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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 05 2012 16:27 GMT
#321
Ez in a solo lane is actually really strong. I think one of his weaknesses in the duo lane meta is that he doesn't mesh as well with a support as a right click champ does, or Corki even does. Every time I get sent mid as Ez I end up winning lane with no problem, even if it's another AD in there.
It's your boy Guzma!
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 16:34:52
February 05 2012 16:33 GMT
#322
The meta is also different because all the Chinese servers are a few patches behind iirc and it's not necessarily the same as us at that same particular patch. Majority of their games finish before 30 minutes (with Ezreal in it anyway). Usually at that point, Ezreal shines best i.e. early to mid game since whereas carries like Graves and Kog outclass him late game.

I feel wriggles --> TF --> IE/LW is the most suitable build for Ezreal, and I have had huge success with it. Also I feel people put less emphasis on his autoattacks. Just because he has to spam his Q doesn't mean he shouldn't be autoattacking lol. With IE, I have no trouble when I am in close proximity in team fights.

Also, as Requizen stated, Ez mid is pretty good (If I get sent there, I go AD anyway LOL) and just bash them APs. Although against some, I have to play passive.
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seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9830 Posts
February 08 2012 11:38 GMT
#323
JUNGLE EZREAL

WHAT SHOULD I RUN

My page right now is AD Quints & Marks, Armor Seals, MR/Lv Glyphs, and 21/9/0.

Would AS marks be better, since they speed your jungle ever so slightly but are less useful in a gank?
Would 21/0/9 work better even if I get low from red?

Wriggles -> Trinity --> IE/LW?
Wriggles -> Trinity --> BT?
Scepter --> BT?

When do you add in attack speed?
boomer hands
Kaien
Profile Joined August 2011
Belgium178 Posts
February 19 2012 14:49 GMT
#324
i just bought Ezreal and he feels really weak :/
i hardly win any games ..
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 19 2012 14:50 GMT
#325
On February 06 2012 01:27 Requizen wrote:
Ez in a solo lane is actually really strong. I think one of his weaknesses in the duo lane meta is that he doesn't mesh as well with a support as a right click champ does, or Corki even does. Every time I get sent mid as Ez I end up winning lane with no problem, even if it's another AD in there.


He does really well with Janna.
As Ezreal i hate playing with another support tho.
Feel like a waste indeed.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
February 19 2012 15:00 GMT
#326
yh, the point of botlane is sacrificing levels for safer farm, but ezreal doesn't do as well with gold as other carries but does more with levels
to be fair, though, I think Ez is the worst AD in the game at the moment, so maybe he's just too weak overall
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Tryndamere
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada145 Posts
February 19 2012 18:00 GMT
#327
People say ez falls off late game because they only relay on Q spam and ult and ult doesn't do shit damage if you built straight up AD. If you carefully look at ez passive, it's actually promoting autoattack. So if you build him AD, you better build IE, LW, BT. This kind of build will allow him to solo a bruiser easily without even kiting. In team fights, his autoattack will hit really hard like 600-700 per crit.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 19 2012 19:31 GMT
#328
On February 06 2012 00:53 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
I remember Morello basically saying that the chinese send ezreal mid instead of bot a couple days back in the LoL forums. And we already know that works decently so maybe its not some super secret strat or build.

Presidency/Kriticalkill used to force ezreal mid when he was smurfing with me.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 20 2012 00:56 GMT
#329
I think I'm just gonna stop building TF for a while. It's a good item, but I actually find after a few games of it that straight AD carry and like an early Wriggles is good on him.
It's your boy Guzma!
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
February 20 2012 04:14 GMT
#330
yeah I've started building straight AD carry with 2/3 DB , IE, zeal, BT/LW and it feels really powerful. Your immediate burst is definitely lower than a TF->IE/BT build but only a few autos tip the scales.
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
February 20 2012 11:34 GMT
#331
Recently I tried 2dblades into sheen then pure ad, I agree getting triforce is expensive but sheen is not and is still very good.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Divine-Sneaker
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark1225 Posts
February 20 2012 13:19 GMT
#332
The thing I hate the most is the fact that the ultimate just can't even clear a wave. It's just such a waste to know that you can defend a tower by ulting the creepwave, but you'll never be able to get more than 1 or 2 of the creep. I just wish they'd somehow change the ult so that it can actually clear a wave while building AD, because almost any other character can basically do the same with a non-ultimate aoe skill, which is just saddening.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 20 2012 21:49 GMT
#333
On February 20 2012 20:34 nojok wrote:
Recently I tried 2dblades into sheen then pure ad, I agree getting triforce is expensive but sheen is not and is still very good.

Eeh, I don't agree. If you're not building Sheen into something, it really scales off later on. Early on, it's great, you get a "free extra auto" from having it. Later, though, your base AD doesn't scale as well as AD items and if you're using that Sheen proc on Q, it can't crit (I don't know if Sheen proc can crit anyway). I think, but know that I'm not exactly an authority on the matter, that if you're not planning on getting TF (or Lichbane on other champs), Sheen is a waste that boosts your burst a bit during the midgame only to fall off quickly.

