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schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
January 24 2012 11:55 GMT
#141
Just played my first ever game with AP TF, holy shit this guy is so fun to play. Haven't had that much fun with an AP mid ever.
firefistAce
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States137 Posts
January 27 2012 08:52 GMT
#142
lol he is fun to play, basically has 6 skills with his w. fun to gank, reveal hidden enemies, extremely versatile champ. i build him exactly the way it is in the reccomended items shop. may throw in a doran's ring for more suvivability.
Please excuse my English as I am an American on the internet.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 05 2012 17:04 GMT
#143
What's the jungle tf build?
liftlift > tsm
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 07 2012 18:17 GMT
#144
Sorry, I dont check this particular thread much, but since jungle TF was mentioned in the GD thread, I have appeared.

Current build: 8 aspeed 1 armpen red, armor yellows, mr/lvl blues, Armpen quints. 21-9-0. I THINK you can open boots, but I dont remember what I did the other day, and cloth 5 is safer if you are trying to do him for the first time.

order is w-e-w w>e>q, starting wolves-blue-wraiths- route.

The build I hit on that actually seems to scale decently well is wriggles-zerkers-pd-lw. Then just grab whatever else you feel you need.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
February 07 2012 19:00 GMT
#145
On February 08 2012 03:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
Sorry, I dont check this particular thread much, but since jungle TF was mentioned in the GD thread, I have appeared.

Current build: 8 aspeed 1 armpen red, armor yellows, mr/lvl blues, Armpen quints. 21-9-0. I THINK you can open boots, but I dont remember what I did the other day, and cloth 5 is safer if you are trying to do him for the first time.

order is w-e-w w>e>q, starting wolves-blue-wraiths- route.

The build I hit on that actually seems to scale decently well is wriggles-zerkers-pd-lw. Then just grab whatever else you feel you need.

Why do you take w(or e for that matter) over q? Wouldn't q help your clear speed the most? Especially at level 2: 3% atkspd/45 extra dmg vs 60 extra aoe damage.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
February 07 2012 19:24 GMT
#146
On February 08 2012 04:00 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 03:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
Sorry, I dont check this particular thread much, but since jungle TF was mentioned in the GD thread, I have appeared.

Current build: 8 aspeed 1 armpen red, armor yellows, mr/lvl blues, Armpen quints. 21-9-0. I THINK you can open boots, but I dont remember what I did the other day, and cloth 5 is safer if you are trying to do him for the first time.

order is w-e-w w>e>q, starting wolves-blue-wraiths- route.

The build I hit on that actually seems to scale decently well is wriggles-zerkers-pd-lw. Then just grab whatever else you feel you need.

Why do you take w(or e for that matter) over q? Wouldn't q help your clear speed the most? Especially at level 2: 3% atkspd/45 extra dmg vs 60 extra aoe damage.


Because you're building AD TF. His W scales off AD harder than it scales off AP. E increases attack speed. Q isn't going to help much because the AoE off red cards is big enough to hit the entire camp, it scales off AD, and W has a shorter CD.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 07 2012 19:29 GMT
#147
So how well does it actually work? I see Jungle TF on streams a lot, but usually in solo queue, so I'm not sure if it's a troll or something. I like the idea of a ranged AD jungle (that isn't Twitch), so I'm interested to try it out if it's viable.
It's your boy Guzma!
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 07 2012 19:31 GMT
#148
On February 08 2012 04:29 Requizen wrote:
So how well does it actually work? I see Jungle TF on streams a lot, but usually in solo queue, so I'm not sure if it's a troll or something. I like the idea of a ranged AD jungle (that isn't Twitch), so I'm interested to try it out if it's viable.

It has the T_D stamp of approval for almost viable.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
February 07 2012 20:12 GMT
#149
On February 08 2012 04:29 Requizen wrote:
So how well does it actually work? I see Jungle TF on streams a lot, but usually in solo queue, so I'm not sure if it's a troll or something. I like the idea of a ranged AD jungle (that isn't Twitch), so I'm interested to try it out if it's viable.


its alright, but i'd encourage you to try jungle Ezreal if you are looking for AD jungle, very surprisingly strong.
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
February 07 2012 20:25 GMT
#150
On February 08 2012 05:12 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 04:29 Requizen wrote:
So how well does it actually work? I see Jungle TF on streams a lot, but usually in solo queue, so I'm not sure if it's a troll or something. I like the idea of a ranged AD jungle (that isn't Twitch), so I'm interested to try it out if it's viable.


its alright, but i'd encourage you to try jungle Ezreal if you are looking for AD jungle, very surprisingly strong.

