EPT[Champion] Renekton - Page 10
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Malphite
United States186 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11824 Posts
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Silentenigma
Turkey2037 Posts
On September 19 2012 03:02 BlasiuS wrote: How do you trade with Riven as renekton? Is there a way to, or is renekton just hard-countered by a riven of ≥ skill? I always have trouble against riven as renek. Rene is one of hard counters to riven.You outtrade and outscale riven in even levels.Just dont get lvl 2 or lvl 6 cheesed.Only chance to stay even trades for riven is maxing her E. Every time she comes to stun you you can stun her first and Q her.You can also dodge her Q s with your E. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Complete
United States1864 Posts
On July 02 2013 09:51 onlywonderboy wrote: I'm really bad at Renekton, like I think I've won like one game with him bad. Anyone got some beginner tips? I would like to be good at him because I think he's a solid Top laner, but there's just something about him I'm not wrapping my head around. I feel like I lose almost all trades even if I get a little bit ahead. I mean, you probably know this, but in case you don't... E in -> W stun -> Q -> E out should work in most matchups and win you trades without much/any return damage. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On July 02 2013 10:15 Complete wrote: I mean, you probably know this, but in case you don't... E in -> W stun -> Q -> E out should work in most matchups and win you trades without much/any return damage. I think I've been Q-ing before W, but this makes a lot more sense. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
A good trick with Renekton is to build your fury to 40~45, then do your combo. E->W->Q->E out. Using W gives you 10 fury if you're under 50 so make sure you account for that when trading. However, you don't always have to stun before using Q. After you get level 3 Q, as long as you're hitting the enemy laner with empowered Qs you should be able to win basically any trade. Also don't be afraid to auto them and trade that way, as well. The heal from Q more than makes up for whatever minion damage you'll take. As long as you're saving your second E activation to disengage you should never really lose any trades. Post-6 you stomp on almost every single other laner whenever your ult is up, especially if you take ignite. You can even 1v2 some situations with your ult. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
Also I suggest watching/reading Souza's guides, because you can get a really good idea of how to play Renekton in a variety of matchups. I already had a pretty good idea of how to play Croc, but his guides helped iron out a lot of the kinks in my play and start winning 60-70% of my games with him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=409971 | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
How do I know when it's appropriate to trade? | ||
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HoriZoNXI
Australia310 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Generally speaking, you get the most damage levels 1~3 from empowered W and from levels 4+, you get the most damage from empowered Q. You should be maxing Q>E>W, although I think Darien has maxed E>Q>W before but that's a more teamfight oriented build. | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
Both those matchups should be in your favor tho...Altho malph might be a bit harder. | ||
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miicah
Australia2470 Posts
I have been rushing hydra but it makes me feel squishy so I think I may stop that. | ||
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ZataN
New Zealand414 Posts
On September 03 2013 15:32 miicah wrote: Yes the Irelia won was going well but I was overconfident and assumed their Lee had left. She snowballed levels/phage off that. Malph had a very weak early game but it seemed once he hit around 4/5 his Q poke was huge - I did run 21/9/0 in that lane so that probably had something to do with it. I have been rushing hydra but it makes me feel squishy so I think I may stop that. I just build hydra first and build no more damage items generally. Sometimes I just build tiamat and go straight into Sunfire. The tiamat improves renekton's combo a bunch with the W cancel I feel like its worth it. Im pretty bad though. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On September 03 2013 15:32 miicah wrote: Yes the Irelia won was going well but I was overconfident and assumed their Lee had left. She snowballed levels/phage off that. Malph had a very weak early game but it seemed once he hit around 4/5 his Q poke was huge - I did run 21/9/0 in that lane so that probably had something to do with it. I have been rushing hydra but it makes me feel squishy so I think I may stop that. If you rush hydra then at the point where teamfights break out you are generally way too squishy. Renekton is one of my most played champs and at this point the most I ever build is a brutalizer and that's only if something occurred to make me really fed early. Otherwise I just build sunfire or visage first depending on the lane matchup and the enemy team comp. You beat Irelia in early levels but if you don't punish her enough or you get cocky, it's very easy for Irelia to start being able to 1v1 you once she has enough armor. Especially if you rush hydra or something you won't have enough health to be able to beat through Irelia's lvl 4-5 hiten true damage. It's similar with malphite except if you just let the lane go too easy for him neither of you will be able to kill each other and it's really annoying to not be able to pressure a lane as Renekton. Renekton doesn't even really need offensive items to do a lot of damage in teamfights. Just with sunfire + ult you do quite a bit of aoe magic damage and I still end up with a lot of kills just going sunfire+visage as my first two items. Play Renekton like Darien. Forget tiamat and hydra. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11824 Posts
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