really bad or low level jukes...

billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
March 24 2012 21:13 GMT
#105
On March 21 2012 10:15 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 08:02 billy5000 wrote:
Is wukong's autoattack that follows e automatic? I'm on a 10fps laptop (home, spring break, didn't want to bring my computer home), and it's hard to tell. Like if I follow up with q too quickly, will I skip the autoattack when I'm trying to e>aa>q?

Yeah you will.
After hitting E, Wu will attempt to AA automatically. Because of his clumbsy animation though, if you hit Q too early, you miss out on a free AA. Based on how those spells interact with each other, you'd like to have Q'd your enemy before E'ing him anyway, so try to do that whenever possible. I'm aware that's not always an option, but if it is, you should opt for it.


I'm having a problem of missing my q timing on a moving target after the autoattack. Is it supposed to be normal for the opponent to get out of range of your q? eh, I'm probably missing my timing, but I just wanted to make sure
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
March 25 2012 00:02 GMT
#106
Wuking's Q animation is worse than Garen's. If you don't stutter step close enough to Q or you stutter step too soon after pressing Q you lose the game
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billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
March 26 2012 13:01 GMT
#107
Okay, I'm finally going to say it: How the hell do you play against fiora without ganks? Seems like even if I try to trade under ALL OF MY MINIONS @ lvl 1, while at the same time I'm miles away from drawing aggro from his minions, I end up losing. Then a few levels after, it feels like I'm up against a freaking pantheon with him parrying my q. From my experience, it's useless to even fake my q to use it after an extra autoattack because of her atk spd steroid. We both started cloth 5 pots, and I used armor quints+reds.
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
March 26 2012 13:21 GMT
#108
On March 25 2012 06:13 billy5000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 10:15 Shiv. wrote:
On March 21 2012 08:02 billy5000 wrote:
Is wukong's autoattack that follows e automatic? I'm on a 10fps laptop (home, spring break, didn't want to bring my computer home), and it's hard to tell. Like if I follow up with q too quickly, will I skip the autoattack when I'm trying to e>aa>q?

Yeah you will.
After hitting E, Wu will attempt to AA automatically. Because of his clumbsy animation though, if you hit Q too early, you miss out on a free AA. Based on how those spells interact with each other, you'd like to have Q'd your enemy before E'ing him anyway, so try to do that whenever possible. I'm aware that's not always an option, but if it is, you should opt for it.


I'm having a problem of missing my q timing on a moving target after the autoattack. Is it supposed to be normal for the opponent to get out of range of your q? eh, I'm probably missing my timing, but I just wanted to make sure

Used to be like that for me, too. I have the habit of AA-move-AA because I play a lot of Irelia (and as of lately, Riven) so moving inbetween attacks just comes naturally and their attack animations work really well for me. Wu has a horrible animation though, at least that's my personal take on it. I don't like it at all.

To get back to your question, yeah it is normal. What I did was go into a bot game and just practice AA - move just the slightest bit - Q. This way, I learned to get my Qs on moving targets more often than not.

Concerning Fiora, well, she's a grand duelist. There's a very limited number of champs who can straight up fight her in lane, and Wu isn't one of them. You don't need to, though - just farm up passively and safely, wait for teamfights to erupt, and be happy bout how much better your ultimate is for those.
currently rooting for myself.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 26 2012 14:29 GMT
#109
fiora gets 15 free AD, blocking one of your autos and rebounding an attack's worth of damage back, and has a more useful passive @ level 1. You just gotta suck it up and accept that fighting her level 1 is a terrible idea unless you're Pantheon.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
March 26 2012 15:46 GMT
#110
On February 15 2012 07:52 Mogwai wrote:
Riven destroys Wukong, so does Pantheon.

Basically you need to be able to beat Wukong in damage trades, so it's a pretty limited number of champs. He hits hard enough to knock most sustainers out of lane, though I'd bet WW is a problem since he can just rush Frozen and Q you every time you come in with E. I've heard Irelia is problematic, but I'm having a hard time seeing it (have never played it). Wu's actually strong enough on burst trades to beat Swain and Rumble in my experience, so that's pretty impressive, I wonder if he could handle Ryze, Kennen, and Yorrick (the other Melee countering assholes).



Wukong new favorite champ, but I got completely smoked by a Yorrick once in lane. Luckily, lategame I was still ok and we won.

