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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 29 2011 18:05 GMT
#41
Most AP heroes and most ranged AD absolutely stomp Rumble. And Rumble doesn't really shine midlane, so you can force him to go mid and then he's usually pretty fucked.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 29 2011 18:10 GMT
#42
On August 30 2011 03:05 Southlight wrote:
Most AP heroes and most ranged AD absolutely stomp Rumble. And Rumble doesn't really shine midlane, so you can force him to go mid and then he's usually pretty fucked.

mmm, I disagree. That fucking speed boost shield + his retarded flamethrower damage let him eat most squishy ranged characters up in top lane in my experience. Teemo might beat him, but I'm not sure, you really need some strong early kiting and damage skills to put a dent in that fucker without just dying.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 18:12:15
August 29 2011 18:11 GMT
#43
He would get roasted by Brand/Ori/Malz, not sure about Annie, etc.
Cait would also wreck him, not as sure about MF as you might need to consistently dodge/have him miss his harpoons.

Edit:
Also Nidalee takes a dump on him lol
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 29 2011 18:40 GMT
#44
On August 30 2011 02:55 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 00:56 gtrsrs wrote:
People are starting to counterpick my panth with cho
It's real fkdumb lane. If cho is dumb I can still get a kill before 6, but at 6 I have 0% chance to kill him. And if he's smart he can actually out-cs me while taking no net damage thanks to brokenly strong passive and infinite range aoe farm spells. What do?

pull the lane after he pushes it and call for ganks. it's not a good matchup, but he shouldn't really be able to harass you and cs at the same time really effectively.


it's not like i have a hard time farming against him it's just that panth's strength is in laning kills and i can't kill him. farmed cho compared to evenly farmed panth favors cho unfortunately cause he can build pure tank and still do infinite damage. especially cho with teleport fuck that
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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
August 29 2011 20:56 GMT
#45
What about Atmogs panth? Trolly or does it have its niche?
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 21:08:50
August 29 2011 21:06 GMT
#46
Atmog almost always has a niche. It's game dependent really. The combo requires insane farm so expect to be fairly weak (compared to the "standard" builds) until the Atmog's is finished.

e.g. you ding 6, manjump bot and score FB and a double kill. With that kind of start, you could probably start on your Warmog's and maybe fit a Brutalizer in somewhere so your AD stays relevant.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 29 2011 21:07 GMT
#47
i like atmogs if i've got a nice lead cause it prevents me from dying and furthers my lead
if i'm behind then i build pure glass cannon AD
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little fancy
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2504 Posts
August 29 2011 22:43 GMT
#48
On August 30 2011 05:56 Woony wrote:
What about Atmogs panth? Trolly or does it have its niche?



Just like the ppl before me wrote: it depends.

I count Pantheon as an "AD caster" similar to e.g. Garen: sick early game damage / scaling. Abuse it or die trying. You will probably die trying if you can't tighten your advantage and keep up the hilarious damage output from early game.

Observe how your lane is going. Do your spears still hurt a lot or do they only tickle the enemy? Can you risk to not have another chunk of AD while building Atmog's or not?

Personally, in most of my games with Pantheon (and Garen) I feel the need for a medium AD follow up after D-Blade stacking (a simple B. F. Sword is usually enough with its +45 AD and grows into BT / IE later).

But then you have to go Atmogs right after since it takes its time to get it and you probably plan on maxing out the bonus on Warmogs.


LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
August 30 2011 01:23 GMT
#49
Hextech Gunblade Panth is pretty interesting.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 30 2011 02:53 GMT
#50
really? is the spell vamp really worth it?
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arthur
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom488 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 23:27:20
September 03 2011 23:24 GMT
#51
On August 30 2011 11:53 Mogwai wrote:
really? is the spell vamp really worth it?


No he is joking.



On August 30 2011 06:07 gtrsrs wrote:
i like atmogs if i've got a nice lead cause it prevents me from dying and furthers my lead
if i'm behind then i build pure glass cannon AD



Strange I, and I imagined most people would do this, is to build glass cannon from the go, and use my rediculous early game powers to dominate the shit and snowball into victory, or if i fail, to switch into atmogs, which scales a lot better into late game, and if the game makes it to lategame, i wont be a useless underfed glass cannon...
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 03 2011 23:28 GMT
#52
On September 04 2011 08:24 arthur wrote:
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On August 30 2011 11:53 Mogwai wrote:
really? is the spell vamp really worth it?


No he is joking.


actually vamp works on a lot of physical dmg spells, i wouldnt be suprised if it worked on all 4 of his skills, plus you can always use the active on pretty much any champ, and the amount of pure regen you get is pretty insane, assuming you dont get incapacitated by cc.

afaik, spellvamp only doesnt work on physicals that apply onhits, so ez and pirate q, and some other random exceptions i dont kno off the top of my head
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arthur
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom488 Posts
September 03 2011 23:42 GMT
#53
On September 04 2011 08:28 barbsq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 08:24 arthur wrote:
On August 30 2011 11:53 Mogwai wrote:
really? is the spell vamp really worth it?


No he is joking.


actually vamp works on a lot of physical dmg spells, i wouldnt be suprised if it worked on all 4 of his skills, plus you can always use the active on pretty much any champ, and the amount of pure regen you get is pretty insane, assuming you dont get incapacitated by cc.

afaik, spellvamp only doesnt work on physicals that apply onhits, so ez and pirate q, and some other random exceptions i dont kno off the top of my head


are you trolling me?

spellvamp works on physical spells?


how could i not know that in 2000 games...
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StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
September 04 2011 00:08 GMT
#54
On September 04 2011 08:42 arthur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2011 08:28 barbsq wrote:
On September 04 2011 08:24 arthur wrote:
On August 30 2011 11:53 Mogwai wrote:
really? is the spell vamp really worth it?


No he is joking.


actually vamp works on a lot of physical dmg spells, i wouldnt be suprised if it worked on all 4 of his skills, plus you can always use the active on pretty much any champ, and the amount of pure regen you get is pretty insane, assuming you dont get incapacitated by cc.

afaik, spellvamp only doesnt work on physicals that apply onhits, so ez and pirate q, and some other random exceptions i dont kno off the top of my head


are you trolling me?

spellvamp works on physical spells?


how could i not know that in 2000 games...

yes what bear said is true it works on physical spells
You can't milk those!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 04 2011 00:31 GMT
#55
On August 30 2011 11:53 Mogwai wrote:
really? is the spell vamp really worth it?

Gunblade pantheon is boss. You spellvamp off of all 4 spells and have a strong nuke that makes your ulti ganks much stronger.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
September 04 2011 20:25 GMT
#56
I will try gunblade pantheon in a game tonight hopefully will report back with thoughts
FADC
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 04 2011 22:07 GMT
#57
gunblade es #1 item. always vamp never not vamp

i personally just think spellvamp is kind of a dumb mechanic but maybe that's just me.
Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
September 04 2011 22:57 GMT
#58
so should we stack gunblade instead of BT now? or have a combination of both?
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
September 05 2011 03:10 GMT
#59
1x Gunblade
1x WOTA
1x Revolver
3x BT
FADC
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
September 05 2011 03:21 GMT
#60
On September 05 2011 07:07 Ryuu314 wrote:
gunblade es #1 item. always vamp never not vamp

i personally just think spellvamp is kind of a dumb mechanic but maybe that's just me.


I agree, spell vamp is just a crappy mechanic. It's inherently hard to balance because of the insane amount of regeneration burst casters could get from it if they had too much or it's negligible in the amount of regeneration it provides.
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