EPT[Champion] Nasus - Page 17
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
he can roam well sure but zed can do that anyway, zed is pretty bullshit in that he can easily farm well defensively and push hard and roam offensively but nasus is automatically stronger if you pick zed because he excels against squishy melees in teamfights and zed's teamfighting falls off and he relies on split pushing, but nasus can counter it with TP. I wonder if zed with LW/BC/Botrk would be able to burst down a nasus really fast, the thing is his W and R make him deceptively tanky. Nasus might have to get warmogs instead of spirit visage after his armour item. (or maybe qss i guess) Darius is really strong against any melee, I think nasus is well equipped to turtle aginst him, darius probably wins eaisly 1v1 but darius is such an easy gank target because he always pushes and has no escape or innate tankiness. Wukong doesnt seem like a great idea, he gets stomped by irelia and nasus is even stronger 1v1, and has no sustain for trades. I don't fancy his all in potential either since its about enough to burst down a squishy champion but doesnt have much after that. Overall the best thing is to pick ranged champs because they are stronger vs him in teamfights. | ||
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
On September 11 2013 01:03 zer0das wrote: Wukong can work pretty reasonably. I don't consider Vlad a counterpick. Yes, Vlad is annoying as hell, but Nasus is better equipped to deal with his BS than most top laners thanks to his sustain and desire to stack resists. Vlad's weak early, so it's not like he even really takes advantage of when Nasus is really weak. Wither also makes the distance troll pool covers quite short, which makes it quite easy to gank for Nasus. Worst case scenario as Nasus tends to be your tower drops first, which makes killing Vlad a lot easier. Fringe worst case is your jungler forces 2v2s off of your tower when you're not strong enough yet, which is the only situation I feel like Vlad has an advantage. You're going to run out of mana on Swain before you even get close to killing Nasus. If you have blue buff the entire game, it might work. I haven't had problems with a Pantheon in ages. Renekton can do well early, but actually securing kills can be difficult- I hate seeing Nasus top when I pick Renekton because their jungler is always sitting there so I can't finish him off, while my jungler is off having tea. I generally rush icebourne gauntlet, but depending on the team comps, I might make a FH. vlad weak early but nasus cant do shit so he is very freely to harass. Just after my post i played against vlad top as nasus (lol karma) and he picked a kill on me before lvl 6 ( (i was dumb entirely my fault) and came back with revolver, i had to max spirit fire but at lvl 9 with just my negatron cloak and a ruby Crystal i all-in him and got the kill then he couldn't do shit because i had ghost (short CD) and he had flash (long CD) and i just all in him whenever i could. You just have to go balls deep, u cant out sustain a vlad. I dont talk about the presence of the jungler here. In my game we were on a island. | ||
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
Bruiser nidalee can be a problem like kennen also at early levels poke poke and poke | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Misconception I carried through from when I only played Pantheon, saw Nasus regularly (like mid S1), and was (who am I kidding, I still am) an awful baddy. <3 I apologize for misinforming the masses. | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
I often die early because the jungler usually camps me since Nasus is weak early but np since I just teleport immediately.. But once he's farmed, god such a beast, being able to tank a whole team and 2 shot their carry.. Such a great feeling  | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
jungler camp shouldn't really be a problem if you're playing properly you should almost never push past the half way line in your lane until like 6. Getting dived is a real concern though, so the key is to make sure you stay full hp, a few early creeps isnt worth 150-200 hp i mean about the pantheon thing, i used to think riven raped nasus, renek raped nasus garen raped nasus etc, but when i started playing properly none of those were problems at all, similar story with panth, even if you rush LW and shit nasus does so much damage if you didnt snowball you still won't be able to 1v1 because of how much hp/damage he has (hardto burst him down and cant win in sustained damage war because of his W) nasus was buffed quite a lot. His lvl 5 Q got its mana cost reduced by half, his ult costs 50 less mana, and gives him more attack range, but his w attack speed slow got nerfed by half, which is a big nerf but not that huge a deal for his laning phase. Then you have the mastery and item changes making dorans shield, glacial shroud cheaper, spirit visage buff, introduction of iceborn gauntlet. Nerfs to thinngs liek top lane udyr elise rumble etc | ||
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Fyrewolf
United States1533 Posts
I definitely still go glacial shroud>fh/iceborne with the first chainmail, or spirit visage vs ap. I haven't tried the new trinity force yet on him, just been sticking to my standard stuff. Has anyone had any success with it? Obviously not as a first item I mean, the changes are just intriguing and I'm wondering how well it actually plays out. | ||
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Amui
Canada10567 Posts
New triforce is really nice, but it's a luxury item. I mean it's nice being like a +400 triforce nasus who can 2 shot a squishy with ultimate&spirit fire up, but I'd take becoming invincible over being able to oneshot every creep in the game. I think Singed is a good matchup for nasus. Singed pretty much will always push the lane, proxying doesn't hurt you too much, and you can rush SV in this matchup. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
he is like kennen but kennen has a skillshot and teemo a point clik harass. Against singed its a farm lane, singed might be proxiing but it's at your advantage cause you will getting the same amount of farm but with your Q, it's really good Some are very aggressive at the start but it falls off drastically when you get spirit visage. After some farming with your Q u can kill him he cant kill you | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
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trollbone
France1905 Posts
the renek matchup is ok, you're going to be a little down in farm comparable to him but after a certain point you can't kill each other so just farm | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
On September 12 2013 04:32 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Teemo just rushes BotRK and what do you do? just farm like usual? Laning phase is pretty much over by the time he has that and boots anyway, you probably wont be laning against him anymore, just farming lanes when they push and sticking with the team or w/e | ||
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