EPTMight pick up Kennen again after all these buffs he's quite playable again.
[Champion] Ezreal - Page 15
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Therealdevil
Netherlands1021 Posts
Might pick up Kennen again after all these buffs he's quite playable again. | ||
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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
On November 18 2011 18:15 Therealdevil wrote: Recently I've become a fan of consistant play, with a low amount of deaths. To obtain this you have to stop making high reward high risk dicisions and start playing to gain a lot of small rewards at a low risk, the amount of harass I do with my Q's and E's in lane requires me to have that much mana regen, also, the mana runes are scaling cause they make even with non-scaling runes quite fast, and even at lategame you will have mana isues, and even though you are the only AD carry that really needs a blue, the chances of getting one when you have a mana using AP caster in your team are quite low. I deem critchance/damage "high risk" due to the fact that i preffer to keep my distance and using my superior range to my advantage, the only matchup I think about changing this is when I'm playing vs Urgot, when you do have to get in there to win. Fair enough. For what it's worth, I decided to try your setup and I'm never going back. I'm used to playing very austere with my mana/hp, being selectively aggressive, but Ezreal really benefits SO much from having nearly unlimited mana that it's worth the loss in defensive runes (why trade when you can just force free damage?). Not to mention, I used to run oom in extended fights midgame and that just feel extremely awful. I can now ditch an early sheen and not feel like every single Q has to count or I'm screwed. I find it hard to ditch lethality, though. I can't really think of many scenarios in which I'd rather have 3% lifesteal + some minor stats than 4%crit and 10%crit damage. | ||
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Therealdevil
Netherlands1021 Posts
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
I'd really like to see a replay if you have one, I feel like there's something I'm missing here. Edit: Wait, what are your starting items if boots go after wrigg? Cloth 3 + 1? | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
Start can be Boots 3 or Cloth 5, in my experience. Depends on your lane opponent. | ||
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NSANE.hydra
United States644 Posts
On November 17 2011 20:21 Therealdevil wrote: I believe that with Ezreal, mana regen is important. http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=0-3-0-2-4-0-1-0-1-0-3-0-3-0-3-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-3-0-1-3-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0 I run AD quints, Arpen red's, mana regen blue's and mana regen yellow's. If you doubt my credibility, I'm currently on page 1 of EU with Ezreal as most played (bragbrag) I deserve to brag a little now tho? ; ; those are the masteries i run on ezreal, but i take improved recall over .5% movespeed lol  seems more worth it, you kite well enough that ~1 MS isn't really gonna make a difference at all, while a 12.5% reduction in recall time will.triforce first is good, but if you get pretty good early lead it's fine to go BT. gives you sustain and higher damage than triforce, you can snowball a lead better with it imo. | ||
rigwarl
United States540 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 20 2011 09:58 rigwarl wrote: Silly Lanz, you can't go Cloth 3 + 1 You can if you wait in base for 5 gold. | ||
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Therealdevil
Netherlands1021 Posts
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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
Wriggles > Triforce > Last whisper getting boots somewhere along the way Is this optimal? And can we have a compilation of how different people/teams at MLG built their Ezreals? | ||
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mel_ee
2447 Posts
On November 21 2011 18:25 Bwaaaa wrote: At the beginning of mlg I saw an Ezreal that was built Wriggles > Triforce > Last whisper getting boots somewhere along the way Is this optimal? And can we have a compilation of how different people/teams at MLG built their Ezreals? This is just the new trend since World Elite's Ezreal player started it. (I believe it was IEM Guangzhou) On streams they joke around with the terms "north american ezreal" (with reference to blood thirster first). Anywho, it is good early on vs lanes that push since ezreal can't do much dmg to minions so fast. Wriggles is pretty awesome. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-1-0-2-4-4-0-4-1-1-0-1-0-0-3-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-3-1-0-3-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 work better for Ezreal? 3/4 of your spells do magic damage, I think 4% cdr and 10% magic pen is worth giving up .5% movement speed and 3% lifesteal. Also how do people feel about Manamune? I find I can run OOM very easily without it and it allows you to poke and harass a lot more. Ezreal can charge a Tear very quickly too, it quickly becomes very cost efficient Attack Damage. | ||
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Gooey
United States944 Posts
