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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 20 2012 10:16 GMT
#241
On June 30 2012 07:39 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2012 05:47 spinesheath wrote:
Glacial Shroud/Frozen Heart doesn't count as a real option for you? 15%/20% CDR is nothing to laugh at damage wise.

CDR doesn't do a ton for your damage output in a fight. you get 1 ult off and your W doesn't care about CDR so it only really helps Q and E (and E is tricky because using it can blown a chase because of how long the animation is). You also end up spending 2.8+K on no magic resist or HP, which puts you in an odd spot as far as your next item is concerned. FH -> Abyssal leaves your HP pool low enough that even with the MRes, you can get blown up too quickly IMO.

Yeah it's absurd how tanky you get with the hp from sunfire now that amumu has mr gains lol
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 20 2012 21:47 GMT
#242
On August 20 2012 18:35 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
0/21/9
Flat AP/mpen/armor/scaling AP
boots + 3 start
smite/flash

wolves -> blue -> gank if you're bottom team
wolves -> blue -> wraiths -> wolves -> red -> wraiths if you're top

EQE or EWEQ depending then max Q

boots -> philo -> 2x dolan's ring -> sunfire -> abyssal

is what i'm doing right now, it's really strong


Pretty much the same. However, I've gone away from boots +3 if I'm top and shifted back to cloth +5 or regrowth +1. I feel my HP dipping too low w/ boots +3 while spending that much time in the jungle. Granted, a really good leash at blue can alleviate these problems - that's always a crapshoot depending upon a really good leash and not just a couple of autos though.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 20 2012 22:56 GMT
#243
if you get caught in the jungle without boots youre dead
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 20 2012 22:59 GMT
#244
Not sold on Philo + 2DRing vs. Shurelya's.

Shurelya's - 2200 gold, 1 item slot for:
330 HP
30 HP5
15 MP5
15% CDR
Shurelya's active

vs.

Philo + 2xDRing - 1750 gold, 3 item slots for:
160 HP
15 HP5
18 MP5
30 AP
5 gp10

The extra AP doesn't feel like it's worth giving up the early ult CDR (which actually matters quite a bit on the lower ult ranks), the Ruby Crystal's worth of extra HP, and the vastly superior positioning power due to having Shurelya's active relatively early.
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
August 20 2012 23:13 GMT
#245
On August 21 2012 07:56 zulu_nation8 wrote:
if you get caught in the jungle without boots youre dead


If you get caught at 1/3 hp with boots you're probably dead anyway too. Amumu isn't much of an early game duelist so most invades will always threaten him regardless of opening items.
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 20 2012 23:43 GMT
#246
well you shouldnt be low with 3 pots, and boots does make a difference when youre running away
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
August 21 2012 03:50 GMT
#247
On August 21 2012 07:59 TheYango wrote:
Not sold on Philo + 2DRing vs. Shurelya's.

Shurelya's - 2200 gold, 1 item slot for:
330 HP
30 HP5
15 MP5
15% CDR
Shurelya's active

vs.

Philo + 2xDRing - 1750 gold, 3 item slots for:
160 HP
15 HP5
18 MP5
30 AP
5 gp10

The extra AP doesn't feel like it's worth giving up the early ult CDR (which actually matters quite a bit on the lower ult ranks), the Ruby Crystal's worth of extra HP, and the vastly superior positioning power due to having Shurelya's active relatively early.


Yeah I'd go for shurelya's too. The active is just so good.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 21 2012 03:55 GMT
#248
Hmm... I'll try it out. I like holding the philo stone because if I'm not getting it for the gold/10 then I'd rather get drings to make my ganks stronger. That AP bonus is nothing to scoff at in early level ganks and I usually delay Shurelya's for Sunfire and sometimes Abyssal in the build anyway.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
August 21 2012 05:29 GMT
#249
On August 21 2012 08:13 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2012 07:56 zulu_nation8 wrote:
if you get caught in the jungle without boots youre dead


If you get caught at 1/3 hp with boots you're probably dead anyway too. Amumu isn't much of an early game duelist so most invades will always threaten him regardless of opening items.


If you get caught at any HP you are probably dead. Amumu pretty much can't win 1v1 against any other jungler... Just pray that you won't get counterjungled and ping like crazy when you do.
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Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
October 11 2012 20:31 GMT
#250
Here you go, dumping my Amumu knowledge right here:
Runes are I think clearly
Mspeed Quints, Armor reds, Armor yellows, undecided blues (MR18/flat AP/flat CDR all seem viable)
masteries 0/21/9 are the best imo for obvious reasons.
Start boots+3 (obviously), go for philostone asap. Blue buff start is idea, Red buff start is doable and viable if you are blue side and want to countergank toplane.
Level3 gank very powerful in both sidelanes and middle lane, either throw bandage first to waste flash, or if enemy is pushed out come close and bandage after they flash.
After that play mostly farmy until you get lvl 6, then camp bottom all day. Amumu is pretty good at doing dragon so if you get a kill bottom when you are lvl 7 or so go for it np.
Itembuild Defensive boots2, Philo, (HoG maybe/maybe not), Aegis, Shurelyas, then situationally defensive items.
Wasting money on oracles is usually not worth it, you have no escape skills and just bandage in all day.
Play the farm-when-ult-on-CD, gank-when-ult-up style kinda like Skarner, it's pretty similiar.
lategame you either initiate or counterinitiate, it is your call to protect your carry or dive the enemy. Depends on teamcomp.

