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Mauzel
Profile Joined December 2009
United States421 Posts
August 30 2012 19:36 GMT
#761
Feel like my ability to administer beats is fairly limited when I attack once every two seconds after malph's aspd debuff
Do you go DR => GRB?

Vs Singed do you go double DR => grail or philo/pick => grail?
I was spamming snowballs against singed but it felt like he could push lane, take some snowballs, recall, then TP / run back supah fast and not miss too much cs.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
August 30 2012 19:57 GMT
#762
Gp5 vs DRing decision comes down to whether you're just farming and zoning, or you're shit-stomping them. No reason to get DRings in lane if all you're doing is getting CS and not roaming/fighting, imo.
It's your boy Guzma!
Seiuchi
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States931 Posts
August 31 2012 01:56 GMT
#763
Today in ranked we won a game because we forced our top to play Nunu with Smash build. Even though he never played it he beat Yorick np, thanks Smash.
zodde
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1908 Posts
August 31 2012 06:06 GMT
#764
I know the GP10 discussion has been done a million times, but I really can't see how it is a wise choice to trade laning power for extra late game gold versus Darius. Both philo and kages are pretty lackluster when it comes to laning vs darius, while earlier defenses (dorans, tabi, glacial) or CDR (fiendish codex, glacial) could help quite a lot to actually win the lane.

Going GP10 versus darius and try to mostly farm just ends up with you dying to his stupid damage, so you end up behind even though you have GP10.

I just saw you lose lane vs a darius Smash, mostly due to a early shaco gank + no help what so ever from mummy, but do you think that going GP10 when behind vs him is the best route?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 31 2012 23:43 GMT
#765
Im kinda lost here or missed it, but what exactly is the hybrid pen runpage? thx in advance, great success with nunu top so far, gotta love when they walk into your brush while you channel your ult for 2500dmg.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
September 01 2012 00:34 GMT
#766
On September 01 2012 08:43 AsnSensation wrote:
Im kinda lost here or missed it, but what exactly is the hybrid pen runpage? thx in advance, great success with nunu top so far, gotta love when they walk into your brush while you channel your ult for 2500dmg.

I think it just involves using the hybrid pen marks/quints.
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
September 01 2012 01:27 GMT
#767
On September 01 2012 08:43 AsnSensation wrote:
Im kinda lost here or missed it, but what exactly is the hybrid pen runpage? thx in advance, great success with nunu top so far, gotta love when they walk into your brush while you channel your ult for 2500dmg.

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/477045#runes "Nunu vs Mage".
AP Quints, split pen marks, armor seals, flat MR blues.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
the p00n
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands615 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 04:24:31
September 09 2012 04:24 GMT
#768
The more I play Nunu top the more I wonder how people haven't caught on to it yet. It's so abusive. Fairly easy to reach 40cdr and 300+ armor. Mass bloodboils on your AD while iceballing/randuining the enemy carry (with a frozen heart on you for good measure).

He is so punishing when people make mistakes, too. Was laning against a Jayce, he smacked me away so I iceballed him, flashed onto him (he had no flash) and made him eat a full channel ult + ignite, with another iceball to finish the job.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 09 2012 04:28 GMT
#769
Because "hes a support or jungle ur stupid lol".

The average person is very resistant to change and closed minded. If a pro ever plays it in a tourney, it'll be accepted.
It's your boy Guzma!
the p00n
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands615 Posts
September 09 2012 06:15 GMT
#770
Ya, I guess...

Has anyone tried Rylai's on Nunu?
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 06:26:38
September 09 2012 06:25 GMT
#771
What? You're aware that slows stack poorly right? You'd get like... 65% slow instead of 60% ~_~ the Rylai slow is at 1/3 effectiveness and multiplied onto the remaining movespeed after snowball.

What, are you going to slow monsters with consume?
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
September 09 2012 06:28 GMT
#772
I can't see Rylai's being any good on Nunu at all. The HP is pretty wasted due to the efficiency of consume, the slow is pointless because your two damaging spells already slow and slows stack only multiplicatively and at lowered percentages. Really the only reason is the AP and there are a whole lot of options that are better than 80 AP for 3.1k
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
the p00n
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands615 Posts
September 09 2012 07:33 GMT
#773
I knew it stacked poorly but not that poorly... in the Cho'Gath topic people suggest rushing Rylai's on him, so I figured why not on Nunu.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
September 09 2012 08:03 GMT
#774
On September 09 2012 16:33 the p00n wrote:
I knew it stacked poorly but not that poorly... in the Cho'Gath topic people suggest rushing Rylai's on him, so I figured why not on Nunu.

The only ability of chogaths that slows is rupture though. He can hit an entire team with vorpal spikes/scream and slow them all. Nunu already has a built in aoe slow, and while he cant snowball an entire team thats still a slow in its own right.
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
September 09 2012 19:51 GMT
#775
Rylai's was suggested on Cho in great deal because that applying a slow to someone makes them much easier to hit with Rupture, which he's pretty much reliant on to output most of damage/disrupt/keep himself from being kited. With Nunu you have no such skillshots to worry about -- just point and click, or charging ult.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 09 2012 20:22 GMT
#776
Rylai on Nunu is kind of an overkill.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
September 09 2012 21:17 GMT
#777
wait
darius hard lane wtf he is easy unless you mess up, he has no sustain you just snowball him till he has to leave gg
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 09 2012 21:43 GMT
#778
On September 10 2012 06:17 samthesaluki wrote:
wait
darius hard lane wtf he is easy unless you mess up, he has no sustain you just snowball him till he has to leave gg

At lvls 1-3 you can't really stand near creeps because he will just kill you.

Darius has no mana costs. Consume and snowball actually cost mana.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11505 Posts
September 09 2012 21:43 GMT
#779
I think the point about rylais is that it is a tanky AP item. When compared to RoA, Rylais gives you 500 hp and 80 Ap, while a fully stacked RoA gives you 80 AP, 630 health and 750 mana. Both cost nearly the same amount of money, so if you don't profit from that additional mana, which a nunu with chalice, or a cho, usually don't do at all, if you would want to build RoA, you might as well build Rylais and grab that slow. But i think that in the case of Nunu, it would be way better to just split that off in 2 items and grab a tanky item and an AP item (if you want that combination of stats) since he does not really profit from the slow, either.

But in general, if you want to build RoA, you should usually look very closely if you'd not rather build Rylais. Unless you really want that mana, it's probably the better choice. If Mana is irrelevant for your champion at that point, i don't see why anyone would ever build RoA over Rylais.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 09 2012 21:45 GMT
#780
On September 10 2012 06:43 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 06:17 samthesaluki wrote:
wait
darius hard lane wtf he is easy unless you mess up, he has no sustain you just snowball him till he has to leave gg

At lvls 1-3 you can't really stand near creeps because he will just kill you.

Darius has no mana costs. Consume and snowball actually cost mana.

lolwut

Utilize passive, trade autos with him. If he ever stands and fights in creeps, eat something and laugh at him.
It's your boy Guzma!
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