On November 25 2011 09:09 Alzadar wrote: Wouldn't something like http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-1-0-2-4-4-0-4-1-1-0-1-0-0-3-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-3-1-0-3-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 work better for Ezreal? 3/4 of your spells do magic damage, I think 4% cdr and 10% magic pen is worth giving up .5% movement speed and 3% lifesteal. Also how do people feel about Manamune? I find I can run OOM very easily without it and it allows you to poke and harass a lot more. Ezreal can charge a Tear very quickly too, it quickly becomes very cost efficient Attack Damage. It's been tried a lot, and tbh, it's good for the late game, but your early and mid game is too weak. Theoretically, it is an insanely good item on him, but when you apply it, you end up not doing enough damage early on. You just throw out a bunch of quick lefts with no right hook to follow up with. Urgot, and to some extent corki, are the only two that can pull it off for the duo lane. Urgot has a lot more base damage with his attacks and abilities, and still hits hard enough to be relevant for the mid game going manamune first. The same goes for corki, especially with his passive adding true damage. Ezreal needs to have some kinda pack to his punch, or a lot of sustain to be effective. Without any utility, he has to have something to keep himself alive, while still being able to contribute to the team. That is why the builds you see most are either triforce or wriggles first. Triforce gives you added mobility, some sustain, and damage, while wriggles provides a lot of sustain, vision, and some damage. Triforce also gives you 3 early/midgame timings with a sheen, phage, and the finished product. That is just how I feel in my games that I run manamune on him versus the other 2 items. | ||
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Therealdevil
Netherlands1021 Posts
No worries, be happy. (mana per 5 lvl 18 blue's 'n yellow's I use, together with the mana masteries in utility ofc) | ||
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EquilasH
Denmark2142 Posts
On November 25 2011 19:21 Therealdevil wrote: Get mana runes instead. No worries, be happy. (mana per 5 lvl 18 blue's 'n yellow's I use, together with the mana masteries in utility ofc) I tried Ezreal a few games the other day and I used 6 mp5/lvl yellows and 7 mp5/lvl blues, it felt sufficient enough (combined with the mana regen from utility) - the remaining yellow and blue slots were used for flat armor and flat mres, respectively. I tried quite a few different masteries, and the two that felt the most efficient were: http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=1-3-0-0-4-4-0-0-1-1-0-0-3-0-3-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-3-1-0-3-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0 http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=0-3-0-1-4-4-0-0-1-1-1-0-3-0-3-0-1-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-3-0-0-3-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 Depending if I went cleanse or exhaust. | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
On November 25 2011 11:06 Gooey wrote: It's been tried a lot, and tbh, it's good for the late game, but your early and mid game is too weak. Theoretically, it is an insanely good item on him, but when you apply it, you end up not doing enough damage early on. You just throw out a bunch of quick lefts with no right hook to follow up with. Urgot, and to some extent corki, are the only two that can pull it off for the duo lane. Urgot has a lot more base damage with his attacks and abilities, and still hits hard enough to be relevant for the mid game going manamune first. The same goes for corki, especially with his passive adding true damage. Ezreal needs to have some kinda pack to his punch, or a lot of sustain to be effective. Without any utility, he has to have something to keep himself alive, while still being able to contribute to the team. That is why the builds you see most are either triforce or wriggles first. Triforce gives you added mobility, some sustain, and damage, while wriggles provides a lot of sustain, vision, and some damage. Triforce also gives you 3 early/midgame timings with a sheen, phage, and the finished product. That is just how I feel in my games that I run manamune on him versus the other 2 items. I thought the big reason to go mana mune on Urgot was for the strength of spirit, and that you build tanky going into the mid late game so you don't get killed instantly if you ultimate some one channeling an ult. I could see urgot dropping manamune and just buying a cup for mana sustain against ap casters in the mid lane, and then getting a faster blood thirster or triforce while building him 9-21-0. As for manamune on Ezreal. As long as you're not using q too much for last hitting and you're not pushing the lane you shouldn't be running oom too often. A fast sheen will increase your supply a good amount, as will running a few mana/5/level runes/ masteries. Basically Ezreal's damage from spells will stop increasing when you start to level w, and you're going to want to be ahead in the game item wise when that happens. If you're behind with a mid game champ like ez heading into the late game, you're going to need to fall into a support role who's only cc is the occational triforce proc and red buff if you've got it, making you a pretty shitty support to be quite honest. I just don't think the early mana mune is worth it as it just delays higher damaging items like sheen/bloodthirster/brutalizer or what ever else you were going to be buying. | ||
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Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
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Lanzoma
Mexico813 Posts
On November 17 2011 20:21 Therealdevil wrote: I believe that with Ezreal, mana regen is important. http://thefwcentral.com/lol/#&trees=0-3-0-2-4-0-1-0-1-0-3-0-3-0-3-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-1-0-3-0-1-3-0-0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0 I run AD quints, Arpen red's, mana regen blue's and mana regen yellow's. If you doubt my credibility, I'm currently on page 1 of EU with Ezreal as most played (bragbrag) I deserve to brag a little now tho? ; ; This. | ||
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