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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 05:37:19
September 05 2011 05:36 GMT
#61
On September 05 2011 12:21 STS17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 07:07 Ryuu314 wrote:
gunblade es #1 item. always vamp never not vamp

i personally just think spellvamp is kind of a dumb mechanic but maybe that's just me.


I agree, spell vamp is just a crappy mechanic. It's inherently hard to balance because of the insane amount of regeneration burst casters could get from it if they had too much or it's negligible in the amount of regeneration it provides.


This is kind of mitigated by the fact that spells have cooldowns AND if you play 100% ideally you shouldn't be taking any damage. (Other than Morde, Vlad, and Swain)

EDIT: Also the big damage bursts usually come at beginning of the fight where casters should have close to full HP
FADC
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
September 05 2011 06:23 GMT
#62
People always think I'm trolling with gunblade mantheon.

Even after they die.
Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
September 05 2011 07:05 GMT
#63
On September 05 2011 15:23 Lanzoma wrote:
People always think I'm trolling with gunblade mantheon.

Even after they die.

Honestly, gunblade pantheon is the only way to play him IMO. He can't afford to itemize defensively and the vamp allows him to stay in fights.
(-_(-_(-_(^_(-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-) CJ Fighting! "Beer -> soju -> whisky is a terrible build"~~ Scrarecrow.
arthur
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom488 Posts
September 06 2011 01:14 GMT
#64
On September 05 2011 15:23 Lanzoma wrote:
People always think I'm trolling with gunblade mantheon.

Even after they die.


I tested it today in a normal..

I forced morde to go support lower, so I could top...

Even when i was 11-1-4, morde was going


"report pantheon troll noob 2 hextechs wtf"

"omg third hextech wtf troll report noob"

"game is lost i dont care"

"we lose cos of you" (we were winning/we won/who cares lol)

etc etc
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 01:39:04
September 06 2011 01:38 GMT
#65
On September 06 2011 10:14 arthur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2011 15:23 Lanzoma wrote:
People always think I'm trolling with gunblade mantheon.

Even after they die.


I tested it today in a normal..

I forced morde to go support lower, so I could top...

Even when i was 11-1-4, morde was going


"report pantheon troll noob 2 hextechs wtf"

"omg third hextech wtf troll report noob"

"game is lost i dont care"

"we lose cos of you" (we were winning/we won/who cares lol)

etc etc

Well, more than one gunblade is pretty trolly >.>

2 Dblades+Gunblade+BT+LW imo. Maybe a GA so you don't insta-die.

Altho I gotta say, the stats on Gunblade are so damn efficient it's almost imba imo. U can just stack pure gunblades and still get a shitload of AD/AP.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
September 06 2011 01:56 GMT
#66
Gunblade on one of the highest AD scaling dudes on the game.. who woulda thunk it?

but can somebody try to explain why you would even get this item for Panth? does it make him tanky from spellvamp?
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 06 2011 02:25 GMT
#67
On September 06 2011 10:56 broz0rs wrote:
Gunblade on one of the highest AD scaling dudes on the game.. who woulda thunk it?

but can somebody try to explain why you would even get this item for Panth? does it make him tanky from spellvamp?

I've never done it, but my guess is that the insane vamp you get from it will let you stay in fights a little longer.

You'd still die easily to concentrated burst but otherwise you have more sustain. It's kinda like why you would sometimes get BT on range AD. So you have some form of heal in fights.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
September 06 2011 02:27 GMT
#68
Gunblade active is really nice for Panth too.
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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 06 2011 04:49 GMT
#69
On September 06 2011 11:27 crate wrote:
Gunblade active is really nice for Panth too.


god, i just love gunblade active, i just cant ever get over how awesome it is
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
September 06 2011 06:26 GMT
#70
On September 06 2011 11:25 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 10:56 broz0rs wrote:
Gunblade on one of the highest AD scaling dudes on the game.. who woulda thunk it?

but can somebody try to explain why you would even get this item for Panth? does it make him tanky from spellvamp?

I've never done it, but my guess is that the insane vamp you get from it will let you stay in fights a little longer.

You'd still die easily to concentrated burst but otherwise you have more sustain. It's kinda like why you would sometimes get BT on range AD. So you have some form of heal in fights.

This is basically it.
(-_(-_(-_(^_(-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-) CJ Fighting! "Beer -> soju -> whisky is a terrible build"~~ Scrarecrow.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 06 2011 15:17 GMT
#71
best way to build gunblade on pantheon is double bdlade -> brutalizer -> cutlass -> BT -> gunblade IMO. Cutlass active is somewhat cute after your W. I like it for nubstomping, but I'm not sure I'd ever use it at my real elo.
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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
September 06 2011 15:40 GMT
#72
On September 07 2011 00:17 Mogwai wrote:
best way to build gunblade on pantheon is double bdlade -> brutalizer -> cutlass -> BT -> gunblade IMO. Cutlass active is somewhat cute after your W. I like it for nubstomping, but I'm not sure I'd ever use it at my real elo.


