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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
September 09 2012 21:47 GMT
#781
Maybe its because I'm running 9/0/21 still instead of 9/21/0 but I've found I can't bully Darius hard until rank 2 consume and rank 3 snowball.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 09 2012 21:54 GMT
#782
On September 10 2012 06:47 xes wrote:
Maybe its because I'm running 9/0/21 still instead of 9/21/0 but I've found I can't bully Darius hard until rank 2 consume and rank 3 snowball.

I rarely run 9/0/21 anymore at all. Using Yeti paws too tempting, and don't need gold masteries when you just kill everything and win lane.
It's your boy Guzma!
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
September 09 2012 23:05 GMT
#783
Have you guys thought about running split pen quints at all for top Nunu?

Do like mpen reds, armor yellows, mr/level blues, split pen quints.

Damage on snowball is so high base, might be more efficient.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 09 2012 23:11 GMT
#784
On September 10 2012 08:05 Ketara wrote:
Have you guys thought about running split pen quints at all for top Nunu?

Do like mpen reds, armor yellows, mr/level blues, split pen quints.

Damage on snowball is so high base, might be more efficient.

Split pen reds are the core on this thread, unless it's someone you can't trade autos with. AP Quints are stronger, imo.
It's your boy Guzma!
the p00n
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands615 Posts
September 10 2012 04:16 GMT
#785
On September 10 2012 06:45 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 06:43 xes wrote:
On September 10 2012 06:17 samthesaluki wrote:
wait
darius hard lane wtf he is easy unless you mess up, he has no sustain you just snowball him till he has to leave gg

At lvls 1-3 you can't really stand near creeps because he will just kill you.

Darius has no mana costs. Consume and snowball actually cost mana.

lolwut

Utilize passive, trade autos with him. If he ever stands and fights in creeps, eat something and laugh at him.


I would love to see you beat a Darius in 1v1 at lvl 2 with Nunu. I don't think it's possible.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
September 10 2012 14:00 GMT
#786
So if you guys are on blue team and really brave and your opponents are bad and have a jungler that starts at blue, you can run vamp quints and cdr blues and steal big wraith-> red at level 1 while still having a decent health pool remaining (drink health pot tho)

Also, don't punch darius. It's been stated before in this thread.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 10 2012 14:07 GMT
#787
On September 10 2012 23:00 101toss wrote:
So if you guys are on blue team and really brave and your opponents are bad and have a jungler that starts at blue, you can run vamp quints and cdr blues and steal big wraith-> red at level 1 while still having a decent health pool remaining (drink health pot tho)

Also, don't punch darius. It's been stated before in this thread.

I'm sure you could probably do just Red without changing runes, maybe run 2 red pots 1 blue or 3 red if you want to be extra safe.

And I'll do what I want. I run 9/21 against him anyway, I generally feel tanky enough to slap his shit.
It's your boy Guzma!
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 14:12:47
September 10 2012 14:10 GMT
#788
Pretty sure vs. Darius you throw snowballs and kite. If he grabs you, snowball his face and do your best to walk away (even if he slows you, his slow is weaker) and then continue snowballing while his LONGASS GRAB COOLDOWN isn't available. 2 or 3 free snowballs later, all with no potential for him grabbing you and fighting + you consuming off the damage, you should be winning the "trade."
Darius has no built-in sustain, so you don't try to win the quick trades, you try to end them ASAP and outlast him.

Mighty yeti paws are more for ranged or AP opponents who can't hit back very effectively in melee when their cooldowns are off.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 17:51:40
September 10 2012 17:51 GMT
#789
I beat Darius by playing super passive until he attempts a pull and misses it (yay free damage time) or hits it (fck run away run away, ok now I get 2 free snowballs).

I lose to Darius whenever I try to go for yeti paws, even when his hook is on CD. He doesn't rely on autos that much to trade damage as W is a reset and Q puts stacks on you. With 4 stacks of bleed you've lost the trade unless you're way ahead of him already.

Your Q is 16 seconds at rank 1 which is forever vs Darius' short CDs and low mana costs.
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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
September 10 2012 20:05 GMT
#790
On September 10 2012 23:00 101toss wrote:
So if you guys are on blue team and really brave and your opponents are bad and have a jungler that starts at blue, you can run vamp quints and cdr blues and steal big wraith-> red at level 1 while still having a decent health pool remaining (drink health pot tho)

Also, don't punch darius. It's been stated before in this thread.


