Thats also the problem with jungling/ganking. His ganking is very subpar because all his power comes from his fury procs, which he really doesnt have time to build up to gank. He'd have to run straight to a gank from a jungle creep of which he didnt use any skills on so he'd save fury.

rigwarl

United States540 Posts

February 16 2011 06:49 GMT

#27

On February 09 2011 13:42 Exadra wrote:
He'd have to run straight to a gank from a jungle creep of which he didnt use any skills on so he'd save fury.

Duh? that's what you do...

Morphx2

147 Posts

March 24 2011 02:27 GMT

#28

So I bought this champ and wondering what the current good build to go with him? Most likely tanky dps I suspect, but not sure on what items to choose. Also, R>E>Q=W?

UniversalSnip

9871 Posts

March 24 2011 02:36 GMT

#29

I just go ghostblade into tank items. You could buy sunfire in which case you would skip the bruta upgrade since there's a limited amount of money you can spend on damage

solo lane mandatory

R > Q > E > W

you have this disgusting harass combo in lane where you E, W, E backwards that crushes some matchups, if you get one of them take E at one and W at two. otherwise powerlevel Q

this hero is extremely high skill, I mean you can just faceroll with him since he's blatantly op but he's almost like a dota hero in terms of the advantages you can squeeze out with superior play

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

March 24 2011 03:55 GMT

#30

Boots + 3 hp pots => Brutalizer => Merc Treads => Sunfire => Ghostblade => FoN => Black Cleaver => LW

WQQEQR, R > Q > W > E

Juicyfruit

Canada5484 Posts

March 24 2011 04:40 GMT

#31

W over E u sure?

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

March 24 2011 05:22 GMT

#32

On March 24 2011 13:40 Juicyfruit wrote:
W over E u sure?

Why not? I usually use E for mobility reasons. I don't always land E on the enemy, even with full S&D. W scales better anyways (W:1.5, E:0.6).

Morphx2

147 Posts

March 24 2011 13:26 GMT

#33

It might scale better, but dont you want to level E faster so you can do your full combo more?

I tried items from this guide on leaguecraft (not in order): Ionian boots, Shurilies Reverie, Ghostblade, Radiuns, and then the game ended. It seemed "ok". I had good defense and health regen and great movespeed, but my damage output seemed a little low.

phyvo

United States5635 Posts

March 24 2011 13:40 GMT

#34

Uh, W may scale better with AD but E scales better with skill points, which is what you're actually spending. All you get leveling W is 20 damage and -1 sec CD, with E you get 30 damage and -2 seconds off your CD even with just one hit.

Moreover, you really shouldn't have trouble hitting them twice with E since if you're right next to them you can even E backwards and still hit.

In addition the lower E cooldown is more useful for harassment cycles unless they're letting you Q/W them every time those are off cooldown without any dash at all.

Reverie is a bad item on Renek, don't go by leaguecraft guides and just go by stuff people have posted here in the thread, the only item I think people have mentioned here which might be more meh on Renekton compared to when he started would be spirit visage.

spinesheath

Germany8679 Posts

March 24 2011 13:41 GMT

#35

On March 24 2011 14:22 NeoIllusions wrote:

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Why not? I usually use E for mobility reasons. I don't always land E on the enemy, even with full S&D. W scales better anyways (W:1.5, E:0.6).

Better AD/AP scaling (alone) is no reason to level a skill. You get the same scaling on all skill ranks, you deal the same bonus damage. The base damage (and cooldowns etc) is what you should look at when you decide what to max.
W gains 20/30 (with fury) damage per rank and 1 sec lower cooldown.
E gains 30/45 (dice with fury) damage per rank, 2 sec lower cooldown and 2.5% more armor reduction.

emucxg

Finland4559 Posts

March 24 2011 15:10 GMT

#36

I tried him, he is awful at CS
I wonder how ppl can farm so well with him, seen high-elo got 200 CS with him easily, wtf

Woony

Germany6657 Posts

March 24 2011 16:47 GMT

#37

On March 25 2011 00:10 emucxg wrote:
I tried him, he is awful at CS
I wonder how ppl can farm so well with him, seen high-elo got 200 CS with him easily, wtf

What? With Q and double dash farming is real easy. Especially once you get sunfire, which I do every game because ult & sunfire is some unreal aoe damage.

emucxg

Finland4559 Posts

March 24 2011 20:11 GMT

#38

On March 25 2011 01:47 Woony wrote:

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What? With Q and double dash farming is real easy. Especially once you get sunfire, which I do every game because ult & sunfire is some unreal aoe damage.

ok, gotta try more sunfire build now. thx mate

rigwarl

United States540 Posts

March 25 2011 00:03 GMT

#39

On March 25 2011 00:10 emucxg wrote:
I tried him, he is awful at CS
I wonder how ppl can farm so well with him, seen high-elo got 200 CS with him easily, wtf

wtf???? dash dash q insta clears the entire wave, easily one of the fastest CS'ers in the entire game

emucxg

Finland4559 Posts

March 25 2011 00:18 GMT

#40

On March 25 2011 09:03 rigwarl wrote:

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wtf???? dash dash q insta clears the entire wave, easily one of the fastest CS'ers in the entire game

hmmmm i might did something wrong then lolololol