Is the damage loss from going revolver instead of cutlass first too much for the survivability gains from the vamp? Or is the lifesteal on your auto-attacks enough at that point in the game?
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 06 2011 15:43 GMT
#73
well, it's not like you spam your shit in lane. you spam auto-attacks on creeps with less than 15% HP, meaning you get to lifesteal auto-crits, meaning lifesteal is way the fuck better for lane sustainability. Spell vamp is mostly just useful later on in teamfights and stuff. Also, Cutlass gives you an active that's useful, and as you already noted, gives way better damage.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
arthur
Profile Joined April 2009
United Kingdom488 Posts
September 06 2011 19:54 GMT
#74
On September 06 2011 10:38 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 10:14 arthur wrote:
On September 05 2011 15:23 Lanzoma wrote:
People always think I'm trolling with gunblade mantheon.

Even after they die.


I tested it today in a normal..

I forced morde to go support lower, so I could top...

Even when i was 11-1-4, morde was going


"report pantheon troll noob 2 hextechs wtf"

"omg third hextech wtf troll report noob"

"game is lost i dont care"

"we lose cos of you" (we were winning/we won/who cares lol)

etc etc

Well, more than one gunblade is pretty trolly >.>

2 Dblades+Gunblade+BT+LW imo. Maybe a GA so you don't insta-die.

Altho I gotta say, the stats on Gunblade are so damn efficient it's almost imba imo. U can just stack pure gunblades and still get a shitload of AD/AP.


Pantheon is trolly.

And don't ">.>" me... If multiple gunblades = carry + win its not ">.>" its "^_^ :D !! h4x :3"
youtube.com/f1337
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 05:55:07
September 07 2011 05:54 GMT
#75
On September 07 2011 04:54 arthur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 10:38 Ryuu314 wrote:
On September 06 2011 10:14 arthur wrote:
On September 05 2011 15:23 Lanzoma wrote:
People always think I'm trolling with gunblade mantheon.

Even after they die.


I tested it today in a normal..

I forced morde to go support lower, so I could top...

Even when i was 11-1-4, morde was going


"report pantheon troll noob 2 hextechs wtf"

"omg third hextech wtf troll report noob"

"game is lost i dont care"

"we lose cos of you" (we were winning/we won/who cares lol)

etc etc

Well, more than one gunblade is pretty trolly >.>

2 Dblades+Gunblade+BT+LW imo. Maybe a GA so you don't insta-die.

Altho I gotta say, the stats on Gunblade are so damn efficient it's almost imba imo. U can just stack pure gunblades and still get a shitload of AD/AP.


Pantheon is trolly.

And don't ">.>" me... If multiple gunblades = carry + win its not ">.>" its "^_^ :D !! h4x :3"

That's true. Funnily enough I've had more success stacking gunblades on Tryn than I do building him more traditionally lol

I suppose this could carry over to Panth
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
September 08 2011 05:28 GMT
#76
vamp (spell and lifesteal) easily one of the most underrated stats. which is kinda funny kus it was one of the most overrated by pugs in DotA, which is why it was my kneejerk reaction to kinda underrate it in this game too.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 08 2011 07:19 GMT
#77
On September 08 2011 14:28 barbsq wrote:
vamp (spell and lifesteal) easily one of the most underrated stats. which is kinda funny kus it was one of the most overrated by pugs in DotA, which is why it was my kneejerk reaction to kinda underrate it in this game too.

Well the thing is, in LoL, lifesteal stacks while in DotA it doesn't and acts as an orb effect (usually) which limits your itemization options.

Which is why stacking shit like gunblade is so damn lulzy cause you get hilarious levels of vamp after a couple items.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
September 08 2011 10:25 GMT
#78
On September 08 2011 16:19 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 14:28 barbsq wrote:
vamp (spell and lifesteal) easily one of the most underrated stats. which is kinda funny kus it was one of the most overrated by pugs in DotA, which is why it was my kneejerk reaction to kinda underrate it in this game too.

Well the thing is, in LoL, lifesteal stacks while in DotA it doesn't and acts as an orb effect (usually) which limits your itemization options.

Which is why stacking shit like gunblade is so damn lulzy cause you get hilarious levels of vamp after a couple items.


Everything stated is true, but you forgot to mention the cost of lifesteal and the lack of stat diversity on lifesteal items.

Most of the items were "tanky" items. (The only exception is mask of madness which is a deathwish on most non-tanks but can be considered a DPS item)
FADC
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
September 08 2011 15:13 GMT
#79
Mask of Madness was jawesome. I fucking loved charging across the whole map with Spirit Breaker to isolate 1 jerk freefarming, activate Mask and then stunlock rape them.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
kazie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
258 Posts
September 08 2011 17:58 GMT
#80
gunblade panth is a troll build lol
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