EPT[Champion] Pantheon - Page 3
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On August 30 2011 03:05 Southlight wrote: Most AP heroes and most ranged AD absolutely stomp Rumble. And Rumble doesn't really shine midlane, so you can force him to go mid and then he's usually pretty fucked. mmm, I disagree. That fucking speed boost shield + his retarded flamethrower damage let him eat most squishy ranged characters up in top lane in my experience. Teemo might beat him, but I'm not sure, you really need some strong early kiting and damage skills to put a dent in that fucker without just dying. | ||
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
Cait would also wreck him, not as sure about MF as you might need to consistently dodge/have him miss his harpoons. Edit: Also Nidalee takes a dump on him lol | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On August 30 2011 02:55 Mogwai wrote: pull the lane after he pushes it and call for ganks. it's not a good matchup, but he shouldn't really be able to harass you and cs at the same time really effectively. it's not like i have a hard time farming against him it's just that panth's strength is in laning kills and i can't kill him. farmed cho compared to evenly farmed panth favors cho unfortunately cause he can build pure tank and still do infinite damage. especially cho with teleport fuck that | ||
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Woony
Germany6657 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
e.g. you ding 6, manjump bot and score FB and a double kill. With that kind of start, you could probably start on your Warmog's and maybe fit a Brutalizer in somewhere so your AD stays relevant. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
if i'm behind then i build pure glass cannon AD | ||
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
On August 30 2011 05:56 Woony wrote: What about Atmogs panth? Trolly or does it have its niche? Just like the ppl before me wrote: it depends. I count Pantheon as an "AD caster" similar to e.g. Garen: sick early game damage / scaling. Abuse it or die trying. You will probably die trying if you can't tighten your advantage and keep up the hilarious damage output from early game. Observe how your lane is going. Do your spears still hurt a lot or do they only tickle the enemy? Can you risk to not have another chunk of AD while building Atmog's or not? Personally, in most of my games with Pantheon (and Garen) I feel the need for a medium AD follow up after D-Blade stacking (a simple B. F. Sword is usually enough with its +45 AD and grows into BT / IE later). But then you have to go Atmogs right after since it takes its time to get it and you probably plan on maxing out the bonus on Warmogs. | ||
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LoCicero
1100 Posts
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
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arthur
United Kingdom488 Posts
On August 30 2011 11:53 Mogwai wrote: really? is the spell vamp really worth it? No he is joking. On August 30 2011 06:07 gtrsrs wrote: i like atmogs if i've got a nice lead cause it prevents me from dying and furthers my lead if i'm behind then i build pure glass cannon AD Strange I, and I imagined most people would do this, is to build glass cannon from the go, and use my rediculous early game powers to dominate the shit and snowball into victory, or if i fail, to switch into atmogs, which scales a lot better into late game, and if the game makes it to lategame, i wont be a useless underfed glass cannon... | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
actually vamp works on a lot of physical dmg spells, i wouldnt be suprised if it worked on all 4 of his skills, plus you can always use the active on pretty much any champ, and the amount of pure regen you get is pretty insane, assuming you dont get incapacitated by cc. afaik, spellvamp only doesnt work on physicals that apply onhits, so ez and pirate q, and some other random exceptions i dont kno off the top of my head | ||
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arthur
United Kingdom488 Posts
On September 04 2011 08:28 barbsq wrote: actually vamp works on a lot of physical dmg spells, i wouldnt be suprised if it worked on all 4 of his skills, plus you can always use the active on pretty much any champ, and the amount of pure regen you get is pretty insane, assuming you dont get incapacitated by cc. afaik, spellvamp only doesnt work on physicals that apply onhits, so ez and pirate q, and some other random exceptions i dont kno off the top of my head are you trolling me? spellvamp works on physical spells? how could i not know that in 2000 games... | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On September 04 2011 08:42 arthur wrote: are you trolling me? spellvamp works on physical spells? how could i not know that in 2000 games... yes what bear said is true it works on physical spells | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On August 30 2011 11:53 Mogwai wrote: really? is the spell vamp really worth it? Gunblade pantheon is boss. You spellvamp off of all 4 spells and have a strong nuke that makes your ulti ganks much stronger. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
i personally just think spellvamp is kind of a dumb mechanic but maybe that's just me. | ||
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Shizuru~
Malaysia1676 Posts
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
1x WOTA 1x Revolver 3x BT | ||
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STS17
United States1817 Posts
On September 05 2011 07:07 Ryuu314 wrote: gunblade es #1 item. always vamp never not vamp i personally just think spellvamp is kind of a dumb mechanic but maybe that's just me. I agree, spell vamp is just a crappy mechanic. It's inherently hard to balance because of the insane amount of regeneration burst casters could get from it if they had too much or it's negligible in the amount of regeneration it provides. | ||
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