On another note, I'm up in the air about Zeal/PD on him. On one hand, of course they're great items that give Crit/AS/MS, so yeah, good. On the other hand, he has a built in Flash and AS buff, so I don't know if it's as necessary to buy them as it is on, like, Cait or Graves or whatever. I like having it on him, but I don't know if I should go BT-PD or BT-LW/IE-PD.

And yeah, full AD Ez is working so well for me. Maybe it's just playstyle, but I honestly just don't ever lose to TF Ezreals and I feel stronger against other AD laners than I did before. I still think he works better in a solo lane than a duo bot, but he works well with aggressive supports lately (Leona mostly).
It's your boy Guzma!
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
February 21 2012 05:52 GMT
#334
@requizen I am going like IE->zeal->BT/LW and THEN a PD instead of getting a PD immediately after IE. Maybe you can try that. You do need a PD for your third item if just because of crits later on but early focusing more on AD is better.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
February 21 2012 11:30 GMT
#335
On February 21 2012 06:49 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2012 20:34 nojok wrote:
Recently I tried 2dblades into sheen then pure ad, I agree getting triforce is expensive but sheen is not and is still very good.

Eeh, I don't agree. If you're not building Sheen into something, it really scales off later on. Early on, it's great, you get a "free extra auto" from having it. Later, though, your base AD doesn't scale as well as AD items and if you're using that Sheen proc on Q, it can't crit (I don't know if Sheen proc can crit anyway). I think, but know that I'm not exactly an authority on the matter, that if you're not planning on getting TF (or Lichbane on other champs), Sheen is a waste that boosts your burst a bit during the midgame only to fall off quickly.

On another note, I'm up in the air about Zeal/PD on him. On one hand, of course they're great items that give Crit/AS/MS, so yeah, good. On the other hand, he has a built in Flash and AS buff, so I don't know if it's as necessary to buy them as it is on, like, Cait or Graves or whatever. I like having it on him, but I don't know if I should go BT-PD or BT-LW/IE-PD.

And yeah, full AD Ez is working so well for me. Maybe it's just playstyle, but I honestly just don't ever lose to TF Ezreals and I feel stronger against other AD laners than I did before. I still think he works better in a solo lane than a duo bot, but he works well with aggressive supports lately (Leona mostly).

It's more about getting a later triforce, sheen then IE BT or TF, it depends if you feel u need the extra ms and the slow or more lifesteal. It's maybe not optimal, I pick EZ when I have to and I prefer sololanes so i can adapt my ad carry to what they've picked and I pick him when they have lot of gap closers because his E is great. So I'm not expereienced EZ. I used to prefer Corki but I feel less team dependant to play ez.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
February 21 2012 15:06 GMT
#336
Buying Doran's Blade and Sheen, then selling them later is less of a loss than selling 3 Doran's Blades. It's not a big deal if you gotta sell a midgame item or two.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 21 2012 15:28 GMT
#337
Sure, I can see that. I guess it depends on how much I'm fighting mid-game. Sheen is good if you're just poking and exchanging as such, but I don't think it's necessary if you're in a passive lane or against someone who can shrug off the hits and ignore you.

As for getting TF late, I don't really like it. If you have an AD build (BT/IE/LW/PD in whatever grouping and order), you'll have MS/AS/Crit/AD in much higher numbers, so what you get from TF isn't huge. The 150% base AD proc isn't huge once there's a decent amount of armor on the field, plus you'll already have a bunch more just from AD items. If you really feel like you need the slow proc, just make sure you get Red. I mean, yeah, you'll never always have Red, but you can reliably have it for most fights.

TF is a mid game power item, the only people you get it late on are tanky bruisers who don't get any other damage items. I admit it's great if you're running around being aggressive and skirmishing mid-game, but later on for an AD carry, it's not something I find super necessary.

On a different note, I actually like Wriggle's on him lately, maybe with 1 DBlade or just boots. The proc helps his super slow clearing, and the lifesteal helps a bit in exchanges. Plus, you know, free ward. It's probably sub-optimal math-wise, but I feel like the utility and safety you get from it just makes it a good pick.
It's your boy Guzma!
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
February 25 2012 17:58 GMT
#338
I watched CLG vs Dignitas from the Crs Invitational, and saw qtpie get a Black Cleaver on Ezreal. Can someone explain to me why? I feel that the AS bonus from hitting skillshots was pretty solid already, and thus it would be much better to go BT or TF first.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3051 Posts
February 25 2012 18:21 GMT
#339
Can you tell me what items he had in the end (if you remember)? I didn't watch the Invitational.
End my suffering
3 Lions
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3705 Posts
February 25 2012 18:37 GMT
#340
his final items were QSS, Zerk greaves, IE, BT, TF, and BC
He built his TF after the BC, and the BT after the TF. IE was finished last
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