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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
September 08 2011 21:44 GMT
#81
I used it, doesn't seem as effective as SmashGizmo's build O_o the active is fun to play with though. people don't expect you to have that lil extra nuke lol.
Never Knows Best.
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
September 11 2011 23:14 GMT
#82
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dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-12 00:50:16
September 12 2011 00:49 GMT
#83
Don't waste your mana.

Problem solved. (PS if you read through this thread you'll see people have asked that question about 50000000 times.)
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
September 12 2011 02:08 GMT
#84
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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
September 12 2011 02:35 GMT
#85
Are you talking about early game? I usually don't have mana problems. I would say if you can manage your spells and don't spam then you should be fine. It depppends on how you are doing in lane though. Like if your spear poke isn't doing much then don't use it as much and don't over spear when it does as they will just back off and go heal. Poke them down but you want to save your mana for when you want to jump in for a kill. regening when you go back for items and being smart with your harass and you should be fine.
Never Knows Best.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
September 12 2011 04:24 GMT
#86
On September 12 2011 11:08 stormtemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 09:49 dnastyx wrote:
Don't waste your mana.

Problem solved. (PS if you read through this thread you'll see people have asked that question about 50000000 times.)




I saw one person who said he went meki pendant and someone said he went mana regen runes. Didn't see anything else


And some people don't do either. Read through the thread; it's only 5 pages.
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-24 08:16:34
September 24 2011 08:13 GMT
#87
So I haven't played Pantheon (or LoL for that matter) in a while. Last time I played, HSS was god awful and pretty much it was spear/stun/auto repeat. 1 level of HSS for the passive. Is that still a viable build? I loved the spear/stun pantheon to death, but couldn't stand him pre "nerf" when HSS was godly

EDIT: I think I stopped playing around 107/108 ish?
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
September 24 2011 09:25 GMT
#88
now HSS is good but only lasts 0.75 seconds (3 ticks) and has shorter CD

in early game it doesn't do jackshit though, unlike old HSS, but with 1 point in W you can use it to full duration , that's quite important

it has 3.6 bonus AD scaling against champions, that's nuts, and it finishes under 1 sec. It's your lategame superweapon
And all is illuminated.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
September 30 2011 21:17 GMT
#89
Gunblade+HSS=happy times
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 09:57:45
October 07 2011 08:31 GMT
#90
Smash, do you still open d-blade top if your opponent opens boots?
And more specific, how do you lane against an irellia?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 15:59:05
October 07 2011 15:55 GMT
#91
On September 24 2011 17:13 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
So I haven't played Pantheon (or LoL for that matter) in a while. Last time I played, HSS was god awful and pretty much it was spear/stun/auto repeat. 1 level of HSS for the passive. Is that still a viable build? I loved the spear/stun pantheon to death, but couldn't stand him pre "nerf" when HSS was godly

EDIT: I think I stopped playing around 107/108 ish?


basically last iteration, leveling w increased stun duration. now it does 1 sec at all levels, so its a 1 point wonder, and the cd goes from 13 to 9, which is really not worth leveling at all over hss

edit
On October 07 2011 17:31 JackDino wrote:
Smash, do you still open d-blade top if your opponent opens boots?
And more specific, how do you lane against an irellia?


lol, smash is tempbanned

edit2: and to try to best answer your question, i would imagine yes. the whole point of the dblade first is to go fight them at lvl 1 and either zone them or outright kill them. this will certainly work on irelia if she levels q or w first, not sure about e tho with creep dmg and all, dunno how that would work, but i'd imagine if you fought intelligently and abused ur passive it would still be ok
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 16:16:29
October 07 2011 15:57 GMT
#92
Zzz anyone else have any advice in that case:p?
I opened boots vs akali and I zoned her rather hard, tried opening Dblade and I just got kited @ the start, she could still cs with her Q.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 07 2011 16:14 GMT
#93
On October 08 2011 00:57 JackDino wrote:
Zzz anyone else have any advice in that case:p?

If u go dblade first u need to do damage at lvl 1 otherwise u will lose to pot openings. If you feel unsure or if it's a tough matchup go boots3

Laning against irelia u need to be aggressive lvl1 and keep the pressure on. I like taking tp so i can b to heal early to really pressure them.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 07 2011 16:27 GMT
#94
I forced irellia back @ lvl1( I opened boots3) but then she came to lane with full hp while I wasn't 100%, got ganked and from there on I just was scared of her dmg(she just healed up every harass with her ult, felt like it had no cd). Usually I just fill in roles/play against bad people so I don't get to play him all that much.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 07 2011 19:54 GMT
#95
On October 08 2011 01:27 JackDino wrote:
I forced irellia back @ lvl1( I opened boots3) but then she came to lane with full hp while I wasn't 100%, got ganked and from there on I just was scared of her dmg(she just healed up every harass with her ult, felt like it had no cd). Usually I just fill in roles/play against bad people so I don't get to play him all that much.

That's why I like teleport. This way if she backs, you can back as well and get in lane faster than she does. The thing about pantheon is you have to deal a lot of damage to them early. with the scaling buffs it's easier to keep the lead. For panth to succeed, you have to deprive the other guy of enough farm so that it's hard for them to get back in the game.

I just basically go stupidly aggressive with Pantheon starting lvl 1 and just maintain that lead. Every time they try to last hit just chuck spears at them and autoattack 'em. Dont' let them have free last hits ever.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
October 10 2011 13:55 GMT
#96
not having ignite vs. Irelia is a death sentence, you'll never be able to kill her, and frankly, if you don't kill Irelia, regardless of farm, she'll be able to stomp your shit come level 6.

you gotta just jump way way way far ahead in the early levels, so I just open dblade and deny her as hard as possible and make sure to back off when she backs off so that I don't get myself at an item disadvantage. if she opens ninja tabi though, you're kinda just fucked.
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InvaderUK
Profile Joined January 2011
225 Posts
October 15 2011 15:17 GMT
#97
How are people going about laning vs akali with panth at the moment?
patriarch of the church of howard. may maokai smile upon you.
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
October 15 2011 17:30 GMT
#98
On September 12 2011 09:49 dnastyx wrote:
Don't waste your mana.

Problem solved. (PS if you read through this thread you'll see people have asked that question about 50000000 times.)

And this is a stupid answer given that Panth's lane control is dependent on his ability to repeatedly spear the fuck out of someone.

The better answer is cast sparingly at levels 2 and 4 where the mana/damage efficiency is lower, but ramp it up during levels 3 and 5 to compensate.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
October 15 2011 19:36 GMT
#99
On October 16 2011 02:30 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2011 09:49 dnastyx wrote:
Don't waste your mana.

Problem solved. (PS if you read through this thread you'll see people have asked that question about 50000000 times.)

And this is a stupid answer given that Panth's lane control is dependent on his ability to repeatedly spear the fuck out of someone.

The better answer is cast sparingly at levels 2 and 4 where the mana/damage efficiency is lower, but ramp it up during levels 3 and 5 to compensate.

Eh...I like being really aggressive at lvl 4 'cause you can easily kill someone when you hit 4 if they're not careful. Agreed about lvl 2 tho.

Against Akali you just have to be careful. I think you should win trades at lvl 1-2 if you're autoattacking a bunch, but Akali starts to out-trade you by like...lvl 3 or smth.
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
October 16 2011 22:26 GMT
#100
Mogwai, I can say after trying your build, it's #1 Pantheon build. I never regretted a single BT
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