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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
March 22 2013 08:02 GMT
#161
Anyone think this guy is absurd right now? Granted his laning is not the strongest, but I feel he has arguably the strongest team fight presence among bruisers once he has BC+LW. After that, anything he builds is a bonus.

Randy's lets him stick so well once he ults. The slow coupled with his MS buff over the duration makes carries have to take the damage he puts out.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
March 22 2013 09:45 GMT
#162
Wukong has the quietest OP winrate in our game and has had it for a long long time. idk, people just like laning too much I guess.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 14:09:38
March 22 2013 14:09 GMT
#163
On March 22 2013 18:45 Mogwai wrote:
Wukong has the quietest OP winrate in our game and has had it for a long long time. idk, people just like laning too much I guess.

It's not that high right now. Barely over 50%. Also I seem to do better with Trist than I do with high win rate champs and Trist has historically had a horrible win rate. UP OP.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 14:33:46
March 22 2013 14:30 GMT
#164
Ehh, 52% doesn't feel too high to me. If you're between 47-53%, you're fine imo. Then again this is lolking, so iunno.

All I know is he is retarded if he can at least break even in laning. Whenever I ult with BC+LW, I still cannot believe how hard he shreds an enemy team.

And while you're here smash... y u no nerf rumble flamespitter. The numbers are stupid on that thing.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-22 14:43:48
March 22 2013 14:42 GMT
#165
On March 22 2013 23:30 Cloud9157 wrote:
Ehh, 52% doesn't feel too high to me. If you're between 47-53%, you're fine imo. Then again this is lolking, so iunno.

All I know is he is retarded if he can at least break even in laning. Whenever I ult with BC+LW, I still cannot believe how hard he shreds an enemy team.

And while you're here smash... y u no nerf rumble flamespitter. The numbers are stupid on that thing.

Well yeah. With just a BT and a couple Doran's Wukong can get 200 AD pretty easily. So at level 6 he has like up to 4.8*200 damage tacked on or about 1000 physical damage on his ult from just the AD portion. Most people at level 6 don't even have 1000 life.

Not as scary in a 1v1 since autoattacks will deal a lot of damage too and Wukong can't auto in ult but in larger fights he should be scarier.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
DrunkenOne
Profile Joined August 2012
United States302 Posts
March 22 2013 17:35 GMT
#166
BT + BC is better than BC + LW imo, a stacked BT gives such a ridic boost to his ult damage because of the ratio.
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h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
March 22 2013 19:21 GMT
#167
On March 22 2013 23:42 obesechicken13 wrote:
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On March 22 2013 23:30 Cloud9157 wrote:
Ehh, 52% doesn't feel too high to me. If you're between 47-53%, you're fine imo. Then again this is lolking, so iunno.

All I know is he is retarded if he can at least break even in laning. Whenever I ult with BC+LW, I still cannot believe how hard he shreds an enemy team.

And while you're here smash... y u no nerf rumble flamespitter. The numbers are stupid on that thing.

Well yeah. With just a BT and a couple Doran's Wukong can get 200 AD pretty easily. So at level 6 he has like up to 4.8*200 damage tacked on or about 1000 physical damage on his ult from just the AD portion. Most people at level 6 don't even have 1000 life.

Not as scary in a 1v1 since autoattacks will deal a lot of damage too and Wukong can't auto in ult but in larger fights he should be scarier.



How are you supposed to get BT and a couple dorans at level 6? If I remember correctly, you have ~1500 gold when doing pretty well at level 6.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 22 2013 19:26 GMT
#168
On March 23 2013 04:21 h3r1n6 wrote:
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On March 22 2013 23:42 obesechicken13 wrote:
On March 22 2013 23:30 Cloud9157 wrote:
Ehh, 52% doesn't feel too high to me. If you're between 47-53%, you're fine imo. Then again this is lolking, so iunno.

All I know is he is retarded if he can at least break even in laning. Whenever I ult with BC+LW, I still cannot believe how hard he shreds an enemy team.

And while you're here smash... y u no nerf rumble flamespitter. The numbers are stupid on that thing.

Well yeah. With just a BT and a couple Doran's Wukong can get 200 AD pretty easily. So at level 6 he has like up to 4.8*200 damage tacked on or about 1000 physical damage on his ult from just the AD portion. Most people at level 6 don't even have 1000 life.

Not as scary in a 1v1 since autoattacks will deal a lot of damage too and Wukong can't auto in ult but in larger fights he should be scarier.



How are you supposed to get BT and a couple dorans at level 6? If I remember correctly, you have ~1500 gold when doing pretty well at level 6.

You don't. It's just the level he gets his ult I guess. Would level 13 be more reasonable for BT and 2 dorans? It's still enough to almost kill most champions at that point in the game.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 22 2013 19:39 GMT
#169
If you want raw damage look at MF's ult. Same if you want range, and dps (= short duration). Wukong's only has a knock-up on hers, really.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
March 22 2013 19:53 GMT
#170
On March 23 2013 04:39 Alaric wrote:
If you want raw damage look at MF's ult. Same if you want range, and dps (= short duration). Wukong's only has a knock-up on hers, really.

Lower AD ratio, can be sidestepped quickly, can be interupted and can not move while in use because it is channeled.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
March 22 2013 20:25 GMT
#171
On March 23 2013 04:39 Alaric wrote:
If you want raw damage look at MF's ult. Same if you want range, and dps (= short duration). Wukong's only has a knock-up on hers, really.


why not both?
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 22 2013 23:22 GMT
#172
On March 23 2013 04:53 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2013 04:39 Alaric wrote:
If you want raw damage look at MF's ult. Same if you want range, and dps (= short duration). Wukong's only has a knock-up on hers, really.

Lower AD ratio, can be sidestepped quickly, can be interupted and can not move while in use because it is channeled.

Yeah my bad about the damage, forgot it was total AD for Wukong, it's only weaker at level 6.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 25 2013 16:57 GMT
#173
Due to the discussion that was taking place in the GD thread, I made a jungle Wukong video.

"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
March 25 2013 17:03 GMT
#174
On March 23 2013 05:25 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2013 04:39 Alaric wrote:
If you want raw damage look at MF's ult. Same if you want range, and dps (= short duration). Wukong's only has a knock-up on hers, really.


why not both?

Pretty much this. They combo so well. Toss in someone who can add more lockdown or pull-in or whatever and you get a pretty classic Press-R-Win-Teamfight comp.
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