Not confident for a full on guide yet but eventually I will write it.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 12 2012 02:51 GMT
#251
I disagree with the runes, I've been advised by diamond players to run flat ap quints, mpen reds, armor yellows, and scaling ap blues

Other than that, pretty standard, I feel like sunfire and abyssal are really just way stronger on amumu than Shurelya's but I think that's just personal bias

I like go EQEWQR R>Q>E>W depending on how well your ganks are working, camp top/mid til 6 then go bot with ult on cd and for dragon fights
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
October 12 2012 22:30 GMT
#252
I actually almost completely ignore tantrum when jungling. While it's faster than cry mode and keeps you healthier, it also destroys your mana pool, making jungling without blue really slow. W also makes dragon go super quickly.
In fact, the only time I level tantrum before 8 is in lane.

I typically build either glacial, aegis, or shurelia first, depending on what I'm feeling like.
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lodeet
Profile Joined September 2011
United States147 Posts
October 13 2012 20:10 GMT
#253
On October 13 2012 07:30 Tooplark wrote:
I actually almost completely ignore tantrum when jungling. While it's faster than cry mode and keeps you healthier, it also destroys your mana pool, making jungling without blue really slow. W also makes dragon go super quickly.
In fact, the only time I level tantrum before 8 is in lane.

I typically build either glacial, aegis, or shurelia first, depending on what I'm feeling like.


Yikes I don't have mana issues with mumu.

I run hp quint / flat armor / flat mr / flat mpen. I wanna get flat ap quints but i need more ip.

Getting boots + 3 pots starting with W at wolves then blue wraiths wolves red wraiths.

I skill either WEEQ or WEQE then max Q-E-W.

After getting my phlio and hitting 6 I spend enough time lane hoping that I keep a good mana pool even without blue. I don't waste time on 2 golems unless I have smite. Just bounce between wraiths and wolves.

Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12026 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 18:18:23
October 14 2012 17:41 GMT
#254
I have been experimenting a bit now, and i really like getting 2 dorans instead of a philo atm. It turns you from a wuss that has to run from everyone into someone that can actually fight others. At the moment i build 2 dorans, aegis, and then sunfire or abyssal. Am i insane, or does that actually make sense?
Vaporized
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-14 17:51:57
October 14 2012 17:50 GMT
#255
On October 15 2012 02:41 Simberto wrote:
I have been experimenting a bit now, and i really like getting 2 dorans instead of a philo atm. It turns you from a wuss that has to run from everyone into someone that can actually fight others. At the moment i build 2 dorans, aegis, and then sunfire or abyssal. Am i insane, or does that actually make sense?

2x dorans has been built on mumu for literally months. look up azingy's mumu build.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12026 Posts
October 15 2012 13:02 GMT
#256
Problem is, i am getting flamed now every time we lose the game. Apparently we lost because i had no gp10 items. Not because irelia lost top so hard that i couldn't set a foot into my top jungle without dying, and then ran around and snowballed all other lanes. No, my double dorans lost us the game.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 15 2012 13:18 GMT
#257
On October 15 2012 22:02 Simberto wrote:
Problem is, i am getting flamed now every time we lose the game. Apparently we lost because i had no gp10 items. Not because irelia lost top so hard that i couldn't set a foot into my top jungle without dying, and then ran around and snowballed all other lanes. No, my double dorans lost us the game.

You have to live with that. Back when I used to carry with Ghostblade + Brutalizer Ashe I got flamed all the time, even when I had scores like 10-0.

I have tried going Doran's instead of Philo a while ago, before the recent changes to Amumu, and wasn't satisfied at all. I guess it's better now because of the buff on E's manacost?
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
October 15 2012 13:37 GMT
#258
not even azingy stack rings anymore, the way to play amumu, like with every jungler is to tax your lanes more than they can tax you.
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
October 15 2012 13:39 GMT
#259
On October 15 2012 22:37 zulu_nation8 wrote:
not even azingy stack rings anymore, the way to play amumu, like with every jungler is to tax your lanes more than they can tax you.

That should go without saying, especially for Amumu. Too good when farmed.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12026 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-15 14:38:29
October 15 2012 14:38 GMT
#260
On October 15 2012 22:18 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2012 22:02 Simberto wrote:
Problem is, i am getting flamed now every time we lose the game. Apparently we lost because i had no gp10 items. Not because irelia lost top so hard that i couldn't set a foot into my top jungle without dying, and then ran around and snowballed all other lanes. No, my double dorans lost us the game.

You have to live with that. Back when I used to carry with Ghostblade + Brutalizer Ashe I got flamed all the time, even when I had scores like 10-0.

I have tried going Doran's instead of Philo a while ago, before the recent changes to Amumu, and wasn't satisfied at all. I guess it's better now because of the buff on E's manacost?


The main problem i have with philo is that it very often means that you cant fight 2v2 with the enemy jungler, which is really annoying in any countergank situation.

Also 2 dorans are more manareg then a philo.
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