Ever used W in teamfights to get to the squishies? I had some success with E onto whoever I can get to, then immediately W and run up to the enemy AP/AD, then Q + Ult. They seem to be caught off guard fairly often by this.
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 26 2012 16:24 GMT
#111
I feel like I can beat Yorick with wu by going 9/21/0.

And yea, W can do all sorts of shit, but be careful with it when they have an oracles because if you get caught trying to be cute with an initiation like that you can get blown up before you do anything.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
March 26 2012 17:14 GMT
#112
There's so many options with 's' mindgames that I feel like i've barely explored it. I got caught in river very low hp by a Shaco yesterday, turned towards the jungle entrance, and s'd. He overran me into the bush chasing my "stealth", and i was able to W away towards bot lane and escape that way. Shaco was like "wow, wtf man, nice"

shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Theoren
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada810 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 08:07:40
March 27 2012 08:06 GMT
#113
So Lulu top. What the hell are you supposed to do against her.? She out trades you at every level it seems, zones you completely if you try to just farm, and her little fairie reveals you so you can't disengage. I eventually had to resort to E'ing in for cs and immediately W'ing out without any auto's or I would get revealed and take huge damage. Even with my ult I couldn't go on her because she would just ult me away and then chase me down and kill me. I mean I got first blood on their jungler 1 minute into the game and I still couldn't do anything. Is this just a terrible match up, or is there some trick to it I'm not seeing.

It's something I'll try to avoid in the future, but it was hard to know it was coming till the last pick.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
March 27 2012 15:30 GMT
#114
I actually had a game WITH and ad-Lulu, and was quite surprised by her effectiveness. I'm glad I had her on my side, Theoren, that sounds shitty
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 27 2012 15:53 GMT
#115
Spec 9/21/0 for the reduction from her passive and trade at level 2 or level 6 would be my best guess. Never played it though.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 28 2012 07:16 GMT
#116
I picked Monkey up a few days ago and have been experimenting with builds for him.

So far, I'm thinking boots+pot to start, then build into double DBs on first back, then second boots along with Brutalizer. From there, I was thinking just go right for FM, so probably a Giant's Belt after Brut., since you need the HPs.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Mr.Zip
Profile Joined September 2008
United States20 Posts
April 12 2012 08:33 GMT
#117
Can anyone give me some tips on how to lane as Wu vs. Shen? Specifically early- can I trade with him at all? It always feels like I lose out.

What items should I favor?
GhostOwl
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
766 Posts
April 12 2012 12:26 GMT
#118
On April 12 2012 17:33 Mr.Zip wrote:
Can anyone give me some tips on how to lane as Wu vs. Shen? Specifically early- can I trade with him at all? It always feels like I lose out.

What items should I favor?


I haven't faced the new Shen at top, but from my understanding, it's gonna be difficult because of his shield to trade evenly. More likely than not, he'll come out at top if he has good reaction time because he can shield himself from your attacks, and even his taunt does damage now.

I would play it like this: Decoy out immediately when you get a sense that he'll engage you. He'll taunt your clone (his shield will stil be up) so you should wait a couple of seconds until his shield is gone, then E -> AA -> Q -> AA

Get sustain items. Especially Philio stone. Because you'll need that health regen + mana regen to decoy out frequently.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
April 26 2012 06:02 GMT
#119
So how exactly do you lane vs Riven?

Faced a decent Riven (she blew her stun trying to farm minions sometimes, which confused me greatly since it was perfect to trade with her) but even though we were pretty even in farm and I had a gank on her, she still seemed to outrade me pretty much every time.

More importantly, is that stun on like a 2 second CD? Shits retarded. >.>
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
April 30 2012 16:34 GMT
#120
On April 26 2012 15:02 Cloud9157 wrote:
So how exactly do you lane vs Riven?

Faced a decent Riven (she blew her stun trying to farm minions sometimes, which confused me greatly since it was perfect to trade with her) but even though we were pretty even in farm and I had a gank on her, she still seemed to outrade me pretty much every time.

More importantly, is that stun on like a 2 second CD? Shits retarded. >.>

She's pretty impossible for Wu in my experience tbh. Riven's almost impossible for any strictly Melee champ to trade with. I just go Tabi + Wriggle's -> HoG -> Chain Vest vs. Riven and just try to survive and farm the lane.
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