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On August 05 2012 06:21 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2012 06:07 101toss wrote:On August 05 2012 05:17 Slayer91 wrote:
You should rune for early game, the effect later is much smaller than early game and early game advantage eaisly makes up for a slight weakness later. So I should swap out mr/lvl for flat mr? I run flat MR top lane vs magic poke, but for most other matchups you don't expect to take a lot of magic damage until MR/lvl has outscaled the flat MR.
The question was more rhetorical, saying that the mid/late advantage outweighs the early game and as such mr/lvl is commonly used.
Of course it's all situational. Vs rumble or vlad I would run flat mr, just as how I would run vamp quints in farmy/sustain matchups or hybrid reds in matchups where I can trade with autos (ie not Darius). Except for armor yellows. Always flat armor yellows.
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Well, it shouldn't be hard to win with Nunu after laning phase. Just stick to your AD carry, snowball whoever gets in his way and ulti when there's more than one person diving for him. And Bloodboil.
He gotta be ultra-retarded to lose like that.
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On August 05 2012 07:23 necrosed wrote:
Well, it shouldn't be hard to win with Nunu after laning phase. Just stick to your AD carry, snowball whoever gets in his way and ulti when there's more than one person diving for him. And Bloodboil.
He gotta be ultra-retarded to lose like that.
I usually win these games
The games I lose are either people getting caught or bot lane going 0-8 in around 10 minutes
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You can do HP/level in place of flat armor when you won't need the armor.
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I've played about 15 Nunu games now, and the only ones I've not dominated lane were against Shen running teleport, who although I bullied and harassed him hard stayed within 10 cs, and Vlad, who got tons of jungle support early and then turned the lane into a farmfest after 9. I did go Abyssal instead of Frozen that game, which helped come back from the jungle pressure, and when your jungle is someone like malph or Ali who wants Frozen, I like it as an alternative.
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On August 05 2012 07:57 upperbound wrote:
I've played about 15 Nunu games now, and the only ones I've not dominated lane were against Shen running teleport, who although I bullied and harassed him hard stayed within 10 cs, and Vlad, who got tons of jungle support early and then turned the lane into a farmfest after 9. I did go Abyssal instead of Frozen that game, which helped come back from the jungle pressure, and when your jungle is someone like malph or Ali who wants Frozen, I like it as an alternative.
You'll need to itemize 40 Cdr in some way. I'm thinking of SV/blue pot to get that, but then you're short an armor item (could buy an aegis with the saved money though). Either that or finish pick->dfg
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Could go with turning that philo into shurelias or the kage into DFG to fix your missing CDR, too.
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On August 05 2012 07:57 upperbound wrote:
I've played about 15 Nunu games now, and the only ones I've not dominated lane were against Shen running teleport, who although I bullied and harassed him hard stayed within 10 cs, and Vlad, who got tons of jungle support early and then turned the lane into a farmfest after 9. I did go Abyssal instead of Frozen that game, which helped come back from the jungle pressure, and when your jungle is someone like malph or Ali who wants Frozen, I like it as an alternative.
You should be able to beat shen until he gets significant amount of levels in his shield and shields your harass. Early levels of shield won't block snowballs completely and has a pretty long cd. Nunu should absolutely crush Vlad; if you get camped then well, you won't win any lane, but your team should be able to take advantage of that.
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Smash, I kind of hate you for the Nunu thing you posted on Reddit. 3 games in a row and nobody can deal with it @_@
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On August 05 2012 11:07 sylverfyre wrote:
Could go with turning that philo into shurelias or the kage into DFG to fix your missing CDR, too.
Yeah I don't see rushing Glacial vs an ap lane, went abyssal instead of it the other day myself. ended up getting rev iirc
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I've been skipping Kage's in a lot of games lately and I like the results of a faster core. Philo-Chalice-Shroud vs most AD and Philo-Chalice-Revolver/Codex vs AP. I don't miss the AP early since mana regen is damage and health for Nunu, and I haven't missed the income much either since there is a stronger early game without the 2nd GP10.
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I love bloodboiling siege minions to push.
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On August 06 2012 06:45 necrosed wrote:
I love bloodboiling siege minions to push.
I love pushing then stealing red, waiting for someone to come as I empire them
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I've had two dodges from my team out of three games because I've called solo top nunu. ¬_¬
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On August 05 2012 05:17 Slayer91 wrote:
You should rune for early game, the effect later is much smaller than early game and early game advantage eaisly makes up for a slight weakness later.
The thing is, spellvamp is hard to itemize for when you're already getting a WOTA and are wanting even more vamp. Thing is, Nunu doesn't seem like he cares about more vamp post-WotA, so I'm not thinking the vamp quints are necessary. You already get LITERALLY 50% of your max health from 1 Q.
On August 06 2012 06:45 necrosed wrote:
I love bloodboiling siege minions to push.
Wait. You can BB on minions? PROMOTE FLASH? :D?
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had the same Idea a couple of days ago.
Promote and bloodboil = to push towers. Since it was kinda obvious I thought somebody already tried this.
Can you promote the plants and turrets from zyra and heimer?
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Yeah, Nunu is one of the few champs that Promote is actively a good idea on, as that BB'd minion dishes out the pain, feeds you money, and pushes that turret hard.
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On August 05 2012 18:14 NovaTheFeared wrote:
I've been skipping Kage's in a lot of games lately and I like the results of a faster core. Philo-Chalice-Shroud vs most AD and Philo-Chalice-Revolver/Codex vs AP. I don't miss the AP early since mana regen is damage and health for Nunu, and I haven't missed the income much either since there is a stronger early game without the 2nd GP10.
I've been playing with double dring in place of Philo/Pick recently and I like it in certain lanes. I think if you're not going double gold/10, you're probably best off just going double dring for early game strength.
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On August 06 2012 23:04 Chexx wrote:
had the same Idea a couple of days ago.
Promote and bloodboil = to push towers. Since it was kinda obvious I thought somebody already tried this.
Can you promote the plants and turrets from zyra and heimer?
No, Promote is SPECIFICALLY siege minions.
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On August 06 2012 23:28 Rathwirt wrote:
Yeah, Nunu is one of the few champs that Promote is actively a good idea on, as that BB'd minion dishes out the pain, feeds you money, and pushes that turret hard.
I don't know about using the quantifier 'good' here. Maybe 'not quite as bad' is better.
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