And how would you build that? You can post it into ezreal's thread if you want
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 07 2012 20:46 GMT
#151
On February 08 2012 05:12 sob3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 04:29 Requizen wrote:
So how well does it actually work? I see Jungle TF on streams a lot, but usually in solo queue, so I'm not sure if it's a troll or something. I like the idea of a ranged AD jungle (that isn't Twitch), so I'm interested to try it out if it's viable.


its alright, but i'd encourage you to try jungle Ezreal if you are looking for AD jungle, very surprisingly strong.

I've tried it. It works pretty well (ult from jungle too funny), but TF has dat stun and dat ult to make his ganks much scarier, imo. You can basically never be sure of when you're about to get gold carded from an unwarded bush, or so I would think.
It's your boy Guzma!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 07 2012 22:26 GMT
#152
On February 08 2012 03:17 Two_DoWn wrote:
Sorry, I dont check this particular thread much, but since jungle TF was mentioned in the GD thread, I have appeared.

Current build: 8 aspeed 1 armpen red, armor yellows, mr/lvl blues, Armpen quints. 21-9-0. I THINK you can open boots, but I dont remember what I did the other day, and cloth 5 is safer if you are trying to do him for the first time.

order is w-e-w w>e>q, starting wolves-blue-wraiths- route.

The build I hit on that actually seems to scale decently well is wriggles-zerkers-pd-lw. Then just grab whatever else you feel you need.

Why not AS quints + apen reds??? are numbers better for jungle tf the other way around?
liftlift > tsm
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
February 07 2012 22:29 GMT
#153
It's always better with arp quints and as red. Always
hi
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
February 07 2012 22:29 GMT
#154
AS/ArPen quints/reds have the same relative values so it doesn't matter which set you pick, just the values of attack speed and armor pen you end up with.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 23:00:04
February 07 2012 22:56 GMT
#155
WRONG THREAD, I'M A FUCKING MORON
It's your boy Guzma!
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
March 31 2012 04:04 GMT
#156
how good are lv2 ganks as Jungle TF?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
noggnoskill
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States97 Posts
April 04 2012 16:32 GMT
#157
I see some dudes that I forget the names of (long days zzzz) going boots of swiftness on AP TF. I think it's usually something like boots 3pot ->dcap ->boots of swiftness

Maybe they like doing it because currently all you do is rush for hat, and by the time you have it people have enough MR that Sorc shoes aren't quite as good. But I thought it was established forever ago that they just plain suck because the MS is negligable and you could potentially have better stats in that slot (tenacity or mpen).

Thoughts?
Never forget, JAYM 4/4/2012
iaeuy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-05 03:37:53
April 05 2012 01:59 GMT
#158
IMHO getting boots3 is pretty viable, though I wouldn't wait until after cap to get it (MS really important midgame) They're cheaper than sorcs and the move speed advantage can be pretty strong in lane. Also makes you slightly more mobile and gives you a "gap closer" because you can chase people down. It's also stronger late game because as you mentioned sorc boots get weaker and weaker while increased teamfight mobility gets more and more important.

It has never been established that boots3 plain suck, people use to get them all the time on ms dependent kiters like anivia and ashe. TF usually has a similar role in teamfights--stay in the back line and cc key targets while dealing as much damage as possible.

One high elo player that gets swifties on TF is FrozenBBq
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 05 2012 02:20 GMT
#159
VOWELS I AGREE
MindBreaker
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States574 Posts
April 05 2012 02:22 GMT
#160
So I started to play AD TF today went 21/8/8 bought zerker greaves PD BT rageblade ionic spark and frozen mallet I got huge dps and great survivability what do you think of this build?
Is it weird that I play most of my online games at work? And that it's a pizza place??
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