As blue with nunu, i find it nearly impossible to not successfully steal red at lvl 2. I'm pretty sure like 0/100 people ward red now, and nunu can't die even if hes caught, mostly.
Freeeeeeedom
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 20:14:13
September 10 2012 20:13 GMT
#791
edit: screw nunu players. no advice 4 u.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
September 10 2012 23:58 GMT
#792
On September 11 2012 05:13 obesechicken13 wrote:
edit: screw nunu players. no advice 4 u.

did u die to my rageblade yeti
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
September 11 2012 00:40 GMT
#793
On September 11 2012 08:58 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2012 05:13 obesechicken13 wrote:
edit: screw nunu players. no advice 4 u.

did u die to my rageblade yeti

No skill ch4mp 4 n00bs Lucky Mother!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
September 11 2012 00:51 GMT
#794
On September 10 2012 08:05 Ketara wrote:
Have you guys thought about running split pen quints at all for top Nunu?

Do like mpen reds, armor yellows, mr/level blues, split pen quints.

Damage on snowball is so high base, might be more efficient.

Problem with any kind of penetration quints for Nunu is that AP quints A) have a better stat-conversion rate, B) AP also increases the amount you heal via consume. By a lot.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
September 11 2012 15:27 GMT
#795
On September 11 2012 09:51 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 08:05 Ketara wrote:
Have you guys thought about running split pen quints at all for top Nunu?

Do like mpen reds, armor yellows, mr/level blues, split pen quints.

Damage on snowball is so high base, might be more efficient.

Problem with any kind of penetration quints for Nunu is that AP quints A) have a better stat-conversion rate, B) AP also increases the amount you heal via consume. By a lot.

I mean, the second point is moot compared to vamp quints, but 15 damage on iceball AND 15 heal on Q is too good to give up
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
JokerSan
Profile Joined April 2005
United States306 Posts
September 11 2012 19:19 GMT
#796
Whenever I see this topic I cringe at how outdated my OP was.
LoL: Soles | forever 1600
affinity
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States266 Posts
September 16 2012 02:11 GMT
#797
Has anyone tried using exhaust on top nunu? I think it might be nice because it makes it harder for people to get out of ults. I think it's way more useful in teamfights since I usually just try to keep the carries alive.

So, I've been trying out exhaust/ignite top; while I'm not playing real good players (I'm ~1600s), I feel super strong fighting pretty much anyone. If jungler comes, exhaust can help escapes too. Maybe exhaust/flash might be nice?
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
September 16 2012 07:29 GMT
#798
On September 16 2012 11:11 affinity wrote:
Has anyone tried using exhaust on top nunu? I think it might be nice because it makes it harder for people to get out of ults. I think it's way more useful in teamfights since I usually just try to keep the carries alive.

So, I've been trying out exhaust/ignite top; while I'm not playing real good players (I'm ~1600s), I feel super strong fighting pretty much anyone. If jungler comes, exhaust can help escapes too. Maybe exhaust/flash might be nice?

A 50% ms slow is enough anyways
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17275 Posts
September 18 2012 01:19 GMT
#799
On September 16 2012 11:11 affinity wrote:
Has anyone tried using exhaust on top nunu? I think it might be nice because it makes it harder for people to get out of ults. I think it's way more useful in teamfights since I usually just try to keep the carries alive.

So, I've been trying out exhaust/ignite top; while I'm not playing real good players (I'm ~1600s), I feel super strong fighting pretty much anyone. If jungler comes, exhaust can help escapes too. Maybe exhaust/flash might be nice?

Snowball > Ult does the same thing Exhaust would. You're better off having flash to catch someone, ignite to better dive someone, or TP to aid team fights.
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LeeDawg
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1306 Posts
September 22 2012 20:43 GMT
#800
so i just got owned by a yorick when i was doing smashgizmos build. i know that i'm supposed to own yoricks but i got stomped. i did the standard, level e and gp/10s into chalice. he just went manamune and stomped me. what did i do wrong?
:-)
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