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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
August 24 2011 01:57 GMT
#21
Yeah that makes much more sense to me than what jiji did.
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 24 2011 02:54 GMT
#22
jiji played like ass cause he didn't auto attack and spear at the same time and instead just speared and wasted mana. his boots amounted to nothing because they you know... didn't do anything for him. but Irelia sucked and also didn't open cloth + 5, so it works out to look imba anyway, but seriously, that clip is awful.

in other words, numbers is right.

also slayer is right in how irelia should spec vs. Pantheon, it's impossible to win when irelia does that, but pretty much everyone is a fknoob so you get away with beating nasus and irelia and mordekaisers all the time because people are too stubborn to sacrifice their crappy default spec for a pure counter-Pantheon spec.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 24 2011 07:12 GMT
#23
I DID D-BLADE AGAINST SINGED AND RAPED
now going against pirate and i'm scared
NEED MY BOOTS TO FEEL SAFE
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LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
August 24 2011 10:07 GMT
#24
I actually like running full flat mana regen yellows and blues on Panth for more Q time early. I think it has good synergy with the dblade opening as it allows for more Q spam and ultimately a kill before their pots take effect imo (or just hard zoning).
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 11:24:43
August 24 2011 11:24 GMT
#25
Rumble vs Panth not very fun... I could get kills on him, but only because he was an idiot and kept trying to dive me at the tower, but otherwise, even with boots there's really not that much you can do to avoid damage and stay in lane at the same time.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 24 2011 15:20 GMT
#26
On August 24 2011 20:24 jtype wrote:
Rumble vs Panth not very fun... I could get kills on him, but only because he was an idiot and kept trying to dive me at the tower, but otherwise, even with boots there's really not that much you can do to avoid damage and stay in lane at the same time.

oh yea, that matchup is 100% impossible. his shield needs a higher fucking CD, that thing is such bullshit. you still have lane dominance for like, the first couple levels, but around level 4 it starts getting completely impossible.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 25 2011 18:01 GMT
#27
On August 24 2011 19:07 LoCicero wrote:
I actually like running full flat mana regen yellows and blues on Panth for more Q time early. I think it has good synergy with the dblade opening as it allows for more Q spam and ultimately a kill before their pots take effect imo (or just hard zoning).

I tried this and don't like it terribly much tbh, but I do notice more spears, so it has its merits.
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Th0R
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada359 Posts
August 26 2011 05:54 GMT
#28
I rather get the meki pendant opening into tears of goddess and then get my boots. Just because Pantheon has so much trouble with early game mana, and minion kills is so needed in early game. I also don't like stacking bloodthirster's. Maybe 1 after my last whisper and Infinity edge
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
August 26 2011 06:11 GMT
#29
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 26 2011 06:21 GMT
#30
On August 24 2011 11:54 Mogwai wrote:
but Irelia sucked and also didn't open cloth + 5


I never open cloth + 5
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 27 2011 04:21 GMT
#31
On August 26 2011 15:21 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 11:54 Mogwai wrote:
but Irelia sucked and also didn't open cloth + 5


I never open cloth + 5

well, you spec like 40 Armor from your runepage, so w/e. on a standard spec, knowing you're laning vs. Pantheon, cloth + 5 is the way to hard counter him.
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
August 27 2011 04:52 GMT
#32
On August 27 2011 13:21 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2011 15:21 Southlight wrote:
On August 24 2011 11:54 Mogwai wrote:
but Irelia sucked and also didn't open cloth + 5


I never open cloth + 5

well, you spec like 40 Armor from your runepage, so w/e. on a standard spec, knowing you're laning vs. Pantheon, cloth + 5 is the way to hard counter him.


"Hardcounter" sounds so mean.

What should I do if I'm panth and they are assholes and start cloth+5? Can't just bend over and take it, being a spartan and all.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 27 2011 05:11 GMT
#33
get a 10-15 cs advantage and deal with it. or get ganks, you can rape them still with ganks, cloth + 5 is more about grinding down Pantheon's mana pool and outlasting him than beating him, so when you have a gank that presents an immediate threat of death, they're in trouble.
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Ym1r
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1164 Posts
August 27 2011 05:51 GMT
#34
Don't underestimate the boots + 3 pots start, it gives a massive mobility boost over the non-boots Irelia, giving him the ability to poke easily without the irelia being able to effectively trade blows. She was already losing the lane by taking those summoners, and she knew pantheon would be dishing out that much damage, so she tried to stay back getting the only CS she could. If Udyr ganked then maybe it would have turned out a lot different. This is the result of taking Teleport instead of Exhaust or Ignite.
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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 27 2011 15:56 GMT
#35
People are starting to counterpick my panth with cho
It's real fkdumb lane. If cho is dumb I can still get a kill before 6, but at 6 I have 0% chance to kill him. And if he's smart he can actually out-cs me while taking no net damage thanks to brokenly strong passive and infinite range aoe farm spells. What do?
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freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
August 27 2011 17:23 GMT
#36
I just watched colbycheese's panth guide and it was kinda weird

he goes full apen marks+quints, armor yellows, and a mix of flat and scaling mres blues

21/6/3 (death timer) masteries

he starts with boots, then ghostblade -> berzerkers -> frozen mallet -> atmas / banshee's / quicksilver

I test this out, but it's quiet weird
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Morphx2
Profile Joined March 2011
147 Posts
August 27 2011 18:01 GMT
#37
it works. i went 3-0
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 29 2011 17:55 GMT
#38
On August 28 2011 00:56 gtrsrs wrote:
People are starting to counterpick my panth with cho
It's real fkdumb lane. If cho is dumb I can still get a kill before 6, but at 6 I have 0% chance to kill him. And if he's smart he can actually out-cs me while taking no net damage thanks to brokenly strong passive and infinite range aoe farm spells. What do?

pull the lane after he pushes it and call for ganks. it's not a good matchup, but he shouldn't really be able to harass you and cs at the same time really effectively.
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0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
August 29 2011 17:59 GMT
#39
Who beats Rumble solo top. Seems almost impossible to beat him with most solo tops.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 29 2011 18:00 GMT
#40
Warwick, probably udyr. He gets trumped by the real stupid sustainability guys, but seems to rape everyone else. I hate that fucking character so much.
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